I’m wondering if some of you can give me a reality check on the cost of a plumbing rough-in. Job is a medium sized master bath in an addition. Single story, walls are open, no exterior door in the addition so you go through the house. Single vanity sink, toilet, tub/shower. Copper supply, 1/2″ to everything, tie-ins are underfloor close to the new bath. ABS drains in the crawl space, main is nearby but access is fairly difficult (all tools and materials have to be dragged a ways through some tight spots to the work area, which is too low to sit up in).
If you sub this, can you throw a number at it? If you do it yourself, about how many hours? Thanks!
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This sounds eerily similar in every detail to a job I just completed. Two large union plumbing houses gave me bids of around $5000. I kept looking and got a smaller non-union shop to do it for $3000.
That's rough-in only: no fixtures no trim out - just roughed in and ready to cover the walls.
There are so many variables and unique issues in each job that my experience could be totally irrelevant.
Speaking of plumbing quotes......
I needed to get quotes on 2 back to back baths I was re-doing. The rooms were gutted. Client provided all the fixtures. Job was open below in garage. So: new waste to existing cast iron stack ingarage, 3 feet of run to the stack. New copper to three sinks, largely in their original position, and a new supply set up for a tub/shower. Job to include required rough and final install materials and labor. An existing shower stall was deemed ok except for the drain.
So, in Fairfield County, CT, (just outside NYC) three firms provided quotes, with start dates in 7-14 days. The quotes were: $1200, $6500 ($4500) and $10,500.
The middle quote included reworking the CI stack, aor for 2K less, leaving it alone. The cheapre quote said it was just fine, and he'd do it if i wanted but thought leaving it was OK, and the last quote would only take the job if it included ripping it out and replacing it with new CI.
So clearly the last firm wanted the job only if it was big enough. This was a situation where the client couldn't see any reasonable way to even do the standard "Take the middle" action! Hard to argue as even the middle quote was nearly 4 times the low quote!Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
I am so staying in the midwest. I can't tell you what that would cost here, but I can tell you what this just did:
2nd floor bath, remodel. Plumber: moved the toilet about 6 feet away from its starting position, moved the sink drain and lines about a foot, flipped the tub around so the shower valves were on the other side, provided a toilet (Kohler) valve set (Moen) and tub/surround (Mustee). Work was on a 2nd floor in an old house, all the rough in in the floor was done upside down so the ceiling below didn't come out. $2200.
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I'm subbing one of those out right now. Jax, FL. Off grade, crawl about 2' clearance, distance from access to sink, commode, shower about 14'. Tie-ins about 20-25' away. waste run to tie-in about 30'. CPVC for the supply and schedule 40 PVC for the DWV.
Quote from one sub, over the phone, sight unseen: $2,500 - $3,500.
Quote from second sub who crawled under and looked at the plans: $3,500. This is for total job from rough to top out and includes standard fixtures and the pan. Noted Christmas tree waste section at tie-in might need to be replumbed to fit everything in and said that might add $200-$300 more.
i am thinking 4-5 days for 1 man plus materials, very high degree of difficulty with bad access. it may go much quicker, and i wouldn't want it for less than $3000 for rough in. i'm in sonoma county if you want me to come take a look? where will the vent go for drain? hopefully there is an interior wall that will accomodate. can the subfloor be taken up to access crawl space? is there a return for hot water/recirculation system? wanna run a radiant floor while we're in there?
All i can say is when I do a bath i use the same plumber and he almost allways charges the same price 3500.00 unless he needs to bring new lines from basement or it is more work like whirlpooltub/shower, toilet, sink and stand up shower 4pcs then it 4500.00 and he works about 25 to 30 hrs total . pritty good money and he supplys copper pipe and drainsand shut offs under sink /feeds etc his materials arround 300.00 I just did my 2nd floor bath and drains copper pipe from basement to bath took about 15 hrs and cost est rough in supplys cost about 275.00 and im not a plumber wasnt that hard. corner whirlpool tub for two ,sink and flush.have about another 2 weeks of work to be done its going to be fun when its done.
Dogboy good luck
Thanks to all. Sounds like approx. $1000 per fixture if not more in some cases.