Any one see that DIY Tvshow about a home inspector in NC looking at a SSeam Copper roof this AM?
I saw a horiz seam not locked, a total abortion of a chimney interface and they alluded to a “tar” fix that was done shoddily.
That and a Farked vent stack boot will allow leakage.
Just so y’all know, it ain’t like that.
The “inspector” alluded to The “high cost” of repairing leaks in a Cu roof, well yeah, when ya gotta fix what some “peel N stick” cowboy stuck on.
In the real world, a wire brush on a grinder, and 2 mins of soldering can fix almost anything and Yes, if it is a 12/12 it WILL be expensive, but final.
This house was in the Greenville, NC area..and I hope the roofer saw it on TV. I wish his sign was shown on TV. What a waste of copper and labour.
sorry, just venting and glad I was shown the light and taught right..
Grant, I love ya man. AFAIK, we ( Dale and I) have no call backs? Well, some gutter stuff, but that was gremlins I tell ya.
Anyone, thinking of the last(ing) roof for thier retirement days, oughtta think Cu, after all, it it is commodity on the exchange, buy now..15 yrs from now the scrap might bring double..if ya need a kidney. Try that with your PVC Jacuzzi plumbing.
Vent/rant over. Mebbe.
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And I thought that this was going to be about you making some CU rabbit ears for your new tv.
Shoot..I can't afford to pay attn after buyin the TV, much less get wabbit ears for it.!
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after all, it it is commodity on the exchange, buy now..15 yrs from now the scrap might bring double
Was just talking to a friend about copper prices. He was floored, literally. When he did his roof it was $1.37. I last paid $2.40.
Turned out that thousand lbs. I had surplus from my lumber shed was a pretty good investment. Shouldda bought more. Didn't think to take my copper scrap bin to sell when I bought scrap steel recently (at .12/lb it was a deal, they paid me .02/lb the week before). But looks like the copper scrap price has nowhere to go but up.
Sure hope I don't need a kidney soon. Friend's wife just had one installed in Korea, another good deal.
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Thievin bastids are dumb enough to hit Ele. SUB stations here for Cu. I guess some wizzend one knows what breaker to kill to deenergize the lines.
Heck, I got zapped changing out my Phone line..LOL
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There's been a lot of talk about copper thieves. I'm liking those 500+lb rolls better all the time. Except all Caterpillar keys are the same....
If you got the ring voltage, it got your attention.
Hmmmm... my copper-roofed buddy just left for the summer in Utah. What did you say scrap is bringing? Wonder if the neighbors would think anything of somebody driving off with a few truckloads from his place...
Forget that. You and Greenie know where the big jobs were. But you probably didn't leave any lightly attached, did you? IIRC, he had a little trouble with that once, prior to you. Now that I think about it, probably a large amount of work to strip a roof. Some of my cleats are toe-nailed into oak. LOL...
Nevermind.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
I have FIRM instructions to NOt leave any Cu in reach. We as we speak have it either nailed down or up on the lift outta reach.
All lift keys are like Cats I think..whoops.
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Thieves steal copper from church roof
May 28, 2006. 12:55 PM
MONTREAL (CP) — Skyrocketing metal prices have prompted a few thieves to turn to God for a little extra cash.
Thieves working under the cloak of darkness recently pried away sections of roofs, gutters and wiring made of copper from four Quebec City churches.
"It's audacious when you have to use a ladder of 15 or 20 feet to climb up and cut pieces of a roof," said Rev. Raymond Angers, who oversees two of the targeted churches.
One man stood lookout while two accomplices removed the 81-year-old metal from the St-Charles-de-Limoilou and St-Francois-d'Assise churches. Another church was also attacked, along with a former church that had been sold to a funeral home.
The thieves scattered with their bounty on their third consecutive night of robbery after onlookers cried out in horror before calling police.
High copper prices may have netted the men a few hundred dollars. But the repairs will cost between $35,000 and $50,000, said Angers.
By removing the roofs and flashing off ancillary buildings adjacent to the churches, the thieves exposed rotting wood that also has to be replaced.
"These people have no respect," Angers said in an interview, noting insurance deductibles of $2,500 will have to be paid for each of his two churches.
An official with the Assembly of Quebec Catholic Bishops called the thefts rare, isolated cases.
"We're not paranoid because of a recent case like that," Germain Tremblay said in Montreal.
"If we see the start of an epidemic of stolen religious objects, we would consider what steps to take. But for the moment there's been no special advice given to parishes."
Even though the thieves targeted non-sacred metal surfaces, the robberies were troubling to the faithful who maintain a special connection with their church, Tremblay said.
"So when something like this happens they feel violated. It touches people and hurts them."
The Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops said it hasn't received any similar reports of theft in the rest of the country.
But the situation isn't unique to Quebec.
Ohio's oldest Russian Orthodox church was stripped of some of its copper sheathing last fall, prompting its caretaker to wonder: "Who could steal from God?"
Cleveland police said thieves pilfered the covering of a half-dome that sits at the four corners of the St. Theodosius Russian Orthodox Cathedral, which appeared in the award-winning film The Deer Hunter.
While robbing a church is unexpected, the theft of metal has long been a problem, said Len Shaw, executive director of the Canadian Association of Recycling Industries.
"It's a bit crazy at the moment," he said, noting record prices for steel and non-ferrous metals such as nickel, copper and aluminum.
"If you show up with a whole roof from a church, somebody should be asking questions."
Much of the material sold to scrappers, however, contains no markings or manufacturers' logo to suggest it was stolen.
"Our guys in the industry have a double whammy because we actually get people jumping the fences and stealing from our members in the scrapyards and then they try to sell it to somebody else," said Shaw.
When a large cache of metal is stolen, it's usually dumped into a container and shipped offshore, he said.
The burgeoning economies of China, India and Asia have developed an unquenchable thirst for scrap metal used to produce consumer goods.
The $85-billion US global scrap metal trade has tripled since 2003. Copper alone has risen to about $3.71 US per pound.
Police across the country are scrambling to combat this growing crime.
Det.-Const. George Gallant of the Hamilton Police Services said the city's metal-theft problem has worsened in the last five months as metal prices have surged.
Emboldened thieves have even entered new subdivisions and stripped the unfinished homes of their copper piping.
The lure of the easy dollar will likely continue to be enticing for criminals, Gallant said.
"If the price of metal stays high, I don't foresee it going away."
In Vancouver, thieves have made off with aluminum ladders, soccer goals and park light fixtures. In Montreal, manhole covers have disappeared.
Hydro and cable companies have seen their wiring disappear while metal giants Alcan and Dofasco have also been robbed.
11:51ET 28-05-06
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Yikes!
You spending your nights with a shotgun at hand?PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
>>>>>>>But looks like the copper scrap price has nowhere to go but up.#2 scrap was bring $2.79/lb last week. I'm paying about twice that plus tax plus fuel surcharge in bulk.
Can I get that Little Debbie snack cracker out from under the heel of your pointy boot?..
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Hmmm.... I've got maybe 100 lbs of scrap copper. Dropped off 3000 lbs of ferrous a couple of weeks ago, mostly engines. A lot more more for the copper.
Kinda scary. Slate's looking better all the time, not that I'll likely roof anything in the near future. Had a friend ask if I'd help him (or him help me) copper his and his mother's houses. Looking unlikely. He actually asked if I'd want more than $2.40 for my unused copper rolls.
Might have to start locking the gate at the bottom of my driveway. Pretty sad.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
As part of my property management job, I used to look after an old manufacturing building which had been abandoned. It was 2 blocks from a high school, and I spent my time chasing out 3 problems:
Kids havig sex...
kids smoking pot...
kids stealing copper!
There was still the huge electrical switchgear that had powered the building, and people would go in there with somes decent tools and make-off real well. We're talking solid copper plates 1/2" thick X 6" wide X 24" long. They'd stack up a backpack-full in no time.
This was in the early 90's, but I'm sure they did well for themselves, even at those low prices.
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