Anyone else here have a not so good experience with CPO?
I’m gettin cranky over my experience with them…………
Coupla months ago they had a $25.00 rebate thing going; ordered a CPO Trac Rac Stand.
Turned into a big cuddlefik….guy you placed the order with is new, yada.yada; we are all out but we MAY get some more in from Bosch if you wait.
OK. I’m not sure why they advertise items online that are NOT available but…….I wait, and wait, and wait some more.
Must have been six weeks later, they have a 10% off sale.
So, I go for it. I want the stand, a new one and the 4410 CPO. Call my buddy Alex and make a sweet deal considering I’m still waiting for the CPO Trac Rac…………..uh, oh…Trac Rac is in stock will ship, but we are out of CPO 4410’s you’ have to WAIT.
Got the stand but still not the saw after FOUR WEEKS WAITING!!
Oh, they let me know that I can cancel my order, which means renegotiating the “deal”. or I can buy a NEW 4410L or………………….meanwhile they have a charge on my AMEX for the whole deal.
I’m NOT happy!!!
Anyone else experience this from CPO?
Eric
( not happy with cpo Bosch) ;(
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You could have built the Gary Katz one and been way happier.:) Just kidding. I haven't dealt with them but you are way more patient then I am. Dump them on principal.
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
You could have built the Gary Katz one and been way happier.:)
I DO have the plans here..............;)[email protected]
Well that's handy now isn't it? :)
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
I agree with Gunner. Sounds like your getting jerked around.... whether it's on purpose or not, who knows? But regardless... you're getting jerked. Nothing I hate worse than getting jerked around. I also hate it when companies charge my card and then let me know that there's a huge wait or delay or something. That's crap.
That's crap.
I always like to get a gut check on these things.
I went 3 rounds with them over waiting on the Trac Rac early on. You think I would have learned.
I read much about them here, never bad. Sometimes I think I have a black cloud over me when it comes to certain thing. I rarely seem to receive good customer service.
Can you spell bait and switch?
Eric[email protected]
One word of advice about tool etc. recommendations here. There tends to be a bandwagon effect in regards to some stuff. People that have never even owned them or dealt with the vendor will brag them up based on what one or two people say. They just take their word for it and don;t even know what they are talking about.
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
When I'm done here CPO will be trash. I mentioned FHB and the forum to my sales person and they were all excited that they found a new place to advertize.
My opinion at the moment is they suck.
The Bosch plant has no ETA on when this is going to be available………if you do not want to wait any longer, you may feel free to cancel this item at any time. Its very hard for Bosch to determine when this will be available, for they cannot sell a “recon†item unless someone returns one for them to “reconditionâ€â€¦..it appears no one is returning them for them to recondition. <!----><!----><!---->
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I can feel your pain.On the other hand, I orderd a reman impact driver, when it arrive the interior dividers were all broke loose. The exterior packaging looked fine, I can't figure out how the insides got mushed like they did.Called CPO, explained what happened, and they overnighted a replacement, and sent a pickup ticket for the other.I haven't purchased that much from them...but given their response I'll give them consideration on the next purchase.Hang in there...Rip
Eric, I think you are being overly harsh. I have bought several reconditioned tools from CPO with never a problem.I just looked up the 4410L CSMS you mentioned on CPO and it says clearly in red letters, "Call or Email for Availability". That means they don't have any right now. In-stock items say "Availability: Ready to Ship". If they ain't got it, they can't ship it. How can you blame CPO Bosch for the fact that people aren't returning the best CSMS on the market, leaving them with none to sell?Now that you have the saw, check out the folding hood that Gary Katz uses. Called Chopshop from FastCap in Bellingham, Wash. 888-4463-3748I just got one at the JLC show in Long Beach. The thing hooks into the vice ports on your saw and extends far enough on both sides to catch sawdust and chips at any miter angle. Folds up like a baby buggy hood. Claims to catch 80% of sawdust, so you can work inside without messing up the whole place. It sure seemed to be working for Gary Katz at his crown molding clinics at the show.
Edited 5/20/2007 1:44 am ET by brucet99
And to ALL
Perhaps I was a bit impatient...............but remember, my initial experience with CPO began when I placed an order for, and then received confirmation for a CPO Trac Rac only to be told several days after the fact that the clerk who had processed my order was "new" and had mistakenly processed my oder when no items were in stock.
I told them I would gladly accept a new stand rather than the CPO in order that they fulfill their obligation to me, which at that point was to deliver the product for which I had allready paid.
They told me that there was no way they could do that. I was annoyed off the bat.If I make a mistake in an estimate for a client, I can't expect the client to suffer for it; it is my problem to fix, to keep the client relationship whole.
I was told that the CPO stands shold be coming in soon, maybe one day or several weeks. Fine I says.
Three weeks later, still no stand. Now I am very dissapointed. This after several calls and emails.
I get a sale flyer from CPO in my email for 10% off CPO tools. I put together and order for the new Trac Rac and a CPO 4410, for what I want to pay. I talk to my guy Alex, and after leaving me hanging on hold for 20 minutes he returns with an affirmative on my order.
As he begins to process it he realizes that the last CPO 4410 just went out the door. So he gingerly suggests that I should wait again, which I agree to. Same promise; maybe tommorrow, maybe several weeks. We sell a lot of them he tells me.
Well, again almost three weeks go by and nothing. I did get the Trac Rac, but no saw yet. So I drop them a friendly email to see what's up. Still waiting. Meanwhile Amazon has a sweet deal going with a promo for a brand new one for less than the CPO.
I call up CPO and start renegotiating my deal that they reassured me I could cancel anytime. They also refused by email to send me a new one, even though THEY had a promo going that had the new price VERY close to the CPO price that I paid.
I get throught to Alex and he looks me up. Nothing in he says. Oh wait, we do have a couple of 4410L's. Will you take one with a laser? Sure I said, and he tells me it will ship out to me in three days.
Sure enough I had it in three days, it's brand new and I'm finally happy.
The real kick in the #### of this is that the 4410L is just a 4410 with a Laser Blade washer thrown in the box. So they had my saw there all that time! All they had to do was open one and take out the stupid package or offer it to me for free! DUH!
It's all about customer service. Don't raise expectations or promise something you cannot or are not willing to deliver.
The End.[email protected]
ya, that's true. Gunner even likes that wimpy goodfornothin' POS 12v panasonic drill.
snork*The very simplicity and nakedness of man's life in the primitive ages imply this advantage, at least, that they left him still but a sojourner in nature. When he was refreshed with food and sleep, he contemplated his journey again. He dwelt, as it were, in a tent in this world, and was either threading the valleys, or crossing the plains, or climbing the mountain-tops. But lo! men have become the tools of their tools.-Thoreau's Walden
I knew you were gonna pipe in. :) I didn't jump on a bandwagon and tell you that was the greatest drill ever. I found a good deal on Amazon and passed it along. I still have mine and use it. Not a bad little drill for what it is.
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
Edited 5/11/2007 8:28 pm ET by Gunner
gotta admit for the money you could use it as a hammer and not get hurt. ;o)
be but ya know, if I'd added the cost of that panasonic and the bosch 9.6 lith pocketdriver I could have been close to the price of a quality drill.The very simplicity and nakedness of man's life in the primitive ages imply this advantage, at least, that they left him still but a sojourner in nature. When he was refreshed with food and sleep, he contemplated his journey again. He dwelt, as it were, in a tent in this world, and was either threading the valleys, or crossing the plains, or climbing the mountain-tops. But lo! men have become the tools of their tools.-Thoreau's Walden
What you don't like the pocket driver either?
Who dares, wins.
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Nah, the rpms are too slow. Would be nice for building cabinets and the like tho' that need a gentler touch.
But as for the use as a drill the quick release hex driver head means an additional purchase of hexdriver drills or that hexhead/drill adapter you stick in the end of it which means another purchase. I guess that would work ok for occasional household use to hang a picture or that sort of thing.
I suppose that means they have their place and they fill a niche market but I'm curious about that pocket lith impact driver.
In hindsight I'm thinking I should have just went and bought a set of batteries for my old Bosch14.4 and been done with it instead of having the fun of ordering new tools.
be but then again for a tad more you can get the same as new drill kit and have the fun of it coming in the mail. oh what to do what to do
The man who independently plucked the fruits when he was hungry is become a farmer; and he who stood under a tree for shelter, a housekeeper. We now no longer camp as for a night, but have settled down on earth and forgotten heaven. -Thoreau's Walden
Edited 5/12/2007 9:29 am ET by rez
Ahh. There's the problem. I don't think they market it as a drill. Only a pocket driver. I'd never think to use it as a drill. Like you said way too slow.
I use mine as a screw gun and love the heck out of it. It is good for assembling cabinets and the like as you say. I do a lot of control wiring and assembly of electrical stuff and I use it a lot for that. Saves on my arthritic hands for sure. But that's all it is, is a screw gun.
I think that's the problem with the Panasonic drill. It's only a small light duty drill. Not intended to be anything else. That's all I use it for and I'm happy.
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
ya, if only the batteries would have held a charge.
be snorked*The man who independently plucked the fruits when he was hungry is become a farmer; and he who stood under a tree for shelter, a housekeeper. We now no longer camp as for a night, but have settled down on earth and forgotten heaven. -Thoreau's Walden
Snorkel this. Lover :)
Who dares, wins.
http://thewoodwhisperer.com/
I don't have any experience with them Eric so I really can't comment directly. Just on the getting jerked around part. I recently went around the horn with Caterpillar for FOUR months over $500. I write a check to them every single month for $1765.62..... for the last three years and the next two. When I have service done they leave a bill right on the seat. When they need something from me they leave a message on the office phone as well as my cell phone. But when it's time for them to pay me what's rightfully mine I gotta talk my way up the ladder, get transferred to voicemails, wait for return calls that never come, and then after four months of this, finally act like a total azzhole just to get someone's attention. All over $500 from a multi-billion dollar company. Bad customer service can be very frustrating.View Image
All over $500 from a multi-billion dollar company. Bad customer service can be very frustrating.
I've always figured that's how they got there, some how, in some perverted way.
Like they're gonna fold up and lock the doors over $500.00.
And I'll bet you'll never buy another, or say anything good about CAT again.[email protected]
It's just discouraging when you realize what you're up against. I spend $89,000 with a company and to them I am small potatoes. That's a preposterous amount of money to me, but to them I'm a kid buying a stick of gum in a convenience store. They probably couldn't care less if I ever buy another machine from them or if I'm happy with the one I've got.
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Like I said about a big tool company I was having trouble with when people said I was a no body to them...I said CRAPSMAN used to be CRAFTSMAN so never say never. The bigger they are the harder they can fall and they just think we'll go away quietly. I complained all over the net and was eventually compensated by them literally five fold.
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I had read in a business magazine ( do not remember which one ) that the average net worth of a CAT dealer was 75 million dollars . Seems they have a nice margin to work with , when you say you are small potatoes you are right . With that much gravy flowing you would think $500 would be an easy fix .
I also hate it when companies charge my card and then let me know that there's a huge wait or delay or something. That's crap.
I'll drink to that!
Man I thought it was just me!
I have run into that very situation 5 times in the last 2 months. Special order from Lowe's, walk behind mower from local dealer, wide screen TV from Tweeter, machine parts from Grizly..........
Then you waste huge amounts of your time chasing down stuff you should have already!
The latest..........................I can't understand why they keep offering to let me cancel the order. I WANT the saw! They advertised it as available and then when you place the order, it's a different story. My luck, it will come in and arrive here beat to crap.
In todays email...............
Im not trying to upset you, you asked for when your item is available, and this I do not know. We do sell this item, but it is out of stock, and our shipment we ordered for more stock, has been on a “backorder statusâ€. When we call the manufacturer for an ETA, they tell us “they do not have an ETA, and do not know when our order will be ready for shipmentâ€.
Im trying to serve you and to make you happy by passing along this info, and if you feel you don’t want to wait any longer, you can feel free to cancel this item of the order. If you have good relations with Alex, you may feel free to call him, and express your thoughts and work it out with him. But your email I received, you were asking for info about the status of your order, which I have given you.
Bryan Kornaker
Sales Specialist
http://www.cpobosch.com
t:626-583-5005
f:626-585-3555
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CPO Bosch Order Status Update
You guys are jerking me around. I'm getting a little bit pissed off here....AGAIN. Please talk to Alex to obtain my history with CPO Bosch.
You advertise items that are not available, then offer to cancel or purchase a like item. In my state that is known as bait and switch.
Please advise. This is NOT good customer relations.
Eric Paulson
914-953-5306
[email protected]
As much as you want it.... I don't think you're going to get any satisfaction out of 'em Eric. They don't have what you want. It totally sucks that you wasted all this time waiting for a saw that isn't/wasn't coming but it's time to find another vendor if you want that saw any time soon... or at least with a guaranteed delivery date. The CPO well has run dry for you..... I think you've gotten all you're gonna get out of 'em. Know when to hold 'em..... know when to fold 'em.View Image
Think your right. Time to call The Tool Nut and do it local like I should have.
I still wanna bust their balls good though.
I can't stand sucky customer service. Don't offer to sell me something you cannot deliver on.[email protected]
You're home awfully early again!!
You sure you're running a framing crew? :)[email protected]
We wrapped up a job at 5:30 last night. Next foundation is ready Monday am. Everybody gets a nice long weekend before the next push. I used the day to bid plans and then get my Jeep some insurance, a registration, and a sticker. Besides it poured most of the morning.
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Finish on Friday and start the next one on Monday.
I like that!
Get the top off that Jeep and have some fun. Gonna be a nice w/e I hope.
Eric
still looking at reconditioned tools.................[email protected]
Yeah, me too (the schedule thing). I love having a chance to regroup between jobs. It bugs me when I don't have a weekend in between jobs to get my sh1t back together. I like to start each job fresh if I can.... clean truck, clean and stocked trailer, tools fixed etc. I function better that way.
It also lets me get any final invoices out while the job is still fresh in my head instead of piecing my notes back together a week or so later. Another nice thing is it gives me a chance to get my head around the drawings for the next job before we start it.... I usually haven't even opened 'em up since bidding...... nothing worse than getting to a job and feeling like, "ok... now what are making for ya?"
I don't even bother trying to deliberately schedule things to work out like this... but it sure is nice when it happens that way. View Image
What's a schedule? LOL! ;)[email protected]
What's a schedule? LOL! ;)
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If they charged your card and did not ship it pull the charge from the CC.
Thats just plan Theft. Well it's only been a year but we still have it back ordered. Yea right.
call them up on their 800 # and ask for Leigh....she makes things happen...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
LOL!
I was just calling them when...................[email protected]
Don't tell anyone but Marty really owns the Bosch Company!!
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Well then, I owe him a kick in the arse!
After MUCH MORE ado, CPO offered me the 4410L as a replacement for my order of the 4410.
We have THOSE in stock! Well, why didn't you tell me?
They are NOT strong on communication at CPO Bosch,
Eric[email protected]
They're just people like anyone else...and one of the reasons you probably decided to use them was because of the reputation you heard about. Unfortunately you had one of the bad experiences that happens on occasion...it happens..and its a bummer.
Hey...as long as tomorrow comes you're fine ....FWTW : )
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I have been getting a bit complacement... (that the right word and spellin'?)
fire away...did you get a hold of Liegh??Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Liegh is in customer service.
I've dealt with Alex on my sales; been swapping emails with Bryan Kornaker just by default as that is where my initial complaint were directed.
I called Alex last night after being unable to connect with Byran. I don't know if the stars were in alignment or it was the fact that I mentioned Liegh to him, but I finally got some satisfaction; as long as the saw arrives in satisfactory condition.
Thanks,
Eric[email protected]
Leigh makes things happen...glad things are looking up...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I've gotten a couple of reconed things from CPO. Got an 18V Bosch kit with a Brute drill. I already had one, and the new one sounded a little funny. Called customer service about it, and I must have gotten Leigh, cause she said I'd see a new one tomorrow...and I did<G>They were trusting enough to simply overnight a new drill, and asked me to put the defective in the box and send it back post paid, and at my convenience.Sorry to hear of your trial, but I think they're one of the best internet-order companies I deal with. Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
real silky voice???
great sense of humor???
excellent pro customer attitude???
looks way better than you imagine from her voice???that's Leigh...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Now I know why you're always on the phone to Bosch...
besides owning the company, I mean..._______________________________________________________________
"The artist is not a person endowed with free will who seeks his own ends, but one who allows art to realize its purposes through him. As a human being he may have moods and a will and personal aims, but as an artist he is "man" in a higher sense - he is "collective man," a vehicle and moulder of the unconscious psychic life of mankind." - Carl Jung
Ex-wife?<G> Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
Her...
CPO Bosch toys...
Ex...The Ex would never have happened...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
They were trusting enough to simply overnight a new drill, and asked me to put the defective in the box and send it back post paid, and at my convenience.
I've dealt with only a few companies like that, but when I do; it's a pleasure. AND, I make sure to send as much business their way whnever I can.
Eric[email protected]
I am looking at the 4410 as well
So I found this thread, and checked CPO.
I see where they have listed FR 4410's (2) one with laser and one without.
They have a new w/laser as well.
It's only a $30 difference. Why not just buy new?????-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it"
Their pricing is always changing.
When I looked the difference was about 50 bucks.
I got a new Trac Rac Stand and the CPO 4410L for $620.00 delivered.
The saw was brand new, never been used as much as I can tell.
I think I got a sweet deal and the warrantee is the same.
Just took a bit more to get there than I had anticipated.
Eric
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Oh, and be warned, the saw IS a bit of a beast weight wise.
Not like tossing my od Dewalt 705 around.[email protected]
it's like 52# I think I read-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it"
CPO site says 55#'s.
I'm getting old, close to that in age. Hoisting that thing on to the Trac Rac last nite felt like I was lifting a building!
Of course weighing in at 144 doesn't help!
You have to figure out where to positon the table and slide in order to make it balance and easier to lift.
If you decide to order it, call Alex direct @ 626-583-5015.
He's a good guy, Tell him I sent you and squeeze him for all it's worth.
Let me know how you make out.
Eric[email protected]
Call your cc company and get it straightened out. They can't bill you until they ship the item.
Cut loose with the 30 difference and stop whining. You spent well over 30 bucks in time on line!
Why didn't you get the real thing..the "saw helper" (G)
al
I flamed you (a bit) but after checking your profile and your birth date; I decided you deserved more respect than that.
Be careful about ever putting a piece of bowed stock the wrong way against that long fence.
And it was way more than $30.00 at stake both in $ and principle.
I'm sure you understand.
Eric[email protected]
Heat is not knew to me.
I've purchased many tools from the cpo's, never had a problem.
The first thing that I do when I get a new item is to read everything in print before it gets unpacked. (bowed stock)
The saw helper has no plastic joints or pined together any where in it's construction.
Price should not be THE deciding factor in a tool purchase if it's for a means to making a living.
Tools are self supporting, make you efficient and produce a quality product .
If A doesn't have what I need I go to B or C, it's A's loss, I don't make A bashing my new career.
al
PS you name it I probably have one or more.
Hey al..nice pic..and nice to meet ya. I'm just accross the pond from you and I can see you smiling from here...lol. Welcome to BT town dude.
andy
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Hi Andy,
Nice to meet you also. Sorry for the delay in posting. I had a New England senior PGA qualifier this morning, then mowed my neighbors and my lawns. My neighbor was operated on Thursday, disc fusion..serious stuff. He's about your age
Are you a boater?
al
my helper... retired also
al
..Boater...nahhh...had a boat once and kept it in Cold Spring Harbor. Was too much of a hassle and too costly so I sold it...plus I don't even know how to fish so whats the point? It was GREAT when I was drinking!! But I don't drink anymore...I liked it way too much. I think besides sitting here all I do is build stuff. I get too obsorbed in these houses I do. I sort of like being self contained.I rarely go anywhere...I pretty like having all I need right here... You can check some of this house out in my website below.
If yer ever around these parts give me a shout...I used to use up gas taking my boat across the pond to your neck of the woods.
Yeh,,,56...I'm catchin' up to ya dude.
As they say..."its all good" : )
PS...whos the helper : )
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
That's a Gal from New Hide Park I married 50 years ago(G)
We are doing a renovation on the old homestead for our new daughter in-law.
I fish I golf I make sawdust.
al
New Hyde Park huh? Not far from Cold Spring Harbor,,,been through there many a time.
Nice catch...the fish too...lol.
anytime you feel like floatin' that rig up to CSH gimmie a shout.
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
104#Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
That's what it felt like!
Be a Bosch beast![email protected]
quit trying to pick it up with the stand and the accessories...won't be 104# anymore...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I just wrote your partner Robert today asking him when the new job site table saws will be out...he said he didn't know...to ask you.
"Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit." Abbie Hoffman
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
snort...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
How much was the original deal for the saw$
Amazon has it shipped for like 5 but 50 back till may 14.
Eric,
I just made an order from CPO Bosch (recon. drill) and it arrived very timely and was the best deal going.
Was going to order a recon. jigsaw as well but they said upfront very clearly in an email that they couldn't guarantee when they would get more in, as they had sold out, and I should check back for availability in a month. The website actually prompted me to check for availability on the jigsaw and would not let me order it.
(bought the jigsaw in the end new locally)
Sorry to hear that your experience has been frustrating.
Matt
I bought a 4410 from them about a month ago. Arrived w/o a hitch. They had some 10% promo going that I jumped on. I wanted the 4410L but they were out of stock and I didn't want to miss the 10% off deal..
Also bought a router from them last year w/o problems.
Good luck,
John
J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.
Indianapolis, In.
So did you buy the reconditioned one or new.
My issue ia with the recon. They offer it for sale even though it is not in stock.
In all fairness, they did tell me it was out of stock when I placed the order. But this was after their original screw up when I ordered the recon Trac rac, they told me was in stock and being shipped.
Never happened. So I had to go back in and do some negotiating. I'm still waiting on the recon 4410 going on three weeks now.
I'm just dissapointed is all. I had hoped for much better.
I sent them a counter offer this morning.
I can get the 4410L for $450.00 shipped from Amazon right now.[email protected]
I bought recon. The 10% off deal was only for recon. I wanted the 4410L but settled for the 4410. I figured if I hadn't had a laser until now, I could do without it. And the sales rep I spoke to could not tell me when a 4410L might come in.
I think if you can afford to wait, they will come through.John
J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.
Indianapolis, In.