I just signed the contract and took a deposit today, so it’s official. I’ll be doing a Craftsman style room addition on a large, beautiful Greene and Greene style home.
The addition itself is small – only about 250 sq. ft. A bedroom and a bathroom, with an attached patio. But the house, and the addition, have a lot of expensive detailing. Not over the top, but definitely not a tract home.
This is a great neighborhood for me to be working in, and this is an exciting project for me. Its small in size, but a step up in the type of projects I’ve gotten in the past. Years ago, when I was lean and green and fulla beans, I worked on projects like this all the time. Custom, expensive, very picky clients. But since going on my own almost 20 years ago, I’ve gotten mainly small, mundane projects.
So now I have a small project with style, and its a style I love: Greene and Greene. The client saw my website, and noticed I have a page on Greene and Greene, and apparently that’s what sold him – or at least it didn’t hurt, anyway!
Here’s a picture of the house.
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The room addition is a bedroom enlargement with an attached handicap accessible bath. A tragic accident left my client's son, a young man about to enter the university with a 4.0 grade average, confined to a wheelchair, and semi-comatose (apparently there are several gradations of coma).
He is hospitalized during the week, but comes home on weekends. This will be his 'bachelor pad', in the hopes he will recover enough to use it alone someday. For now, he is assisted at all times, including being turned over in bed every two hours.
So I want this project to be a success for him, as well as for me, and my clients (his parents).
This fence will come out, and this is where the room will be added. The gates are slated to be re-used. Milkbones to anyone who can tell me the gate design.
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I'll be seeking advice as I go. I'm planning on doing most or all of the carpentry myself, and maybe the drywall too. I don't have anything at all going on, besides this project. We signed a contract tonight, but still have to have some of the changes drawn up, and then submit the plans for permitting. <!----><!----><!---->
The architect now works at the county office where permits are issued (head of the engineering department), so maybe he can grease the skids on this one. He did say that by keeping it under 300 sq. ft. the county is much more lenient on engineering requirements.<!----><!---->
This is the carport, and essentially I'm duplicating this roof, right behind this one, but mine will have a building under part of it, and part of it will be patio, very much like this carport.<!----><!---->
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One of my first questions is concerning these false rafter tails. Do I have to go back up into the roof twice the distance of the overhang with the false tails? This is how I used to do these, but curious to know if the current wisdom is any different. There is no detail on these in the plans.
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The existing front door (I'll be soing something similar, with a 3'0" door instead of 3'6", like this one). The colored glass block tiles are imported from Italy.
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Glad you picked up a nice job.
I use the actual rafter, sanded, primed and painted.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
I use the actual rafter, sanded, primed and painted.
The actual rafters are 2x8, so they wouldn't match the exposed 4x8 rafter tails on the rest of the house.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Nice project Huck. Do well. Do you think the 36" door is wide enough for wheelchair and other 'hospital' access?
I took a 44" door and frame out of an adult home for my outside basement entrance bottom door, (Bilco or such to be installed at grade).The 36" door may be best for scale with the 250 ft2 addition, but the Archi may want to rethink it for the client's needs. Wider is better here.Please keep us posted.Thanks to Bill Hartmann for the Roycrofters links. I enjoyed them. Bart
Good point on the door. At this point its looking like the cost may be the same - if so, I'll vote for the wider door also. At 4k its a chunk of change, 'tho.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
This will be a good job for you. Have you finished the murals? You did a great job on those.How were the rafter tails done 2-3 years ago when the house was built?Chuck S
live, work, build, ...better with wood
Thanks. The final mural is incomplete, but doesn't look too bad at this stage:
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Its on hold until I get a break in my schedule.
As far as the existing rafter tails - I'll have to go in the attic and check but the H.O. says they are real 4x8 rafters. The archy drew the addition with false tails (however, he drew the ridge as a true 4x14 the full length - for no discernable reason!).View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I ran your suggestion about the door by the H.O., told him his some would probably like the wider door, if the cost isn't too different. Turns out the 3' door is gonna be about 3400, the 3'6" about 3700. The 6'8" version is only about 1400, so its a big leap up to go to a "custom" size.
I think he liked the suggestion, and will go with the bigger door. Thanks for that one.
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OK, got out today and did a little work setting up a temporary fence. This is the first time I've been totally solo for awhile, since my helper left recently.
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I too am a huge fan of G and G. I saw your blog page, and would like to know the names of the colors making up the background? I am currently trying to decide on a color for the trim on my bungalow, and they inspired me...
Sorry I'm so slow in getting back to ya - only to say, I have no idea. Print it up and take it to the paint store! =)
edited to add: it might be Greene and Greene Green
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Edited 9/2/2008 9:50 pm by Huck
So I finally got the plans back from the archie, with the changes we asked for. Haven't looked at them yet. If they're good, I'll take 'em in for permitting tomorrow.
Meanwhile, I've been working on my temporary fence. I had some money in the budget for a chain link rental, but then I got the idea to use up some old fence boards I've been saving forever in my backyard. Since I had some time on my hands (no other work besides this one, for now), I decided to save some out-of-pocket money, and build my own.
Then I got the bright idea to use an old loft railing (I've been storing in my backyard, forever) for a temp. gate on one side. and utilize the existing wrought iron backyard gate and set it up in my temporary fence. So I've built this cool fence with gates all around, to protect my jobsite. Not really "secure" of course, but just visually protect, I guess. At any rate, it's no worse than the old fence and gate, which was never locked anyway. Guess I won't leave valuable tools out overnight here.
But the thing looks awesome - way cool for a temporary jobsite gate. Guess I should go check out the plans, now.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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I don't know if they still have it or not, but a few years ago SW had out several series of historic colors. One was for arts and crafts homes. .
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
SW still has them. Used it to choose a green for our porch - only room in the house where the color feels 'right'.
Finally got my permit and stamped plans back from the county today. Tore out the concrete block wall that was right where the room addition is going. Hope to have it formed tomorrow, and underground plumbing on Monday. Finally some action!
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This is my concrete sub. To think I actually considered taking this wall out by myself, just because things are so slow for me right now. Glad now I didn't!
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Roycrofter's
http://www.roycrofter.com/
http://www.roycroft.org/
Next time make it a hard one.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Huck,
Congrats on getting the job! Should be a fun project for you.
I really like the style of the house, definitely very far away from a tract house.
Perfect opportunity to do a nice photo thread as you progress.
How old is the original house? In your pictures it seems either really well maintained or fairly new.
You cannot convey tone in an email.
Thanks. Nice observational powers - the house is 2-3 yrs. old.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
this is the old block wall that's coming out - and you can see where I removed the wrought iron gate, to utilize in my temp. enclosure
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The view from the backyard
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cleaned up and hosed off at end of day. I opened the wall where the addition will go - since I have to match the slab exactly - its going to be one big room now.
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I opened a small hole all the way to the inside, I needed to check location of sheetrock on wall perpendicular to the outside wall - since my new wall has to line up exactly - the sheetrock has to plane in perfectly, or it will show up. Its gonna be one long wall once I finish the addition.
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This Pella window was slated to be removed and re-used. But the archie put it next to the door, so the sash have to be replaced with tempered. Ka-Ching! Unless the h.o. wants to move it over 24".
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Edited 11/10/2008 8:41 pm by Huck
Congratulations on landing a teriffic project Huck! Nice to be matching up to something that was actually built in this century.
If I had to settle on one type of job to do for the rest of my career, this would be it.
Good luck.
DavidThe best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
rough plumbing - ready for inspection
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Huck,
Glad to see you've got a project worthy of your interests. Thanks for the photo essay.
Question...what's the yellow connection here?
Thanks,
Steve
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thats just a plug for the old clean out - we moved it, and we're using a two-way for both the old existing bathroom, and the new one.
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kinda hard to tell, but that's the new cleanout riser right next to the old one that's plugged.
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No electrical in the slab?
When are we pouring?
How far out do you have to request inspections in your area?
Did you run the DWV?
Where's the supplies?
Hawks-full of Q's tonight.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
No elec. in the slab - its all overhead
Hope to pass rough plbg. insp. tomorrow, then back fill Wednesday, rebar Wed. or Thurs. (depending on what time of day it gets inspected), footing inspection Thurs. or Fri., and pour MAYBE Friday, Saturday, or Monday a week from today. Hey, I'll (hopefully) be framing pretty soon!
I called insp. in today, they said they'd be out tomorrow.
Plbrs. ran the dwv
The supplies? Some oriental guy hid them around the corner, and when you go looking for them, he jumps out and startles you and yells "Supplies!!"View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Supplies!
Too funny.
Good luck on the pour.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Some oriental guy hid them around the corner, and when you go looking for them, he jumps out and startles you and yells "Supplies!!"
LOL, reminds me of that guy on the "Pink Panther".
Great thread, keep up the great work and photo's!
“Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.†Reagan....
Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. -Truman Capote
No pics today =(
Passed underground plumbing inspection, and back filled. Got started on removing the roof tiles on the overhanging eave, cutting out sections of the bottom plate (I want to see the old concrete when I pour the new, to make sure it all planes in - since the floor will be one continuous floor with the addition. Also started cutting (diamond blade in Skilsaw) the stucco for the addition.
Chemical toilet arrived today - yay, don't have to drive to Mickey D's now. $131.13 for the first month.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
"This Pella window was slated to be removed and re-used. But the archie put it next to the door, so the sash have to be replaced with tempered."Huck,I have a similar situation on an older house I'm renovating. The windows are 100 year old double hungs that the owners don't want to replace. Our Building Inspector is allowing us to use a window film in place of safety glass as long as it's installed by a certified installer. haven't done that part yet so I don't know the cost as of yet. might be something to look into
Barry E-Remodeler
Thanks Barry - hadn't considered that option. He's going to talk it over with the Mrs. to see about moving it over 2'. As picky as he is, I don't think he'd go for the film, since he's a stickler about everything having to match the existing EXACTLY. But it's good to have that filed away in my bag of tricks - I'm sure it'll come in handy at the right time!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Cleaned up the site, footing inspection tomorrow. Concrete guys will put rebar, sand, and plastic tomorrow morning. I've begun removing the roof tiles from the overhang, and cutting the stucco where my walls will tie in.
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official plan table
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Don't you hate jobsites with no 'facilities'?
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Very nice. I worked on a Frank Loyd Wright house as a finish carpenter and I don't think I've ever been in a more thought out house.
Everything just seemd right if you know what I mean. And it had that history feel to it.
On top of all that, the owners were just nice folks.
Edited 9/16/2008 8:23 pm ET by popawheelie
ready to pour (passed footing inspection)
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Huck how far did they make you dowel into the existing slab to tie in teh rebar? Did they allow epoxy to attachment? Our local B.I. will not allow expoxy, regardless of ICBO or ESR.ML
#3 rebar 18" o.c. 9" deep, all the plans said was "grout", we used epoxy - no problem. Why wouldn't they let you use it?View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
The AHJ made us use Hilti 9" QB-2's with a coupling and 1/2" all thread. Said the threads gave better holding value than rebar.
I've never heard anything like that before. I asked him is he on crack which probably didn't help any, but we did it his way. At least it wasn't epoxied in place before he told us that.ML
The AHJ made us use Hilti 9" QB-2's with a coupling and 1/2" all thread. Said the threads gave better holding value than rebar. I've never heard anything like that before.
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finally got mud
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this was my first time using this concrete sub. He's been around for a long time, has great equipment and a great crew, does excellent work.
But he did one thing I hate - starts complaining "I underbid this, I need more money." then the classic "of course you know my bid didn't include the flatwork" - which was clearly drawn on the plans and was dicussed in depth, and none of which, nothing, has been changed one iota since then (when I asked why it wasn't included, he said "because I had no idea what you wanted" - yeah, right.)
That's OK, I'll pay extra for the flatwork, my bad for not going over his written bid a little closer - I didn't catch it. But I hate that stunt, and man I hate the whining. I'd even pony up a little more $ for his work, if I didn't hate the whining so much that I hestitate to reward it. Plus, this is a guy who makes 10 times what I do - should I really feel sorry for him?View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Thats a good way not to get asked to bid any more of my work if you ask me.ML
Today 1st drop of lumber arrived - without nails!! They sent galvanized by accident in place of vinyl coated sinkers - and no stainless steel. Stainless steel are necessary to nail the ACQ treated bottom plates - otherwise the chemicals used in treating the wood will eat through the nails. Surprisingly, no one else in town (so the lumber yard tells me, anyway) is using stainless steel nails. (I went by the Big Box lumber store, and they don't carry stainless steel).
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"Today 1st drop of lumber arrived - without nails!! "Wow, you normally use USED lumber with nails in them. <G>..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Wow, you normally use USED lumber with nails in them
well, I do try to be green on a Greene and Greene job! =)View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Today I felt good, worked a long day, and still seemed to get little done. I had to cut back the overhang, and return the fascia. This thing is built like fort knox - A-35's on every frieze block, sheathing nailed 2" o.c., stucco'd eave on expanded metal lath. So it went kinda slow.
Then there's discussion with h.o. in the morning, figure and order my next lumber load, call and schedule some help for tomorrow, etc. etc. Man some days its amazing when anything gets done! By afternoon I framed the small wall section - its still a 2x6 wall 12' high, the header for the glass block is at 8', so it didn't feel that small when I had to pick it up and set in on the anchor bolts!
Tomorrow I have help coming, but I wanted to get a start on things by myself first, before bringing in help, since my buddy is good but not cheap.
I got a small office remodel I'm in the middle of also, and another addition I should be working on the bid - hope she doesn't get pizzed - I'll try to work on both tomorrow afternoon.
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My buddy & fellow contractor Joaquin is helping me out for a coupla days - here he's horsing around for the camera. Just wanted a picture for scale - 2x6 walls 12' high, doors and windows at 8'.
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Keep it up Huck, look forward to it.Any idea how long GVS will last in the treated bottom plates? I've never heard anyone using SS nails except on exposed fasteners such as decks. ML
You're probably right - galvanized is probably fine. I guess that's what I'll use until my ss shows up.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
What am I seeing here? Did you sawzall out sections of the sole plate between studs so that the concrete guys had a better plane to work to?
I'm thinking yes, if so, kudos to you sir.
Good looking job. Wish I could take time to post the progress on my MP thread as you have here.
David The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Yes, I did cut out the plate for the concrete guys. This'll be one continuous room now, so I wanted to give him every advantage I could in matching the level of the old slab. Architects draw this stuff 'cause it looks good on paper, but they don't realize how difficult it is to add on to an existing room and make an invisible seam. Because if the old slab is a little off, or if the existing walls aren't perfectly straight, You might not notice it now, but you will see it when the room grows.
I'm kinda stressing about framing the walls now, without first removing the wall that's gonna disappear, so that I can see how my walls plane in with the existing walls. But I can't really open it up until the new addition is at least semi-secure. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place! I opened up a few small holes, and that's the best I can do for now.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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two weeks and two days from start of actual work
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I see you love a clean, neat, and orderly sit as much as I do.
You rock man!The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Thanks - I try to keep it as clean and safe as possible, I hate tripping over jobsite cr*p, and I think better when its uncluttered! View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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Way to go!
Have another beer.A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.
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Looking Good!Thanx for sharing. That is a good detail and saves from buying full length material.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
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this cantilever beam wasn't even drawn on the plans, but there would be no way to put the roof on without it. My solution to beefing it up. Also, the soffit that sits on it is supported by 2x6 joists cantilevering over the bearing wall, going back to a 2x10, so all the weight doesn't end up on this beam.
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I ran the soffit 2x6 joists back to a 2x10, like a true cantilever, rather than let the corner beam carry all the load.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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The architect spec'ed this 5x15 structural g.l.b., with nothing holding it up on one end. A real Einstein.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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This g.l.b. will support the roof-ceiling when the wall below it comes out, and will also hold up the end of the new structural ridge beam. The archie argued with me saying it wasn't necessary. Yeah, right.
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I personally hate this detail where two roofs of different heights intersect. Here's how the orig. house builders handled it.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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here's how I handled it.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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so here's the wall that's coming out, and the "unnecessary" g.l.b. I'm putting in to carry the old roof and the new ridge beam. That post down to the wall comes out when the wall comes out, but I'll add one down to the udder beam.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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I also put some bracing under the structural ridge beam down to the bearing wall, with a tie, and bolted togetherView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Thanx for sharing.
Great solutions for matching period details.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
thanks Chuck. Pretty quiet here - nice to know someone's looking at the pics!
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Sorry for not speaking up.
I've been watching and enjoying.
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no apologies needed - thanks for letting me know, 'tho, I appreciate it! Guess I'm just missing the days when there was more action on the construction threads than on the political ones. Signs of the times, I guess. =)View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Hey looks great, following with much interest. Love that you take the time to post the photo threads. THANKS
Guess I'm just missing the days when there was more action on the construction threads than on the political ones. Signs of the times, I guess. =)
H ell yea I hear ya on that one, I really cant belive that so many can carry on like that its sad.
Sounds like work is slow everywhere its bringing out the inner hustle to make ends meet, so maybe those that survive will be stronger when it all evens out in a little while (if I make though the heating season would be a good enough). Best of luck to ya. Hopefully that leads to some other good jobs.
Dan- cant sleep
Looks good Huck! I too miss those days.ML
thanks! Here's a purlin brace with vertical kickers down to bearing wall
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Nice job. The only thing I miss about living out west is the number of days you could count on without rain to open up the existing roof for the tie-in. Vermont's weather can be sketchy!
The only thing I miss about living out west is the number of days you could count on without rain to open up the existing roof for the tie-in
They're calling for rain next week - don't it figure!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Pretty quiet here - nice to know someone's looking at the pics!
I'm sure there's a bunch of us enjoying your pics. Thanks for posting... and keep up the good work.
BTW, I assume the rafters are green because they will be exposed. Is it just paint, green stain or something special?
I assume the rafters are green because they will be exposed. Is it just paint, green stain or something special?
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Huck, just another lurker appreciating your pics. Great job and keep it up!
I have to seal the room off from the rest of the house to the h.o.'s satisfaction, before I can take the wall down between the old and the new. Temporary wall - metal studs, pressure fit, plywood one side, drywall other side.
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Just curious -- why run copper to mid-height in the wall and then transition to PEX in this pic?
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Why not transition at the source to eliminate a hidden coupling?
I'm enjoying the pics. Interesting load bearing beam details.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Why not transition at the source to eliminate a hidden coupling?
The whole house was done in pex when it was built. Plbr. said he wanted to bring pex over to our addition, but transition to copper in the walls. I said ok, couplings are ok wherever they occur - attic, walls, etc. They avoided some soldered elbows and couplings by transitioning in the stud bay. If pex couplings fail, we're all gonna be in trouble!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
"Plbr. said he wanted to bring pex over to our addition, but transition to copper in the walls."
Ah. I was seeing backwards. I thought the copper was incoming. He's just using really long copper stubouts! ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Thanx for sharing this project.
I am in the middle of a whole house renovation/update of a 1950's rancher. I would rather be doing what you are doing but thankful to have the work.
I admire your attention to detail.
Chuck S
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opened up the wall
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Thanks for posting. Looks great!
thanks Tim, good to hear from ya' - things are so slow around here all the framers are in the oil fields now, where the only money left is at!
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drop ceiling in the shower (last minute change) not completed
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Huck Looks real good.whats the SF of the addition? You matching the stucco finish on the exterior?
ML
actual living space under 300 sq. ft. - we'll match the stucco on two walls, cement board siding on the side that faces the front of the house.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
got the last ceiling joist in, cableing run
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exhaust fan ductwork completed.
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Thanks for keeping this going. I've been enjoying the updates from afar.Gotta say, I'm impressed by the neatness of the site and your attention to the little details. Good show!Question for you, too. Looks like you've got rigid ducting for the fan, and flex for the registers. Why the difference?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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thanks! Nah, its flex for the fan also, just can't tell by the pic. Insulated flex for the ducts.
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I too have been lurking and enjoying your updates. (really like that you've posted the pics right on the page, not as an attachment.)When I see work like yours, it makes my little kitchen re-models look like childs play.Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. H.O. kinda pi$$ed me off day before yesterday. I gave bid for extra tile work (4' wainscot around the whole bathroom) $1700. So he tells me "I didn't get to live in a house like this by being stupid - I've built three houses, and I know when someone's trying to screw me."
Yeah right, like his house is so High and Mighty. Its a nice house, large and impressive, and I love the Greene and Greene style. But the craftsmanship of the original builder isn't much above tract home level. I've worked on nice houses, and his ain't in the same category.
Anyhoo, I told him if he didn't understand a bid, I would explain it to him, but don't give me this cr@p about someone "screwing" you because you don't understand a bid. I broke it down - $600 material, $840 labor, 10% profit 10% overhead - take it or leave it. He hasn't figured out what he wants to do yet, so I can't order tile yet. What a weiner. I cleaned up and went home for the day.
Yesterday I got over it, and got a lot done, but my truck broke down at end of day, and it spent all day today in the shop. Got it back now, but weather is getting ugly. Had my wife drop me off, and I dried-in the california valley over the existing house, and moved all my stuff under the roof, just kinda cleaned up and prepared for rain.
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Edited 10/30/2008 8:24 pm by Huck
here you can kinda see the addition in its context
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huck....looking good...
don't let it get under your skin...
<<<<"I didn't get to live in a house like this by being stupid - I've built three houses, and I know when someone's trying to screw me.">>>>
sometimes people just assume they're getting screwed.... mostly from some previous relationship that they project onto you
another example of customers thinking they know what something costs....and not having a clue.... i like that you handled it well....let him vent and reconsiderMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
you gonna finish that stone on the chimney for him too?:)
you gonna finish that stone on the chimney for him too?:)
good one!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
sometimes people just assume they're getting screwed.... mostly from some previous relationship that they project onto you
Thanks. He clarified: it wasn't me trying to screw him, it was my tile guy. I said look, these subs are people I've known and worked with for years - they will not try to screw you. I just don't do business that way, and I don't use sub's that do business that way. I pretty much said what you said - You may have been burned in the past, and I'm sure you think me or my subs are gonna do the same, but we won't. He had a different attitude next time we spoke, so I guess he got over it too. Just kind of a rotten way to start my morning.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Today I hope to finish up a little 4K remodel. I ripped out a wall and extended the kitchen cabinets by about 6'. HO paid directly for all major materials, cabs, etc. I had miscalculated by 1/4" when I cut existing crown off for new upper cabs. I had filled the gap with a slice of the crown and the HO wanted to know was I going to paint that. (I've done it all, wiring, plumbing, painting, etc. except install the granite ctr top.) I just looked at him and said "Yes, Evan, I'm going to paint that". He's already his "How to be God, 101" in medical school and he's taken advanced courses in his residency.I get so tired at being looked at like I'm stupid because I work with my hands. Us dummy's don't have to use our brains to do this work.Sorry I've dumped my frustrations on you but thanks for listening.
I have a friend who makes real good money as an oilfield supervisor. High school dropout, can't read well, but a pretty smart guy. Says he tried construction, but couldn't stay with it because its "too boring". I don't even respond to that.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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grab-bar backingView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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the roofers really did a nice job with this roof juncture - the flashing was clean and tight. I left the sheathing un-nailed so they could pull it up to work on the flashing first.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
this scissor-lift truck is the bees' knees for loading materials
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the south side will get cement-board sidingView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
don't know why I put flashing paper around the glass-block openings - no flanges, so I guess it really doesn't matter. Pella obscure window going in under the gable
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grab-bar backing by the toiletView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
this is the north side - it (and the end wall) will get foam and two-coat stuccoView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I suppose I could have been smarter all along and realized before now that the pics all open up to a larger size. LOLHow do you keep your blocking aligned so well during nailing? I'm assuming that it's toenailed top and bottom, but how to you keep it from shifting when the first nail goes in? Do you put in a clamp or measure piece of scrap below?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I stagger the blocks when I can, so that I can nail straight in from the stud at both ends, botta bing botta boom. But in situations where they all line up, I try to toenail an 8d from the stud to the block first, then end nail at the other end, then put my toenails from the block to the stud. View Image
If its a tight, snug fit, sometimes you can endnail straight through the stud with two 16's at the free end, then toenail two 16's through the stud at the other end - starting above the adjacent block, angling down into the end of the block you're nailing. It doesn't tend to want to move much in that case - it always tends to move less when you're toenailng from the stud into the block.
If you're toenailing from the block into the stud, another trick is to start your toenails before you put the block in, with the tip of the nails just barely protruding - that way you're not fighting the block wanting to move as you start your toenails.
And yes, I did use a Quick Clamp in a few cases where the framing was stubborn.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
What's going on the base of the columns?
Cultured stone?
What's going on the base of the columns? Cultured stone?
yup
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Ah, I see. I was wondering how you were going to cap
them, but your photo answered my question. I've only done a couple of jobs with cultured columns and
I poured concrete caps on those.
Wasn't aware they sold caps stones.
looks good.
Friday the roofers finished up, I took care of a few loose ends and spent several hours cleaning and organizing the jobsite.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Huck,I'm just catching up here. Thanks for taking the time to post all of the details. Interesting & informative job & thread.
Thanks. Got the front door in today.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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...and the window we removed is being re-used, but I've ordered tempered sash because of the proximity to the door.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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I was worried about the door, because the weather has been rainy, and the architect designed virtually no protection to speak of. Called a painter buddy of mine, and he came over and stained it, he'll seal it tomorrow.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Spent a good chunk of the day on this monster mortise, to fit a lock the h.o. provided, only to find the lockset he gave me doesn't work. Why I hate using their stuff on my jobs!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
from the insideView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
arrrrgggghhh..
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so are you going to get it repaired or have him replace it ?
keep on keeping on... it's all great stuffMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Thanks. I let my help go, and I don't have much other work right now, so I'm hoping to drag this out until Christmas. I could speed it up, but I don't want to get too far ahead of the payment schedule (I set it up for weekly payments), and the h.o. doesn't want to speed up the payment schedule (although he would love for me to speed up the job - yeah, right!)View Image
I guess I'll take the lock in to the supply house tomorrow, and see what they can tell me. It wasn't purchased from them, 'tho, so I doubt I'll get much help. But it is a brand they carry (Emtek). It was "left over" from the original build, a few years back.
I drilled and chiseled to get the dang thing in, and it still wouldn't fit. So (finally) I wrapped some 80 grit around a drill bit, and spun it inside the mortise - worked slick, fit right in after that. Took me an hour of d*cking around to figure it out, 'tho! And then installing, uninstalling, and reinstalling that lockset umpteen times, before I finally figured out it was defective. "arrrrgggghhh.." is right!!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Bladwin? Next time let me know if you want to borow the P/C Mortiser? First time using it on a $800.00 door is scarey to say the least
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Bladwin? Next time let me know if you want to borow the P/C Mortiser? First time using it on a $800.00 door is scarey to say the leastView Image
Yeah, working on these high dollar doors is stressful. I won't tell you about the mahogany / glass door I once hung from scratch - backwards!!! =)
At any rate, this job was an Emtek Craftsman lockset on a $1400 mahogany door. The 8' version (door) was 4k!
(one of my clients brags her front doors cost 10k! - see photo as left)
So please, tell me more about the P/C Mortiser!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
OK, thanks for the email with the link to the porter cable mortiser. Looks pretty awesome, priced pretty awesome too! Seems like they forced the high price with the proprietary router, when they could have made it to accept any router. View Image
This is the first time I've done one of these - don't run into them very often, obviously.
I drilled a bunch of overlapping holes with a 3/4" forstner bit (in my cordless DeWalt) as deep as I could. That worked good - but then I had to follow with a spade bit to get the full depth. Kinda tricky because you're getting close to popping out the other edge with the pointed tip of the spade bit.
Then I followed that with a chisel, cleaning the waste between holes. But the lockset wouldn't go in, so I tried to file the edges inside, but that was a poor tool for the job. I finally took a 5/8" drill bit, taped a strip of 80 grit sandpaper to it, and wrapped it tightly counterclockwise, with the end loose. I stuck that in the mortise, and turned on the drill. Then I raised and lowered it several times inside the mortise, and it cleaned up the mortise walls just dandy.
After that the lockset slid in and out nice and easy, while remaining snug. Definitely not what I'd call quick and easy. If I had many to do, I'd want that tool!
BTW, do you drill the hardware holes in the face of the door frame before mortising, or after? I did it after, but it seemed kinda chancy because of drilling through a thin wall, with the chance of blowout as the bit came out the backside.
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changing a 2'8" door to a 3'0" door - I'm gonna try and keep the hinge leg of the jamb, and just add a new head piece - and hopefully, re-use the strike leg.
You can see my "fake" wall to the left of the ladder.
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Edited 11/19/2008 9:09 pm by Huck
drywall has arrived!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
2x rough sawn trim around the door and glass block
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man, that's some fancy plumbing! My plumber came out today and plumbed for the three shower heads (rain, regular, and hand-held).
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the h.o. doesn't like this high threshold (about 2 1/2") so he said Take it out. He's arguing with Pella to replace it with a flatter model. They said this is the new "improved" version - and they said a lot of people are unhappy with it. Its a real tripper - and he's got a handicap son who'll be driving his wheelchair over it.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
End of day (boy it sure gets dark early!)
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They asked you to paint the temp wall?
they do know it's temporary right?....
ML
They asked you to paint the temp wall?
yup. I know, I know. The customer is always right. I mean, I had to get some paint to match anyway, and it went fast. But this guy is a bit over the top on some of his requests - and he never, ever gives compliments. The closest he came was when he said "now its starting to look like something" when we lathed for stucco. wow.
I was glad to paint the temp. wall, 'tho, since he almost didn't let me demo the exterior wall between old and new, until the shell was finished. That just wouldn't have worked. When he saw the temporary wall, he aquiesced. If I painted it.
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Edited 11/19/2008 9:52 pm by Huck
Yep some people just don't know how to compliment. I work for one of them... In 10 years have never heard a atta boy, thats OK I'll still keep making him money as long as he keeps signing the check.Nice work Huck I check every day for updates.ML
Yep, been down the thankless road for a few years, knew I was getting better when I wasn't getting berated so much. Never heard a word, then I did it perfect.
Best was one day I had to take his truck and right on top of the console was a 2 page thank you letter from a previous customer. It even mentioned me and another one of the guys specifically complimenting us. I told the other guy about it and we never said anything to the boss, and we never heard a word from him about it. We would have never knew it existed.
I think he was afraid if we thought we were any good we would leave and he wouldn't have reliable workers who could put up with him. He was a bit resentful of two previous workers who moved on to better things, acting like he built them and then they left him out to dry. Some people are just born miserable.
Didn't get a whole lot done today - had to leave early to go to another small handyman job.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Had to scribe the corner piece. Where the addition meets original house is where there should be no obvious clues that anything was added.
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I put a 30 degree bevel on the trim board between the siding and the stone.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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Neal,
I have been watching this thread from the beginning and have thoroughly enjoyed following along. I really appreciate how clean you keep your jobsite, love that.
I'm sorry I haven't commented before now.
(Always love all of your threads, 'specially the truck one!)
Keep on keepin' on...
thanks
darcy
"Yes, one day you'll know what it is, you'll be like me, except that you won't have anyone with you, because you won't have had pity on anyone and because there won't be anyone left to have pity on you."
~ Hamm
thank ye kindlyView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
turns out its not defective - it just has a weird feature I didn't know about - you press a pin on the edge of the lockset, and it locks the thumb lever. Only way to unlock it is to press another pin. Wish it had come with directions!
Pella delivered today - got the bathroom window inView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
and got the patio door in (Pella 3'0" door is only 34" - weird!)View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
The homeowner couldn't tell I used two different stain colors here - he thought I forgot. Looks obvious to me!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
The panels in the door are supposed to be redder. So the h.o. thought I missed it. Wow, how much redder should I have made them?
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This is the door I'm supposed to match. I think its the stain on the frame portion - looks much redder on my door, so not as much contrast. But that's in the wood - some Mahogany has more red in it. In my door it varies quite a bit, but portions are pretty red. Oh well, its wood - it has variations. What do people expect?View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I take it since your finishing the job yourself your not worried about tha door getting banged up? we usally set a temp door when something like that door is used. nice door though glad the locked worked out. we had a home owner tell us the lock was no good because she couldn't get it to locked with the door open :)
I take it since your finishing the job yourself your not worried about tha door getting banged up?
yeah, basically. Me and a few subs I know and trust. View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Do the doors get damaged by roof water splashing off the pavement?
outswing ? i thought inswing was preferable for wheelchairsMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
outswing ? i thought inswing was preferable for wheelchairs
His choice.
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Edited 1/3/2009 2:37 pm by Huck
may post some comments later, here's some picsView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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Looks real good.What ever came of that door?Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
What ever came of that door?
He bought a replacement with a low threshold, now we're waiting on it. Meanwhile, I'll do what I can to keep the job moving, but its definitely thrown a wrench in the gears.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Aack! What did you do to those walls? Please tell me it's some kind of intermediate finishing step that you've developed :-)
What did you do to those walls? Please tell me it's some kind of intermediate finishing step that you've developed :-)
Well, it is an itermediate finishing step - but I didn't develop it! Its called skip-trowel texture, and its what was on the original house, that I had to match. While it looks wild in the pictures, its actually pretty subtle once it's painted. Kind of a hand-plastered look, reminiscent of the old plastered walls.View Image
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Edited 12/9/2008 9:57 pm by Huck
Thanks. I've experimented with textured finishes, but I haven't had occasion to actually use it.
Here's a link to a thread where I did some experimenting with adding setting compound to paint to get a textured finish. I don't think I was successful at imitating plaster, but it's an interesting look anyway.
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=112103.1
from seeing your picture, I bet if you took a broad knife and flattened it out once it started to set up you'd have a real similar look to skip trowel.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Don - Here's a picture of skip trowel texture taken with extreme side-light. Normally its so subtle you really hardly notice it, but the harsh light shows you what skip-trowel is. I'll post a couple of pics.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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That steel brace makes this real solid - but there is still a tiny bit of flex, especially if a heavy person were to sit on it. So I'm a little nervous about tiling it, might need to put a corble brace to beef it up.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I'll probably clean this up with a trim board tomorrow, after I put some kind of corble.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
kinda hard to tell, but what I was trying to show here is that when I cut my filler between the cabinet and the wall, I don't attach it directly to the side of the face frame. Instead, I put it just behind the face frame, so there's a little offset there. I do the same on both uppers and lowers. I just think it looks cool that way, wonder if anyone else does it that way also.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
nope never done it that way but i may now ! :)
I like it!
Any idea how much time it adds to finishing a smooth tape/spackle job? I'm thinking that it at least doubles it. And for ceilings, it seems like stilts would be a requirement.
Any idea how much time it adds to finishing a smooth tape/spackle job?
for me it adds little time - because with skip trowel I can get away with two coats then texture. After two coats I sand thoroughly, then touch-up any bad areas and hit any areas (like cornerbead) that need a little more mud, and follow with the skip trowel. So the texture effectively becomes my third coat.
I work off a rolling scaffold, and I can move it without coming down.
Keep in mind most my jobs are small - this little room addition is probably the largest I'd run into. For a larger job, I call in the boys with stilts, and for an even larger job, I call in the boys with stilts and bazookas!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
working on the trim around glass block and door
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The trim in the original house is not pocket screwed or biscuit joined - it is just nailed in place. To me, this is inadequate for this size trim. There are already places in the house where the trim is twisting away from the wall, and the joints are coming loose - esp. in high moisture areas, like the laundry room. And the house is only a few years old.
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I still can't get over the unmatched colors in that pic. I see four, maybe five different shades of green. Do they all really match up in real life?Scott.Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.â€
I still can't get over the unmatched colors in that pic. I see four, maybe five different shades of green. Do they all really match up in real life?
well, the trim on the addition is slightly different than the trim on the house - because its a primer coat, and color match isn't that important until the finish coat. The siding matches the green door - if you look at the edge that hasn't seen any sunlight. The stucco is green, but doesn't match anything else, and the lid (ceiling) of the carport is tan, and doesn't match the stucco, but its not really noticeable - and they did that because the stucco on the walls is two-coat cement based stucco, and the lid is synthetic "stucco". View Image bakersfieldremodel.com
The trim around the door. This thing is a monster. Carrying it in the door with no helper really put some stress on those pocket screws, but they held! In retrospect, I should have put some temporary bracing while carrying it, or built it indoors!View Image
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Looking great.
Where did the inspiration for the head casing come from? G&G? I really like the ones with that flourish applied to only one side (where the other dies into the adjacent wall). Gives it a nice modernist interpretation.
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Where did the inspiration for the head casing come from?
I have seen it done in craftsman style homes, but can't say if Greene and Greene ever used that detail. In my case I'm just replicating the rest of the house (see orig. closet trim in photo). On the windows they just inverted the detail for the bottom trim, which looks ugly to me. I'm not following protocol there, and so far no one's said anything. As you can see, I'm using a sill and a skirt board.View ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Thanks. It actually reminds me of a Torii gate and I wondered if there was some pan-Craftsman connection. And really, the Torii idea of separating the sacred from the profane is rather appropriate for a window or door, no?Go ahead and tell the HO that was your intention and bump yourself up on the genius scale in his mind. LOL'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Thanks for sharing all this. Nice work!
Great stuff!Never knew glass block came in a flavor other than clear. That's a nice touch as a modernist interpretation of stained glass.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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The homeowner provided the glass block, and he bought it online from some place that imports it from Italy.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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After your post I started poking around to see what was available. Saw that murals on individual or multiple blocks are quite popular. Perhaps a new avenue for your talents?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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had to move the elec. outlet out of the cornerView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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and here's the patch on the backside of the wall where I moved the outlet - its always somethingView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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thanks for keeping up the pics.
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p.s. hows the weather down there? i took my daughter to see snow for the first time yesterday on Mt Diablo. 3-5" at the summit. Brrr...
cold, rainy, roads in and out are closed with snow - miserable day today!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Leah's first snow.
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tile guy uses thinset to bond new cement to slab - kinda interesting, hadn't seen it done that way before.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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countertop floated out - you can see where the screed boards wereView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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huh. it shows on my screen... oh well. just a pic of my daughter in an unusal amount of snow for the bay area. i guess you guys have been getting hit too.
i heard the grapevine was closed today, and something about snow in malibu. brr...
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That counter looks great, but my experience tells me that if you do not have support under the free corner, the tile will crack.
I have been following quietly along. Looks really good.
Thanx for sharing.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
ok....i'll bite...''what's with the pink trim ?
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what's with the pink trim ?
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...But I thought was supposed to be a Greene and Greene house...
not green and pink...lol...
Just guessing, but it's probably not that pink.
(Still enjoying this thread, btw.)
Now I see the long and short the middle and what's in between. I could spit on a stranger. You're a bitter stranger...
Just guessing, but it's probably not that pink.
Thanks. There is a little distortion with a back-lit computer screen, and maybe from the flash when I took it, also. Its a little darker in real life. But still, it is pink. Its just that it doesn't jump out at you so much, when you're there, as it does on internet pictures. The color scheme isn't my favorite, but its what the client picked."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I just assumed the color distortion was due to the time of day, and other things you mentioned.
"The color scheme isn't my favorite, but its what the client picked."
I think that I have prefered some red that was a little rustier.
Really enjoying you thread though! Nice work.
These are monster doors - 3-0, 8-0, 1 3/4" solid Bolivian mahogany, very big and very heavy. The dust made me feel sick. Beveled with my new DeWalt Track Saw, worked out well. View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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This is the existing doorway into the bedroom - now a 3-0, previously a 2-8. I salvaged the original jamb leg and casing on the hinge side. My hinge template matched the hinge layout exactly - crazy, huh? Guess those guys used the same Templaco template I did. It seemed to work out ok, so far anyway. Needs the rest of the jamb!View Image
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I used my new Track Saw to cut a 3 degree bevel on both edges (what I bought it for, actually), worked out great, but needs a shop-vac attached, way too much dust!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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the new door into the bathroom. I talked the h.o. out of putting a pocket door here. Can you imagine a 3-0, 8-0, 1 3/4" solid mahogany pocket door? I hung this like a pre-hung: nailed up the hinge side of the jamb, mortised the hinges, then attached the door. Then used the door as a guide to nail up the rest of the jamb. Worked good.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I get scared just thinking about putting tools to a door like that!!!
Doing a fantastic job sir. Have really enjoyed lurking this thread these last few months.
Have a great Christmas.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Hi Huck,
I am very impressed.
Just got the chance to sit down and look through your project.
well done- keep it up.No Tag
hubcap, did you work yesterday? and if so how was your drive home? my hr drive turned into over two hrs
worked sunday (brutal) monday and yesterday. Forgot the camera.
drive home was 3 hour whiteknuckle
have a merry christmas mikeNo Tag
thanks - coming from you, that's a double compliment! (an' don't fergit the camera no mo'!)"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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So I left the jamb and casing on the hinge side - re-used some trim above, added new door and new jamb-head, re-used the same jamb leg and casing on the strike side - overall went better than expected.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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After I pocket-screwed the trim together, I clamped it in place and nailed it up.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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trim stained, and door stained (two different colors stain).View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Client freaked out about box location cutting into trim. I knew it was going to be that way when I framed it - but that box had nowhere else to go - I had to notch studs on either side to get it in. I tried to explain that I would make it look good, but he couldn't visualize it. So I went ahead and did this, so he could see.View Image
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bathroom side of the doorView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I still haven't nailed up the door stop, or installed the hardware yetView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Huck, I would have used one of those over-under switches. They take up only one space.
well? did he like your solution to the switches? lookin good!
dunno - I'll find out, eventually. He usually don't say when he likes something, only when he don't!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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"He usually don't say when he likes something, only when he don't!"
Neil, well that's a dang shame. I think you have done a beautiful job. I have really enjoyed your documenting the entire job.
I can't wait to see what you do next.
(Sign me up, if you offer a painting class.)
Thanks! Painting class...hey, good idea. Painting videos! No work on the calendar for the new year, so I may yet finish that mural I started way back when. "...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Don't want to mess up your beautiful thread with jabber, but have you considered teaching at your local community college?
Also, one of the high schools up here in Sacto have finally put in a vocational construction and woodworker's program. I think you a most excellent teacher.
Why thank you kindly. Not too many photos today, short day. Got the doors milled for hardware, and one coat of polyurethane on this door.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Tile guys had a short day, too. finished this countertop, and lathed for mud (mud on walls tomorrow, hopefully)View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Yesterday the tile guys got some work done - I tried to find stuff to do to stay out of their way.
Repainted the front (it needed another coat) of the addition, and got a coat of polyurethane on the interior doors.
Short day today - I finished repainting the siding.
Made an attic access door and nailed up some stop to hold it in place, painted it.
Built an attic-access curb for insulation.
Started on finishing up the gable end framing. No pics today, a few from yesterday."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I let tile guys work on tile today, but told them after the holiday, work just on stone veneer. He has verbally agreed on about $1300 in extras, and I'm not going forward with any more tile until he pays. Probably be war again next week! I think I feel an ulcer coming on.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Pella door finally came today. 7 weeks after I installed the first one. Homeowner decided he didn't like it, and ordered a new one. Major delay. Heard from a friend he was bi+chin@ that I was dragging the job out. After he threw a 7-week wrench in the gears, knowing I couldn't finish sheetrock, casing, painting, floorcovering, or stucco without that door.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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decorative gable trimView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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sealing the end grainView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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installed. I'll build custom gable vents to fit in the space remaining.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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ripped a beveled board for the gate post to mount to (the gate will be angled).View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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first of two gates (the small one - the big one will be a pain)View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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the attic access door I built yesterday - needs more paint.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Nice work all around. I really enjoy this thread.
That's a nice neat look to the attic hatch. How did you finish if what would have been the exposed edges of the drywall?
How did you finish if what would have been the exposed edges of the drywall?
mud-on cornerbead.View Image View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Don't go up there, I'm scared!!Happy New Year!
Aha! You planned ahead on that. Good thinking.
My instinct tells me that he is going to find a way to avoid paying you in full. That is one excellent reason not to take your estimates lightly. I think it is best to estimate a little high and charge more. Then, if you get a guy like this, you can still make enough to keep your subs in business and earn a reasonable profit. There is no law, moral or otherwise, against earning a good profit for good work.
Good luck with outfoxing this guy.
My instinct tells me that he is going to find a way to avoid paying you in full
Yeah, almost seems like a given at this point. We know he will try to screw me one way or another."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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The next gate panel I have to install. The first one attached to the corner of the house, this one has to be anchored to the ground.
I attached the first, smaller panel to the corner of the house, and I found a square steel tube that will fit inside the post of this one. So I'll slide it inside this one's post, and set the whole thing in a concrete footing. View Image
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I drilled 3 holes in the steel post, and lagged into the corner of the house with 7" lag screws. In addition to the little tabs that screw in on the side of the post. Seems very solid. The cold weather did something to the spray paint I used. I'll sand and repaint in warmer weather.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Today the missus was showing the addition to her older daughter, and I asked her, Are you happy with it? I swear, she looked like she swallowed a bumble bee. She stuttered and stammered, and finally said, "well so far, I guess so."
I said "That's good, because I have never worked harder to make someone happy, seeing as how we have a mutual friend that recommended me, and I wanted to give you something extra special because of this being for your handicapped son."
She ran off.
Yeah, it feels to me like they're gonna screw me.`"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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"Yeah, it feels to me like they're gonna screw me."
Man, I feel for ya. It seems like the worst screw jobs come on the projects where you bend over backwards to rise above huge obstacles to please the client -- as you obviously have done on this job. They're also the ones that hurt the worst.
I had a client like that once where I pulled out all stops to get him the results that he needed in a do-or-die situation. Even gave him a huge break on the price 'cause he was in a jam.
After I succeeded, he decides that it was too easy (!!!), so not worth the $$$$ . So we met and discussed the work done, and the bill, and he agreed that it was fair and he would pay. Then he went home and "prayed on it" and decided not to pay after all.
Sheesh!
Had to sue him to get paid, and even tho' he eventually paid, that one still smarts.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
after you finish this job and hopefully get paid i would say to myself "ain't no flocking way i'd ever work for you again". beautiful work by the way, outstanding craftsmanship.
Thanks.
say to myself "ain't no flocking way i'd ever work for you again"
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After I succeeded, he decides that it was too easy (!!!), so not worth the $$$$ . So we met and discussed the work done, and the bill, and he agreed that it was fair and he would pay. Then he went home and "prayed on it" and decided not to pay after all.
Makes you wonder who he's praying to (I don't think I want to know!)"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I typed up a reply, but deleted it 'cause I figgured it'd step on someone's toes and get bounced into the Tavern, which I can't get to anymore. LOL!
So, you'll just have to use your imagination! ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
So like I said, I had figured to cut the hinges off the post, set a new (longer) steel post in cement, and weld the hinges back on. When I called my welder and said Let's do it, he was busy with other stuff, and never got back to me. Meanwhile I found that they make a steel post that fit exactly inside my steel post - how cool is that!View Image
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How cool is that?
Well, that's very cool and always happy when I hear things are going well for you as this job winds down.
Run, Neal, run! (lol)
I had that happen one time when i was fired from a job. I could not believe I was hearing the guy say God told him to fire me.
I guess it takes all kinds.
That's a sweet detail.Nice work, Huck.
Thank you"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Yay, the new door is in! Man, that sucker must weigh an easy 200. Sure felt like it, anyway. Outswinging, low threshold. Had to rip the jamb down, used the TrackSaw, perfect for this application.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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There it is, 7 1/2 weeks after the first one was installed! Man, what a headache this door has created!View Image
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gettin' ready to pour. My concrete sub had disappeared on me, so I guess I'll pour and finish the patio myself (with help of course) too.
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moved a lot of dirt in the processView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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you're just havin way too much fun....
we've still got 6" of snow on the groundMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I'm from so. cal. They said we may not see the sun for a couple more days. Is that anything like?"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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yeah, exactly.... might as well stay in bedMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Funny how things work out. I didn't plan on pouring today. But my concrete sub hasn't been returning my calls, and I knew I couldn't wait much longer. I moved that pile of dirt...again. This time to the driveway.
Then I called a pumper I know, and asked when he might be available to pump 3 yds. of colored concrete. He said what about today?
Nah, I don't have a finisher lined up. He said I'll get one. So OK, we're on for today. I called my plumber and had him set the cristy box for the cleanout (fortunately he said he could have it done by noon). Ran off to the concrete plant to pick a color, and pay for the mud. Picked up some tile I needed.
Get a call from my worker's comp insurance - they didn't get my last payment, and if I don't get a payroll statement for last 6 mo.s and a payment in their hands by Friday, I'm cancelled. Never mind that I haven't had any employees for over 6 months, and the payment is like $8, and No they won't take a credit card over the phone, I have to overnight mail an $8 check! Turn that headache over to my wife. Then back to jobsite.
The pumper is also the finisher today (he's about as much a finisher as I am). Showed up with a brand-new bullfloat, and brand new trowels. And his son-in-law. I had to jump in and help a little with the finishing, but we got it done. In the middle of the pour my concrete sub calls me with his price. Told him I'm in the middle of something, I'll get back to ya'.
Client called to complain that tile isn't getting done fast enough (he finally ponied up for the extras yesterday - by this morning he expects it would be finished LOL!) Loaded that dirt one last time - into a trailer.
Wore out."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I never wanna see this dirt AGAIN!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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These pics today are the first batch from my new camera, Canon PowerShot SD 770 IS - really a cool little camera, takes videos too.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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the tile and stone guys are going a little slow on this - because they have another huge project going on, and I know my little sideshow isn't hardly a blip on their radar. But they are really good, and I've known their boss for probably 20 years.
So I'm caught between being patient with them, and patient with the h.o. who causes more delays than anyone, and yet who is constantly yelling at me because things aren't progressing fast enough for him. Remind me again - why did I want to be a contractor?View Image
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Don't let him see the camera. Seeing you with toys like that will surely confirm for him that he is overpaying you. Also, the reason you are taking so long is that you are screwing around with the camera when you should be working!
"Don't let him see the camera. "
LOL! I was thinkin' Huck ought to pull up to the job site, towing a brand new, tricked-out bass boat, "just to check up" -- right after the check clears. ;-)
I'd pay a dollar to see the HO's face.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
I'll add $$$ to that fund even make the 2 hr trip to check out his face.ML
That is an excellent idea! Maybe he could just go to a truck dealership and take a test drive.
With one of these
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I had to set that as my desktop background! I wonder how much it costs.
I'm sure it's one of those things where if you have to ask...... you probably can't
afford it. Welder around here has a GMC like that with less bling. Sure stands out
in traffic.
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Client was upset about this shower bench. Said the ones he's seen are always made out of wood and covered with tile. I told him this one will not shrink, move, or crack the grout. He scowled and walked off.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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protecting the new slabView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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cutting the trim for the door that finally arrived, and the adjacent windowView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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not the fastest tilesetter in town, but does nice workView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Now that is a shower bench! Even my MIL could sit on that and not destroy it. Great job Huck, I have really enjoyed watching this one come along. You have a lot of talent and patience.
Experienced, but still dangerous!
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Just curious,what are the dadoes/channels the tile guys left in the seat and counter top. In the finished tile they don't show.It all looks great BTW.
Just curious,what are the dadoes/channels the tile guys left in the seat and counter topView Image
they build a layer of mud, then embed two strips of wood, which they level with each other, and front to back. That becomes their screed boards, to which they finish the surface of their cement. That way everything is dead nuts right on the money level and flat. These guys are not fast, but they are ace tile guys. Notice that there is virtually no grout line - you gotta have a really flat surface to get away with that. No dura-rock or wonder board on this job!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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the alarm guy. He left and forgot one window. He's not my sub, so I figured not my problem. He works for the h.o., who is not on my list of favorite people. Then I just couldn't let it ride, so I called him back to finish the bathroom window before we tile the wall. Gotta do the right thing, even tho some people make you wonder why you are!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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patching behind the alarm guyView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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How come the alarm wasn't ruffed w/the ele? Or did I miss a snafu?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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How come the alarm wasn't ruffed w/the ele?
it was - but they wouldn't come out to finalize the install until that last door was in and the window sash changed to tempered - which I needed Pella's help to do, and I didn't want to call Pella out until the door was installed, because they had to, at the same time, show me how to change out the grid and blinds that are inside the door (between the glass).
So everything is inter-connected on a sequential time-line, and when the h.o. put a 7-week wrench in the gears by buying a new door, the security was one of the gears affected. So once the door was installed about a week ago, I called Pella and scheduled them. They came out on Fri. morning, and we did the change-outs. So then I called the security people and they said Tues. A.M. was the soonest they could get to it.
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How do you change the glass or the blinds inside? I installed a Pella sliding glass door this summer on my home. Afterwards, I got to worrying that if I ever had problems with the blinds, I would have to replace the entire door. That would mean dismantling part of my deck to get at the Hardi siding before I could get at the door.
How do you change the glass or the blinds inside?
On this door, there are two clips on one side of the frame - you slide them up and down, and as you do, they disengage several little locks that hold the glass panel in. Once the locks are disengaged, the glass panel hinges open, to access the blinds and grid.
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Edited 1/14/2009 10:42 am by Huck
Thanks. That isn't going to work with mine. I just have to hope I never have a broken window.
Thank's for the info Huck,I learn something every day on this thread
Perhaps, offer him a cup-a-joe...or two.
lol
I wish that I had picture of the wooden one that pulled out.You could not believe how many carpenter ants there where is on small seat.But there where 100's of different mistakes in that install and the use of wood was way, way, down the list..
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We have a pretty nice 20-footer jet boat (for fishing in shallow waters) he is welcome to borrow.
Lol, it has a nice stereo...what song do you all think he should play?
Take This Job and Shove It?
Lol...
Does that mean we're going to get some videos soon?
Does that mean we're going to get some videos soon?
yup, got a few coming. just filming around the jobsite stuff, 'tho, nothing pre-planned yet. Just getting a feel for the camera.
Maybe I'll do a video on my wall patching, since I have several to do coming up."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Any flex in that counter, now that tile has been installed?
Any flex in that counter, now that tile has been installed?
View ImageNot a lick. Once they floated it with a couple inches of cement, the tiny bit of flex that was there disappeared.
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Good news.Coming along nicely!although... I think you should have told him the cement block WAS the finished shower bench...
I don't know how I could have been more explicit when I explained to the tile contractor that the height of the bench HAD to be a factor of the glass block dimensions, since glass block CANNOT be cut to fit. I specifically went over that with him, more than once. So today his tile guys are working on the glass block, and they come to me with a "problem": the glass blocks end about 3" from the ceiling. Great. This was my solution.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I told them I DO NOT want the homeowner to see that. So by day's end, this is what it looked likeView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I built this gable vent to fit between the decorative posts View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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While I was doing that, my contractor friend Bob was finishing the baseboardView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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then he helped me with my gable vents - here he is painting one.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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got the first one upView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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got the second one up. Two little ones to build tomorrow.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I like the way you think Huck. always quick on your feet . as usual it all looks great!
thanks.
building more gable ventsView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I'm making these from ripped down cedar dog-ear fence boardsView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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weird compound anglesView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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ooh, love it when it fitsView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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one more finished - just needs the screen on the backView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I'll put these in tomorrow, and that'll finish up that gable end finally. I built them so the louvers line up with the ones that already in place.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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That actually looks much better than if the blocks were spaced correctly. Makes it look more "built in".
looks much better than if the blocks were spaced correctly
Thanks. It was the height of the bench, not the spacing of the blocks, but same effect. It did turn out pretty nice after all. Still you wonder sometimes, what was he thinking?View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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i got an idea...... the bench ht. was a factor of how high a bench should be for seating.....
so, i bet your tile guy is right...... and... i like your solutionMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
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yesterday the tile guys finished all the tile and stone - finally!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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pattern for front door rampView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Now that the tile guys are finally out of the bathroom, I put the door back up, and polyurethane'd it. Other than that, I've been cleaning up, decommissioning the jobsite (that's a major project in itself!), and painting.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Nicely done.I've enjoyed this thread, thanks.
very niceNo Tag
thanks. Elec. showed up to set his finish today.View Image
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then I spent a couple of hours on this little booger - 1/4" aluminum diamond plateView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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I scored it with a skilsaw, then propped up the end while I jumped up and down on the middle, in order to make the bends
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here it is in place. It fits tight under the threshold, but I put two plastic anchors in the concrete, and screwed the front edge down.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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He wanted it painted black, so I wiped it down with lacquer thinner, then sprayed a coat of primer, and a coat of black (even tho' I know the paint won't hold up with wear and tear).View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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It does look sharp.But if he want to spend the money (I know) get it powder coated.Actually probably won't cost that much..
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But if he want to spend the money (I know) get it powder coated. Actually probably won't cost that much.
I appreciate the reply - I wouldn't have thought of it. But I will file that one away for future use.
On this project, No. Because if it costs one nickel more, he won't pay it. He still owes the tile guy $220 for tile upgrades that I doubt he will ever pay. He has been invoiced repeatedly, and just ignores it. Today I gave him a bill for $4400 (his final payment before the retainer at the end) and he said "I thought I already paid that", and got in his car and drove off.
And this little project (the threshold ramp) isn't even on the plans. But he requested it early on, so I agreed to come up with something. I'm already extending myself, and he is continuing to balk on paying.
Is douchebagism a word? I think it might apply here.
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That is why I worded the message that way.Most outdoor furniture now days is powder coated..
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Today: installed floor mounted door stops, towel bars, robe hook, grab bar, cabinet pulls. Repainted main room (somehow flat and satin got mixed up, the walls and ceiling were a mish-mash mix of both).
Stained the window darker (it had already been sealed and varnished -ugh!) for my nit-picky homeowner. Varnish touch-ups in several places. Emptied room for carpet layers tomorrow. Removed sheetrock from temporary security wall over pocket door. Cleaned up. Took pictures.
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Maybe I missed the explanation earlier, but what's coming out of the wall under the sink? (First row of tile)Vacuum port? Hose bib? Some sort of clever device so that you can squirt the HO after you collect the final payment? :)You've done a great job here. Thanks again for keeping the updates coming.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Carpet went in today. I'm finally done. Well, almost anyway. Still have to go pick up a few miscellaneous items left on jobsite. Still have to unload my truck (looks like Tom Joad on the road!). Still have to re-organize my garage now that I took everything home and don't have room to walk anymore! Still have to collect my final check. But basically, I'm done."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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It all looks so different. Just another room, hard to believe how much went into this little addition (under 300 sq. ft.). If people only knew.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Nice work.
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Thanks. Called for final inspection yesterday. Inspector told me to grout the toilet, but signed it off. I grouted it this morning. Paid a painter $140 to repaint the hallway where I had my temporary wall. I just didn't have it in me to do it myself. Spent all morning loading up my stuff.
BTW, I gave him a free shower ceiling, because he told me all the showers in his house have tile ceilings, and I knew I was supposed to match what he had. Yesterday I snuck in and double-checked. HE LIED!!
I'm not going to say anything at this point, I just want to get paid and never see him again. But I got a photo, because it may come up. If I have to go to court to get my last check, I'll go ahead and add the tile ceiling to his bill.
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Edited 1/24/2009 6:03 pm by Huck
It'll come back to him; and your dedication will come back to you. I'm certain of that.
k
edit- grouted the toilet?
Edited 1/24/2009 6:10 pm ET by KFC
Yep. Grouted the base of the toilet with tile grout. That's what the inspector wanted, although he said caulking would work too. But the tile grout looks better, and I had some, so why not?"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Funny, that just came up in a different thread. I'd never heard of it before. Live and learn.
k
Great job, I woulda used a chrome drain, but after all you went through? Nah.
Awesome work.
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Yeah, you might have something there. I googled after the subject came up, and found this, which might look cool. But remember, back then we didn't know about the dark tile wainscot - it was an afterthought that wasn't on the plans. So we really didn't give it much thought. Now with the tile, its more noticeable.View ImageDefinitely feel like I could use a break after that one! But then DW reminds me that the bills must get paid, so I can't lolly around for long!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Great work Huck! The HO has no idea what a craftsman he has in you, too bad he has to be such a pain. You have inspired a lot of us with your work, I personally have learned from watching you. Can't wait for the next project.
Experienced, but still dangerous!
Sorry Huck, I didn't mean to bust your balls about the drain after all this guys put you through. I just expected chrome out of you. ;) Good job though. hope you get paid every penny you deserve it .
Sweet!
Great work Huck.No Tag
didn't mean to bust your balls about the drain
no problem, I wouldn't post here if I didn't want to hear what people thought. I honestly didn't even think about it. To be truthful, I had never done one of these before, and it didn't occur to me how noticeable the drain would be.
I mean, I've done them in commercial buildings, but then we'd wrap them in foam tape, and it didn't matter what they looked like anyway. So I really didn't think about it, until you mentioned it. Now if I do another one, that will be one more refinement better than this one.
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kemo sabe.... thanks for the knot holes in the fence... it's been a lot of fun looking over your shoulderMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Huck-
Thanks for taking time to post your work. Great job!
Did you get paid?You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Still waiting for final payment - but in Calif. they're allowed to hold on to the last 10% for 30 days. Had to go back and spend two days with elec. tracing an elec. problem (with the existing house wiring, but it became our problem because we ran two outlets off an existing circuit). Lots of attic time. Fun.
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Edited 2/2/2009 9:44 am by Huck
Well Huck- I'm Dying to know. Tomorrow is 3/2- not quite 30 days. But did the relationship with this guy end amicably??I love the Craftsman style and this is an absolutely beautiful addition.
Thanks. He finally paid up, but withheld $600. I'll meet with him next week to collect that - I hope. Relatively amicable end. I hope I never have to see him again after that."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Congratulations on a job well done and thanks for such thorough and informative documentation of the process.
I hope the financial completion goes smoothly too.
So, what's next?
Looking good.Well as a good as room painted puke green can look <G>.Edit Scratch that. The last picture showed the overhead head.On the shower what is the 3 controls for?I am guessing flow control for the shower heads, but I only see 2..
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what is the 3 controls for?
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very nice huck, but pvc on an exposed drain? comon brother! :)
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won't the drain be insulated anyway to avoid burning the chair-bound son's legs?
On commercial projects I've had to do that, but the building dep't. didn't require it on this one. I discussed it with the plumber, and he said since it's not drawn that way on the plans, and its not required by code, and he didn't think water down the drain could be hot enough to burn someone through the pipe, he wasn't going to unless the h.o. requested it."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Huck,
Thanx for posting this job. You have put up with a lot.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
thank you!
Spent the morning in the attic, blowing insulation. Fun. At least THAT'S finally done!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Keep those pics handy in a folder so you can do a show-and-tell with the next tile guy who does not speak english.
Keep those pics handy in a folder so you can do a show-and-tell with the next tile guy who does not speak english.
hahahahaha - yeah, very few do anymore!
Today they grouted the glass block, and put the shower floor tiles in. Then took off until tomorrow, when the rest of their materials should be here. (do these guys ever order the right amount the first time?)View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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i'm in the middle of something......hahahaMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
you haven't read from the begining have you? (hidden metal bracket)
I did read about that, but it still seems like too much is hanging out there over nothing. Time will tell, I guess.
I've been quietly following along as well, great project and very interesting. As mostly a finish guy I was very impressed with some of the framing, made me want to go build a wall.
experience tells me that if you do not have support under the free corner, the tile will crack.
well, its been a concern of mine also. My tile guy says he does not think it'll be a problem. Its pretty doggone rigid, but as you say, time will tell."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Everything looks amazing. Your craftmanship and attention to detail is great.
what kind of wood is the trim? Is that a custom stain to match or something off the shelf? looks good.
Thanks. The trim is all red oak, stained a deep red to match. I think it's Old World Cherry, or something like that. It takes a couple applications to get it close to the deep red of the existing trim.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Spent the morning working on the "floating" countertop. My tile guy thought it was stiff enough, but I wanted to see if I could make it just a little more rigid, without going the corble route. Bascially built a torsion-type box, glued and nailed.View ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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This is where it sits down over the metal braceView ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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ready to mountView ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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man, that sucker is suprisingly stiff. Still the tiniest bit of deflection in the very corner with a strong weight applied - I'll see how it is tomorrow after the glue sets. View ImageView Image bakersfieldremodel.com
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jamb and sill extension for the bathroom windowView ImageView Image bakersfieldremodel.com
jamb & sill extension with casing applied (seen from the back)View ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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ready to nail it up (I stain the edges first, a little easier to do before nailing it up)View ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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the window before...View ImageView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Do the doors get damaged by roof water splashing off the pavement?
Right now I lean a sheet of plywood up when I leave. Next week, if the sun comes out, I hope to finish the front door. I think it is a pi$$-poor design when the front door is exposed to the weather, while the rest of the addition has porch all around.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
The two stains were readily apparent to me FWIW. More so on the exterior side, though that could just have been because of the lighting on the inside shot.And a belated thanks for the blocking info. That was very helpful.Keep up the good work!'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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View Image you know, after I wrote you about the blocking, I started paying attention to how much I use my clamps. I have a couple of these on the jobsite, and I use them a LOT when I'm doing pickup work, meaning miscellaneous blocking, backing, etc.
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Edited 11/12/2008 10:10 pm by Huck
Some days you just don't get much accomplished... Got this lockset in - but its defective, bent or poorly made, poor fit and finish maybe, anyway, I had to fight with it to get it in (it wouldn't sit flat on the door, had to clamp it to tighten the screws from the inside - and then the screw in lock cylinder didn't line up right, so it balked at going in), messed up the lock cylinder a little, probably have to replace it or the cap on it, anyway
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and then the ceiling fan motor was defective, and it was a discontinued model, so we had to replace the whole thing - which required cutting the strongback, adding blocking, and re-doing the duct. Lotta hassle for very little jobsite "progress".View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
stucco sub will lath tomorrowView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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My stucco sub sent out two lathers - brothers. Man, these guys are good. I mean their work is so perfect, it seems a shame to cover it up. Its unheard of for lathers and rockers (the substrate on the lid is for synthetic stucco, and its very similar to sheetrock) to work to these kind of tolerances. Its a real craftsman who takes care to do extra clean work when he knows it will be covered up.
All the subs have kept their work exceptionally clean on this job. Its been a pleasure to work with talented guys who care. The sparky said he doesn't work that clean on all his jobs, but he could see everyone else was on this one, so he did too. I like hearing that.
I haven't gotten rough inspection yet (waiting on a plumbing valve), but the inspector gave me the OK to wrap it - just don't insulate, he said.
I'll follow up with some pictures. The addition really was transformed by lathing it, even the grumpy homeowner who never says anything positive said "Its starting to look like something".
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Edited 11/14/2008 10:00 pm by Huck
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the south side will get cement board siding
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Huck whats teh advantage to using the foam on the walls?
Added R value?
I understand the densarmor for the lid that gets synthetic.
ML
Huck whats teh advantage to using the foam on the walls? Added R value? I understand the densarmor for the lid that gets synthetic.
Foam on the walls adds slightly to the r-value, and cuts down on labor cost, since a three-coat process becomes a two-coat process (instead of scratch coat, brown coat, color coat, now its just brown and color).
Synthetic one coat over foam is common here, but won't hold up to a baseball hitting it - its only 1/4" of "stucco".View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I like your work. Actually, it approaches art, failing to totally get there only because of the practical requirements.
I can imagine what you could do if you had an unlimited budget. Keep on truckin'!
you sir are too magnanimous!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
i remember that feature... the push buttons lock / unlock the door, same as the key
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those 2 bottom buttons ....lock / unlock
Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Edited 11/12/2008 8:49 pm ET by MikeSmith
man, wish you had been there yesterday!
BTW, Pella driver said they are slower than slow right now - pressuring all the drivers to make sales pitches too. Said they are family owned, no changes in ownership he's aware of.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
You young'uns 'll never learn about them ol'timey things, will you? :)
Finished up my one wall of Hardi-board. Did not enjoy working with it at all. View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Looks great!
Can we type "crusty boogers" here?A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.
Can we type "crusty boogers" here? Type it here? It should be written in large print on each piece of Hardi-plank: "WARNING - WORKING WITH THIS PRODUCT RESULTS IN CRUSTY BOOGERS"View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Curse you and your good work . . . got hooked and had to go over the rest of this post from October. Some of us have other things we should be doing, you know. ;)
Nice craft and documentation. Even the rough framing looks like it's meant to be exposed. Wish i'd read this earlier . . . that tip on securing blocking in place with some exposed nail tips would've saved me some clamping time this summer.
Curse you and your good work
A lot of people tell me I do good work...just not much of it! =)
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I HATE HARDY!!
Got started on insulatingView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
This door is coming out. It's gonna slow things down, waiting on the replacement, but what can I do?
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The reason I didn't get too far on the insulation is that I had to add washers on top of the washers. Code calls for 3" sq. washers, which come with a slotted hole (since the a.b.'s are often off-ctr., and the slot makes the washer adjustable to keep in within the wall). And the building inspector wrote me a correction notice because I didn't have washers on top of the washers. Which as you can see in this pic, was a pain in the rear to add on some of the a.b's. I drilled with an auger bit in a rt. angle drill, then chiseled the wood out of the way.View Image
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Edited 11/25/2008 1:49 am by Huck
Ready for rain (its in the forecast)
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The front door has stain and one coat of sealer, but I figure better safe than sorry.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
finished insulating, and got it inspectedView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
got a couple sheets of rock upView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
so far everything planes in with the old sheetrock. Man can you believe the cable wires that the cable guy ran? Every color of the rainbow, I think.
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this is the color the h.o. told me to get to match the garage doors - but it doesn't match! He says thats the right color, but time and dust have altered the appearance, Seems hard to believe. See what he says on Friday, after he's seen it. I think I oughtta mix some black in, and a little red, and try again.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I was surprised the pre-primed hardi-plank still took three coats to get a decent finish. Very high humidity today, so the paint wanted to sag.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I think the HO's memory is disserving him about what color was used before. That doesn't look like the results of time, dust, dirt, etc. It looks like a different color.
I wouldn't try to match it, unless you're particularly good at it. I know you're an artist, but even so, matching colors is not easy. If you have to, you can bring the old door (or something smaller, if you can find something) to the paint store and have them match it using their computer.
Get the HO's sign-off on the new color before doing another coat... and be sure to charge for it.
I think the HO's memory is disserving him about what color was used before.
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Funny thing - he's happy as a clam with it, doesn't want me to change a thing.
And sure enough, when you open the door and look at the edge of the door that never sees dust or daylight - the color match is right on.
Had a friend (a kid) help me with the sheetrock today. Worked a short day, kept him busy nailing to stay out of my way, but we got all the lids up, that was the main thing I wanted him for.
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Edited 11/28/2008 9:24 pm by Huck
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That looks like a big gap between those 2 pieces of drywall. When that happens to me, I pre-fill the gap with durabond before moving on to taping/spackling.
Very neat jobsite BTW. Even the insulation install looks fastidious.
That looks like a big gap between those 2 pieces of drywall.
HEY - quit lookin' so close, would ya! Now scat!
Troublemakers, sheesh!
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Edited 11/28/2008 9:48 pm by Huck
When that happens to me, I pre-fill the gap with durabond before moving on to taping/spackling.
Yeah, well, forget the durabond - photoshop works pretty good for me! =)View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
LOL. And here I thought you were building an addition in real life. How do we know that you're not just improving your trompe-l'oeil techniques to greater heights?
Huck,
Looks really good. Thanx for sharing.
I use a brace and auger bit for those deep mortices.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Well, since the customer won't give you any praise, I will. Everything looks fantastic to me. You're a master at your work. Funny though you should find hardi hard to work with. I think it's pretty easy. The other stuff you did, not so much.
Thank you, kind sir. Now I can finally tell people even the dam_inspector complimented my work! =)View Image “The compliment that helps us on our way is not the one that is shut up in the mind, but the one that is spoken out...
I can live for two months on a good compliment.†– Mark TwainCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I use a brace and auger bit for those deep mortices.
Thanks - could you elaborate? Have any pics? Do you chisel afterwards? If its a 3/4" lockset box what size bit do you use? I used a 3/4" bit, but had to sand inside to get the lockset in.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Huck-
Been watching from the beginning. Everything looks great. One question - why nails for the sheetrock? I use screws because of all the nail pops I see in houses with nailed sheetrock (even when it's all double nailed, old school style). Whatever the case, I think your work is top notch and I appreciate you putting it up for us to look at.
One question - why nails for the sheetrock?
Well, I don't have a really good answer for that. I have a bucket of drywall nails I wanted to use up...and I use nails for hanging anyway, and I've never had any real problems with nail pops...and, uh....View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I am kinda surprised that you are doing the drywall after the stucco.
When we did similar addition project (quite larger, tho, masterbed and bath, laundry, and greatroom) our drywall crew was not able to make the schedule before the stucco guys. So GC had O'Niell and I sheetrock all the exterior walls and two feet in on the ceilings before the stucco guys got there (whew!).
Just wondering.
Still enjoying this documentary of your job!
Keep up the good work.
(Always love how tidy your jobsite is, because that was always one of my assignments.)
Not sure if I will ever get it right, but I will continue to roll that marble around my pea-brain until I figure it out. ~ me
I am kinda surprised that you are doing the drywall after the stucco.
Stucco has not been done yet. What you are seeing in the pics is 1" foam with chicken-wire, over which we will brown and color coat (the foam takes the place of the scratch coat). I prefer to stucco after the sheetrock, but in this case I have no choice - the h.o. is making me replace a door (Pella door came with unusually high threshold, and he doesn't like it), and I can't stucco until the new door arrives, and is installed.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Sorry, apparently, I'm not paying attention.
Also, sorry to hear about the door issue. Hope you don't end up eating that one.
Still, if I lived closer, I'd beg to work for you.
Not sure if I will ever get it right, but I will continue to roll that marble around my pea-brain until I figure it out. ~ me
sorry to hear about the door issue. Hope you don't end up eating that one.View Image
Thanks. I won't eat the cost of the door, since I ordered what the plans spec'd, but I will eat the cost of removing this one, and installing the new one. But I volunteered for that, since the new door is costing the h.o. about 1100.00 (Pella is giving it to him "at cost"), which he is not happy about at all. And I will eat the "cost" of the delay, and my time involved in resolving the issue, which is not unsubstantial.
Seems there are two real problems at work in this case:
1) Pella "improved" their threshold design for weatherproof purposes, and their door now comes with a steeply angled 2 1/2" threshold with a deep (cr*p-collecting) channel that drains out a weep-grid in the threshold...and the salesman didn't know about this change when he sold me the door; and
2) Pella offers a "handicap" model with lower threshold for wheelchair users, but the salesman neglected to explain this option when I met with him...even 'though I explained that the addition was for the h.o.'s wheelchair-bound son.
regarding 1: My local Pella contact admits that the new threshold is pretty unpopular, and that no one knew it was going to be so noticeably uncomfortable (I find myself tripping on it frequently as I walk in and out). The finish floor is to be glue-down carpet, which raises the finish floor level very little. View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
"And I will eat the "cost" of the delay, and my time involved in resolving the issue, which is not unsubstantial."
Ouch. Sorry to hear that.
(One of these days, I'd love to see you post some of your artwork beside just the murals, which are great! I am just pretty sure you have a house full of your more formal artwork...we had an artwork thread years ago..hmm, where did that go?
You have done a great job with this thread, thanks for taking the time, you have many fans.
Not sure if I will ever get it right, but I will continue to roll that marble around my pea-brain until I figure it out. ~ me
I'd love to see you post some of your artwork beside just the murals
How nice of you to ask! Here's a linkView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Really, really nice work there, Neal.
Thanks for the link.
Not sure if I will ever get it right, but I will continue to roll that marble around my pea-brain until I figure it out. ~ me
I had a welder fabricate this brace for me - it will hold the countertop so that a wheelchair could get under it at this end. It is lag screwed to the stud with 5/16" lags, and it is solid.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
sheetrock is almost done... Man, I don't hang rock as quick as I used to in my younger days!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I try to keep things neat, but this little room gets cluttered pretty quick during the day.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
greenboard is now purpleboard. And naturally I forgot the shower had to be m.r. when I ordered rock, so I've gotta buy a few more sheets (this was leftover from another job), and I've got too many big scraps left of the regular rock - and now I know why!View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Don, this one's for you. Mixed up some hot mud, and filled the gap. (I figure if it bothered you, it might be bothering my super-fussy h.o.)View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I feel honored (and maybe a little self-concious to have even mentioned such a small nit), but carry on... it's looking good.
How could you forget the greenboard in the Greene & Greene addition? ;)Looking great. What's going to happen in the shower area?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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tile walls and ceiling in the shower areaView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Sorry, I meant were you going to be using Kerdi on the walls?Really like some of your logo work by the way.And don't let that HO get you down. You've got some great work that we are all appreciating here!'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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My tile guy floats a cement base (over lath) on the walls, and a membrane on the floorView ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Very interesting. Thanks.So you've got something akin to a mudbed on the walls instead of the floor. Is that common on the west coast?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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No, its very uncommon. My tile guy is old school, and a real craftsman. He sets some screed boards, and floats to his screed boards. That way the walls are dead on flat and straight. Most guys just nail cement board to the studs, and tile over that. Which isn't bad, as long as the studs are pretty straight. He also does a mudbed on the floor, over the membrane.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
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neal....
i liked them all, but this one caught my eye
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thanks, its a handpainted reproduction of The Laundress - one of my favorites by Henri de Toulouse Lautrec - one of my favorite artistsView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Boy, did it ever!!!The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
I passed my drywall nailing and lathing inspection today - and threw a first coat of mud up (and tape). Didn't quite finish before quittin' time, but almost.View Image
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Edited 12/3/2008 10:13 pm by Huck
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Ouch. Sorry to hear that.
It kinda got ugly today. He called out of the blue and asked me to go by Pella and give them a check for $500 deposit for the new door. I said sure, you want to write me a check for $500, then I'll go write them one? He said No, you write them one. I think its more your fault that mine, since you're a "construction professional", and I'm not.
Huh?
My reply was basically NO WAY. I ordered what the plans called for, and what he requested. If he wanted a specific model, then it should have been specified ON THE PLANS.
So he said he'd write them the check, "and we can discuss this further next time I see you."
I was P.O.'d all day, got little done.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
i don't know why people are so short sighted... they lose track of their goals
i had a customer lose it with me... i had a long quiet talk with him... reminded him why he had hired me
that we were a team
how i needed to know that he had my back
or.... were we going to slip into an adversarial relationship ?
i asked him to think about our conversation
he did..
and we got back on track
in your case... i smell another voice whispering in his ear... offering advice...pitting him against you.... has he acted similar in other instances ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Yeah, definitely. He has an attorney messenger service. He was talking like he was going to sue Pella. My guess is one of his attorney buddies told him he didn't have a case, try to see if you can get the contractor to pay for it. - since he (I) ordered the door he is unhappy with.
I double checked the plans. All it says is 3-0 8-0 door. He said get Pella to match the rest of the house. So I had the Pella salesman out to the job, said this is for the h.o.'s handicap son, and he wants to match the existing doors.
Now he's unhappy with the high threshold, wants me to buy him a different door (the handicap model, with low threshold).
This is after he thanked me for being "very gracious" in not charging him for the change-out, saying he wouldn't blame me if I did.
He's a strange cat, for sure.
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Well, just buy the door. And charge him $500 for the change.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Mike - I really appreciate your post. I thought about it a lot, and it put me in a different frame of mind. Today I went in wondering if we could get back on the same team. He avoided me when he left for work, so I called him at his office.
I said Look, there is another option. I won't charge you to take the door and jamb out, and we'll just have it rebuilt with a lower threshold. Probably cost $3-4 hundred, vs. 1100. Just put a stop payment on your check to Pella. It'll probably void any warranty, but we won't have to order the expensive door, wait for it to get here, etc.
He said he'd talk it over with his wife tonight.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
So now that I told him I could rebuild the door frame with a different threshold for a fraction of the replacement cost, he's like No, thats OK, we'd rather order an outswing door and wait for it to arrive.
Oh yeah, better to order exactly what you want now that you've changed your mind about the original door you wanted - but couldn't resist trying to get me to pay for it!
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Edited 12/11/2008 10:00 am by Huck
Are you going to get this door pre-mortised, or do it in the field again?
Its not the front door, its the back door - comes pre-mortised from PellaView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Wow that dosent seem right for him to have that attitude. Have you any other problems with his outlook on things? Maybe not (people in general tend to talk about negitive things) but he sounds like a little bit of a PIA.
BTW looks the project looks great, I was impressed by the timber look on the gable and rafters, its refreshing to see something like this thats a little different. I also really like the ceiling, nice way to do something with plain ole drywall. I noticed your drywall gap too and was going to ask because in the pics it looks like it was intentional and on every joint.
Yes, his outlook on life is very bitter and unhappy. He never smiles, never gives a compliment, talks to his wife like she is an irritating moron (she is a schoolteacher and a very nice lady, quiet and meek as a mouse...around him. But I've seen her with her friends when he wasn't around - totally different person, laughing, joking, confident and outgoing)
I cut him some slack because his son went from straight-A college student to basically a vegetable in a wheelchair, when he was sideswiped by a diesel rig. That's tough for anyone to deal with.
But he gets really weird about money, and I told him that I have absorbed an inordinate amount of unforeseen extras due to poor blueprints on this job, and am not about to pony up 1100 for something that is no way my fault, when I'm already eating the cost of remove and replace, and hours on the phone between him, local Pella salesman, and Pella district sales manager, and a total wrench in the gears to my schedule.
Drywall gap is intentional. I find the joints are stronger when there is room for joint compound between the sheets. Been doing it that way for 25 years, haven't had a problem or a callback yet. I usually go for 1/4 to 3/8, but if I ended up with a full inch (I never do) it wouldn't matter to me, if its properly taped and finished I'll warranty it like the rest of my work. Tight sheets don't allow for enough mud, in my opinion. For a couple of years all I did was drywall repairs - "when the patch has to match".
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Edited 12/2/2008 11:25 pm by Huck
Thanks for the explination. I can understand your customer, because I worked for a guy just like that for three years. Although he didnt have a reason to be that way, I knew his mother and she was the same exact way.
I guess I was always taught to put drywall tight. So thats what I go with. I take it you must use one of the mix it your self "hot " muds for at least the first coat? People dont do that around here usless the situation dosent allow you to avoid a gap somewhere. With the green top buckets if you have a gap the tape will sag or bubble where the gap is its not "hard" enough. If there is a large gap will fill with durabond 90 first let it dry then go regular mud/tape. I suppose it could be argued either way so as long as the results are the same its no matter. Maybe you found your way to be more durable but I cant see it. Keep it up and hope you stay busy, thanks
Dan- not a fan of muddin
I've always put drywall tight too, but I was never "taught" how to do it, I just assumed it was the right way. However, whenever it happens that there's a gap (usually, no more than 1/4"), I've pre-filled them with Durabond before taping and I'm always surprised how solid the joint becomes even without tape.
Which way is better? It could probably be argued either way, but I think I'll start leaving a small gap if I know I'll have enough time on the job to take the extra step of pre-filling with hot mud.
Maybe you found your way to be more durable but I cant see it.
try this: take two pieces of wood, clamp them tight and dry, then spread glue over the joint.
Next take two other pieces, smear glue on the joining edges, then clamp them, but not as tight - don't squeeze all the glue out. But what does squeeze out, spread over the joint just like the first two.
Let them dry, and see which joint is stronger.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Point taken. I havent ever thought of compound as like a glue that stiffens up a structure (the drywall) I will have to consider it for the future. Although Im only on board in theory right now because I still am having trouble seeing that its worth the time. But thats why I come here to gain knowledge like this-- thanks
DAN
It is a glue - a strong one. But it doesn't stiffen the drywall, it stiffens the joint. It doesn't take any longer, less actually, because drywall goes in a little quicker when you have some fudge room around the edges. Not a lot, about 1/4 inch is good. Just run some mud before embedding your tape - which you should do anyway.
I tried to get it tight too, until a professional rocker showed me how its done, and why.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I asked the stucco guy, who also does drywall. He says he hangs his drywall tight. So its different strokes for different folks I guess. He says he heard its stronger to leave a gap, but he doesn't do it.
Got a little more mud on today.View ImageView Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Very nice work, and I admire your devotion to the documentation. I have a hard time following through so diligently.
I admire your devotion to the documentation. I have a hard time following through so diligently
honestly, I'm really just playing hookey from a bunch of other stuff I should be doing! (like yardwork, or finishing the myriads of half-completed projects on my own home)View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Yeah but I play hookey from all that stuff too and still can't do the documentation.
Huck,
Job is looking great. Sorry to hear about the door. I don't think most H.O. realize just how much something like this can add to a job and the schedule.
I have'nt really studied the threshold but if it's on a slab would it be possible to cut and grind out the concrete and drop or recess the threshold down. I realize you would have to move the whole unit down but this would actually make it easier for the wheelchair.
A saw, rotory drill and cup grinder and a little creativity would take maybe an hr. or so to do the recess.
I done something similar to this once and it worked out better than I would have thought.
Just thought I'd toss the idea out there.
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good piece of work... my back and shoulders aches just looking at it
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my square tube insert
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And then taking the Pella door out. Holy cow, you would not believe how hard it was to get that door out. I hate taking my own work apart! It was in there like a rusted bolt in an engine block! View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Pull all those staples (man those suckers don't come out easy), peel the wire back, cut the foam, back the screws out of the flange, peel the flange back to break the caulking seal, cut the expanded insulating foam, back the screws out of the jamb, then pry the threshold off the slab (I used a butyl rubber sealant, and no kidding, it WOULD NOT LET GO - almost tore the bottom off the door, took three pry bars simultaneously to get it up. I had no idea.
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Finally!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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There was virtually no slop (5 and half feet of post went up inside the old post), but just to be sure everyone behaved while I was setting the booger in concrete, I drove some shims in to hold it extra tight. You know, just in case! This gate and post-in-a-post combined make one heavy sukkah!!
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Edited 1/3/2009 3:14 pm by Huck
ready, aim, ...View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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...fire! (the hole is about 1/4 filled with concrete)View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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hard to believe, but seven 50 lb. sacks of concrete went in that little hole (I didn't want this thing to move, with that heavy gate hanging off it).
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like nothing ever happenedView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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so you know, and I knew, that after the concrete set up, and I pulled all that support out from under the gate, there would be some deflection. But no way of knowing how much. And the thing is set in stone, as they say. So I checked the other gate - virtually no deflection. But that's the small one - this is the large gate, and I had to take a guess, and hope for the best. Because there is a latch, and a lockset, and they gotta line up for this thing to work.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Well done!
Did it come out okay?
Did it come out okay?
I guessed 3/8" deflection in 7' 6", and came within a 1/16"! (shown here after all the support was pulled). Whew, that was stressful!View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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took down the temporary enclosureView Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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You have done such a great job of documenting this "endevour" (lol, sorry).
I am truely surprised that FHB has not picked up on it.
I am truely surprised that FHB has not picked up on it.
They have - we're on their website, silly."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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The new Pella door. Call me crazy, but I got everything ready and couldn't install it. Decided to wait for the h.o. to get back from the Bahamas on Monday, and sign off on it before installing. That last one was just TOO MUCH work taking out.View Image"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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Silly is right...sorry.
Watcha gonna do next? Another mural?
Not out of the woods yet on this one. Meet with h.o. Monday, he took off for a week without leaving a check for extra tile work, so I sent the tile guys home. This is all stuff he agreed to pay for, but I'm not proceeeding until he does. May be some fireworks, since he's already explained that I'm making too much money, and he doesn't see why he has to pay for any extras.
I've still got to install the new door and hardware, trim the door and adjacent window, run the baseboard, make some custom gable vents, finish paint (inside and out) and stain throughout, install the alarms, patch the drywall behind the alarm guys, insulate the attic, pour the patio, color coat the stucco, finish the tile, set electrical and plumbing finish, glue-down carpet, grab bars and misc - and some kind of metal ramp for the 2" step-up at the front door threshold.
edited to add: and the hardest part of all: getting paid for it all!
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Edited 1/3/2009 12:57 am by Huck
Depending on the frequency of usage, my experience tells me that gate assembly is going to sag before long. I don't say this to criticize. I have done enough gates over time that I just want to make a point.
The good thing is that if the customer does not pay you in full, he will be stuck with a door that binds eventually. Then he will be after you for a fix and the shoe will be on the other foot.
If I were to install the same gate, I would dig a trench and weld a steel beam between the gate posts at the base. I would encase this in concrete. As long as the soil beneath is adequately compacted, this would be a bulletproof method. Maybe you will find this solution easier as a fix if he gets back to you. Sometimes a solution that appears more radical is actually faster, better, and easier to implement.
Once, in Korea, I waited all winter as a contractor installed some Instrument Landing System mounts at the end of a runway. The clock was ticking as the installation team was due to arrive in the spring.
Pressure was on and, when the contractor turned over the work for payment, his installation was about a foot off of the centerline of the runway. We only had about ten days left.
I had my guys rip everything out with heavy equipment and dig a trench ten feet deep across the end of the RW where the installation needed to be. Then we hauled in a couple loads of gravel and compacted it like a road with a roller. It looked kind of like a trench used to herd cattle into a pen.
Meanwhile, my other guys welded up about a dozen rebar cages for the new mounts. The carpenters built a wooden frame to fit over the trench and the surveyors determined the placement. We placed cardboard tubes in the wooden frame, suspended the rebar inside, poured, and backfilled around the tubes all in two days. Next day, the wood was removed and the site was ready for the installation team with time to spare. The whole thing was less expensive, faster, and easier than what the contract had called for. Needless to say, I was not the one who designed the original solution.
Only one person (my boss) trusted my design. He convinced the other leadership to let me use my method and they caved only because they were out of time and desperate. My point is that sometimes the radical solution is the easiest one.
Well, I guess I have wandered a bit.
View ImageDepending on the frequency of usage, my experience tells me that gate assembly is going to sag before long...
If I were to install the same gate, I would dig a trench and weld a steel beam between the gate posts at the base. I would encase this in concrete. As long as the soil beneath is adequately compacted, this would be a bulletproof method.
In a perfect world, I might choose the same solution. It did occur to me right off the bat, as an obvious, although somewhat expensive, solution. And while at it, I would have liked a new gate built that was made to the size of my opening, so I didn't have to angle it. My solution is a compromise. Remember, this is a client that wouldn't pay for slide-out shelves for his handicapped son.
I do think you're wrong about sagging, and here's why: The post sits in a unique situation - there is an underground "curb" on both sides, and on the side adjacent the chain link fence, not only is there a curb below the surface, it turns 90 degrees at that corner. So I'm wedged up against some pretty strong support.
Plus, the gate/post assembly is very heavy, but most the weight is in the post. 3/16" square tube steel post 8' long inside a square tube steel post of 3/16" steel 5 1/2' long (the steel posts are so heavy that when I first lifted them, I thought they were filled with concrete!) - the gate itself isn't all that heavy. I don't claim to be right every time, so time and usage will tell.
"The good thing is that if the customer does not pay you in full, he will be stuck with a door that binds eventually." I know you mean well by your comment, and as much as I don't like this guy, I just don't operate that way.
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Edited 1/3/2009 12:48 pm by Huck
Just two things-1) I'm in awe of the work- your attention to detail makes my type-A personality wince. 2) I admire your character and dedication to your work, even when working with less than accommodating clients. Many (present company included) would be thinking of buttoning up, getting the he!! out of a bad situation, and getting whatever funds I could ASAP. But you just keep on keeping on working just as hard on the details as before things went south. I know that's hard to do- and I respect it out of anyone I know or work with. It sounds like it's just your style, but that doesn't make the situation any easier to deal with.The addition is gorgeous.
Edited 1/3/2009 2:04 pm ET by frontiercc2
Thank you for your kind words. It is hard, and I struggle with discouragement every day. Since I am often alone most or all of the day, it becomes an internal battle, within myself. And in my own way, I am thinking of "buttoning up, getting the he!! out of a bad situation, and getting whatever funds I could ASAP".
But I bid this to build it on my own terms, and would like to finish on my own terms. The pay is necessary, but if I focus on the probability of getting $crewed, I won't be able to go on. So I try to push it out of my mind, and focus on the work at hand. But I pay a price. One of which is, being in a deep funk of lately, which has my wife concerned.
Of work - there is still quite a little bit. Maybe a week and half's worth? I hope not more than that. But he continues to create loggerheads, all the while complaining that work is progressing too slowly!
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Edited 1/3/2009 2:55 pm by Huck
You might be worrying over nothing. Don't give in, keep on truckin. He'll pay up at the end.
I think you are right when you say the key is to focus on the work. You started this job with optimism. You even started a thread with pics. Somehow, the HO has taken that away from you. Get it back. Don't let him blow your mind.
When you step in something, you are not thinking about the dog. You are thinking about what is on your shoe and how uncool it is that this has happened to you. Clean off your shoe, continue your walks, and understand that dogs do what dogs do. Try not to step in it again. Most of us have to step in it many times before we learn to avoid it most of the time.
I have worried about what would get me in the end for years. I feel good physically, but am worried about a lot of the chemicals I was exposed to in my career. Lung cancer worries me because until 21 years ago, I smoked. Also, the exposure to asbestos during my career scared me. Other chemicals I got to know intimately could cause pancreatic cancer. That was my biggest worry. It has a fairly limited response to treatment at this time. Agent Orange is another worry. The list goes on, but I will stop at this point.
At noon on the Saturday before Thanksgiving, I developed a severe pain in my abdomen. By 10 pm, I decided I really had to go to the ER. Early the next morning, Sunday, a foot of my colon was removed. Diverticulitis had caused a puncture in the colon. Although over 50% of all Americans develop diverticulitis in their 50's or 60's, and some have severe problems, I was not expecting this. It came out of the blue, so to speak. It was not on my list of worries. So now I am recovering. I feel like I stepped in something and didn't even know it. My previous worries seemed small by comparison. If I had been out somewhere where I could not have gotten to a doctor, I would be dead.
My response was to get back into my routine and get strong and healthy because I know more things will come out of the blue in the future. I will surely step in it again, mainly because it is everywhere. But for now, I am not concentrating on the dog that did it. I am focused on my next walk.
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Edited 1/3/2009 6:19 pm ET by Sasquatch
Thanks, and to Dam_Inspector also. Sorry to hear about your health issues, growing old is no picnic, is it? I wish you a speedy recovery.
Its not so much I worry about the money, as it is the effects of dealing with a very negative personality."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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"Its not so much I worry about the money, as it is the effects of dealing with a very negative personality."
Man, do I know that feeling. It'll suck the life out of you if you let it.
The best way I know to get through it is to remember that that jerk has to deal with that negative personality (himself) all day, every day of his life. I usually end up feeling sorry for them in the long run.
That, and don't take any ####, of course ;)
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I hope you are right. My comment did not imply that he should be stuck with the problem. The whole message was that the shoe would be on the other foot and that he would have to deal with you from a less elevated perch. Right now it seems like he is standing on a base of disapproval and playing you for a few dollars. He vacations in the Bahamas and messes with you for a few hundred.
Right now it seems like he is standing on a base of disapproval and playing you for a few dollars.
It feels that way to me. I think this is sport for him. Its food on my family's table to me. And he acts surprised when I get angry for catching his hand in my wallet pocket."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
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And he acts surprised when I get angry for catching his hand in my wallet pocket.
Treat him like a pick pocket then and smack the #### out of him! ;)