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   oldbeachbum | Oct 03, 2006 01:37am | #1

   Can we get Sysop to do a CD of Mike Smith/Adverse Conditions?  That would be a great start

   ...a bad day at the beach is better than a good day anywhere else... :)

   
   

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   Edited 10/2/2006 6:39 pm by oldbeachbum

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   MSA1 | Oct 07, 2006 05:38pm | #29

   Ya beat me to it. Another vote for adverse conditions on CD.

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   calvin | Oct 03, 2006 03:20am | #2

   JLC-Journal of Light Construction  Book Store.

   JLC Field Guide-Best Practices Manual

   http://www.jlconline.com/cgi-bin/jlconline.filereader?45219dfb001b586e27177f00000105a1+EN/userpages/37

   I've got vol 1 and 2.

   I think they are worthwhile references and the drawings are top notch.

   A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   Quittin' Time

    

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   newbuilder | Oct 03, 2006 03:42am | #3

   WOW!

   Those are exPENsive!!!!

    

    

   nb

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   brownbagg | Oct 03, 2006 03:45am | #4

   building construction illustrated.

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   CAGIV | Oct 03, 2006 03:53am | #5

   depends, what's knowledge worth that comes easily spelled out and illustrated??

   I'd say they're pretty cheap if you can find one item, trick, or technique, and apply it over a career.

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   Tim | Oct 06, 2006 11:36pm | #27

   "I'd say they're pretty cheap if you can find one item, trick, or technique, and apply it over a career."

   I would think finding one trick to use on one job, if it saved an hour of labor or rework, would pay for one volume. Having something handy to back up your good guesses? Priceless

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   CAGIV | Oct 07, 2006 08:18am | #28

   Having something that eliminates the need to guess...

   more priceless

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   calvin | Oct 03, 2006 04:09am | #6

   It's all relative.

   If you know the stuff, the drawings and background info are a nice educational tool to show the homowner.

   If you don't know half of the stuff, it's certainly worth at least the half you do know.

   And on the positive side-a direct writeoff for those of us in the bizness.

   Now, if you have the time and inclination-there's always right here-free of charge.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   Quittin' Time

    

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   andy_engel | Oct 03, 2006 04:51am | #9

   Maybe, but what's the value of a good idea? I own 'em both.

   (Disclaimer: I work for Hanley Wood, so you should take that under advisement if you consider the books?Andy

   "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

   "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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   CAGIV | Oct 03, 2006 05:43am | #10

   when did you go to work for the dark side? :)

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   andy_engel | Oct 05, 2006 06:33am | #15

   Last Friday.Andy

   "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

   "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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   CAGIV | Oct 05, 2006 06:03pm | #18

   Congrats, Good luck.

    

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   andy_engel | Oct 06, 2006 02:02am | #22

   Thanks.Andy

   "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

   "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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   Piffin | Oct 05, 2006 09:59pm | #21

   I just remebered I'm supposed to cut you a CD 

    

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   andy_engel | Oct 06, 2006 02:03am | #23

   Yes, you were. Your memory beats mine.Andy

   "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

   "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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   Piffin | Oct 06, 2006 03:54pm | #24

   you are on my weekenbd list 

    

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   Junkman001 | Oct 05, 2006 04:00pm | #16

   And worth every penny.

   MikeInsert initially amusing but ultimately annoying catch phrase here.

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   IMERC | Oct 05, 2006 04:10pm | #17

   try Architectural Graphic Standards..

   those two volumes are a bargain..... 

    

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   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   Piffin | Oct 05, 2006 09:46pm | #19

   Ignorance is an expense.Knowledge is an investment. 

    

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   user-54383 | Oct 03, 2006 09:03am | #12

   I like how the Spanish version is about 1/3 the length (pages) and cost. What's up with that?Eric

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   calvin | Oct 03, 2006 01:08pm | #13

   I have no idea why it would be shorter in pages, didn't do good in spanish.  Shoot them an email, be an interesting answer.

   edit:  I read the description-only a portion of the first volume.  More on framing to be printed later.

   A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   Quittin' Time

    

   Edited 10/3/2006 6:11 am ET by calvin

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   Piffin | Oct 05, 2006 09:56pm | #20

   maybe he should sign the email Erico Harpen~o 

    

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   user-54383 | Oct 06, 2006 06:05pm | #25

   >>>> maybe he should sign the email Erico Harpen~oI resemble that remark! (actually not). Just seemed odd that the Spanish version was so much shorter. Made me wonder that's all... until Calvin noted it's just the first installment in the series.Eric(o)

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   Piffin | Oct 06, 2006 06:35pm | #26

   I aplaude the publisher for adressing the issue and getting good inffo into the hands of our spanish speaking cousins. Knowing what they aree doing will only help the quality of the housing stock overall. I remember the issue of JLC and of Tools of the Trade a few years ago where they pledged to adress this problem.Besides, it has pictures! Even the french canadians can get some good out of it, LOL;) 

    

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   Griff | Oct 03, 2006 04:15am | #7

   Perhaps a bit elementary and not really in depth, but here's a link to an online site with short videos about various aspects of Best Practices in construction. Plus some other info as well:

   http://www.hgtvpro.com/hpro/home

   Griff
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   sledgehammer | Oct 03, 2006 04:35am | #8

   Having seen so many poorly built houses the book would no doubt be sold in the fiction section.

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   alrightythen | Oct 03, 2006 06:01am | #11

   yup..exactly like that :

   "Graphic Guide to frame construction : details for builders and designers"

   By Rob Thallon

   "Graphic Guide to Interior Details: for builders and designers"

   By Rob Thallon

    

   Both great books (Taunton press)...they don't have exactly everything but the are quite thurough

   EDIT: those JLC books look pretty good too a little more indepth. But check out the Taunton books they are worthwhile.

   
   

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   Edited 10/2/2006 11:07 pm ET by alrightythen

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   xosder11 | Oct 03, 2006 05:22pm | #14

   Architectural Graphic Standards for Residnetial Construction.

   http://www.amazon.com/Architectural-Graphic-Standards-Residential-Construction/dp/0471241091

   Pricy, but a very comprehensive manual. When I have a question, it's the first place I look.

   Second to that, I agree with BrownBag's nomination of Building Construction Illustrated

   Edit to add: I have never seen the JLC manuals, so I really can't comment, but I have heard good things.

   
   

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   Edited 10/3/2006 10:26 am ET by xosder11