I usually post questions about my kitchen in CT but wanted to come here for this one:
My range hood vent duct is inside a cupboard. There is a little extra room in front of the in the duct and I keep a couple things in the cupboard. There is a gap of about an inch between the duct and the hole in the ceiling through which it travels to get to the roof. It is quite a bit colder in that cupboard than it is in the rest of the kitchen. I am tempted to try to fill the gap with spray foam. Will that work? Would something else (that an ameteur can handle) work better?
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I'll tell ya if you tell me if I can use a pizza stone with frozen pizza or only fresh dough?
Foam is MESSY over head, I'd try the FOIL TAPE available at home centers to close off as much as you can first, then squirt the foam in.
Or use EZ Cheese...(G)
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Can you use generic cheese whiz or does it need to be that gourmet brand.
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The way I heard it, if you do a frozen pizza you put it on the baking stone cold, and put them in the oven together.
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>>.... a frozen pizza you put it on the baking stone cold, and put them in the oven together.<<
In retrospect, that would be the smart way.......
Hot stone + frozen pizza = cracked stone + highly agitated, aggravated DW.
Don't ask how I know that.
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Well, I just did a hot stone , frozen pizza for lunch. PERFECT.
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We put frozen pizza on our hot "stone" all the time -- never a problem.
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Some folks have all the luck......I had done it a bunch of times also.........
Just like I told my wife after it broke:
"THE CATS DID IT!"
After the cats broke the stone, I went to the local kitchen store for a replacement (darn cats!), the clerk told me that it was a no-no, of course she was also selling the perfect solution - a new stone for DW and a expanded metal pizza pan for frozen.
Two people break or mess up everything in our house their names are - "Not me" and "I don't know."
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Well, I just did a hot stone , frozen pizza for lunch. PERFECT.
Toldja.
Glad it worked out. Didja make yerself a wooden pizza paddle to get it outta the oven?
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Parchment's great stuff but $$$. You won't wanna do that forever.
When you're dealing with fresh, home-made pizza, the hard part is transferring the uncooked pie to the stone 'cause it's got all the structural integrity of a mess of uncured foam. For that you need a wood paddle. The pizza is made directly on it, then jiggled and shook gently until it slides off onto the stone.
You can use the paddle to remove it from the oven, too, but if you do this a lot you oughta buy a metal pizza shovel from a restaurant supply house. It's easier. Also a real pizza cutter instead of the happy-homemaker models ya get in da local housewares sto'. Like the diff between a 9v Firestorm drill and a Bosch Bulldog....
Next time we're in the same place at the same time--or if I ever get HS internet and can upload a video--and if ya don't already know--I'll show ya how to throw the dough.
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Then there was the time - long ago now- that I tried to speed up the de-frost process one winter morning by throwing a up of hot water on the windshield.Whoever thought water could make such a loud noise?
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I would put the frozen pizza onto a piece of parchment paper then preheat my oven. Give the stone/oven at least 30 minutes to get hot. By then the temp of the bottom of the dough should not be a problem for your stone. Use a peel if you have one to slide the parchment and pizza onto the stone. If you don't have a peel you can put the parchment/pizza onto the bottom of a cookie sheet and use that to help you slide it into your stone.
I'd use the foam but mask the area, and wear your shower cap to keep from getting it in your hair.
Can has to be held upside down, so it can be tricky overhead, You can add some plastic tubing or even a drinking straw with duct tape to extend your reacch
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Thanks for your input. I snitch shower caps from hotels to cover bowls while yeast dough rises so I actually have some!
I snitch shower caps from hotels
A hotel towels stuffed into the annular space would work good too!
BTW, Have not bought bath soap for about 20 years - always bring home the unwrapped extra soaps. And sewing kits. And coffee.
As an employee of a motel, I'd have to say I take offense at that.(-:
Have not bought bath soap for about 20 years - always bring home the unwrapped extra soaps. And sewing kits. And coffee.
I would imagine that you have a pretty good supply of bibles, too...:)
I never take towels! Only shower caps and sewing kits if they're available, occasionally a pen or pad, and opened bottles of lotion and conditioner.
Also, I travel with my own coffee and a corkscrew.
That spray foam is going to be a mess.
I'd look for some type of weatherstripping at a hardware store. If the opening is really an inch wide, maybe some water pipe insulation as it's larger.
Why can't you get into your attic?
Keep an extra corkscrew in the car.
That spray foam is going to be a mess.
Everybody keeps saying that and they're mostly right, but there is a way to do it. You need a foam gun--available from about $40 on up or possibly rentable--and a can of gun foam and gun cleaner. The gun foam can mounts on the gun upside down so it will work, and the guns usually come with a couple of foot-long plastic feed tubes that you can use to squirt the foam in any direction you like.
You'd have to build a sort of 'form' out of cardboard or corroplast or duct tape of a combination thereof, to contain the foam until it cures, then squirt the foam in through a small opening in the form. Otherwise it will drool out and fulfill everyones' prophesies....
Personally, if I didn't already have a gun I'd just stuff some old underpants or socks or something up there and call it done.
;0)
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I've abandoned the spray foam idea and will be stuffing something, probably egg crate foam from an old mattress pad or bubble wrap.
BTW - you can buy a lifetime supply of parchment paper at webrestaurantstore.com for less than $20 including shipping.
Edited 12/1/2009 2:32 pm ET by cyalexa
I do a lot of cooking and baking here, so a 'lifetime supply' might be more than you think! A 100-foot roll usually lasts me under a year.
But I will definitely check out that website; yet another place for me to moon over stuff I probably can't afford.... Thanks. ;0)
Dinosaur
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I can get into my attic but getting to the area over the kitchen would require more effort than I am willing to expend. We have added onto the house twice and the additions are not in a straight line. To get from one area to another almost requires slithering on ones belly through the opening. I would rather have foam in my hair! Seriously, I've abandoned the foam idea and will look at the types of insulation at the home store next time I go into town, although I am intrigued by the bubble wrap idea. My goal is to merely keep the unheated attic air from settling into the cupboard through the gap around the duct.
I keep my travel corkscrew in my suitcase along with a vacuum type recorker.
What's a recorker? :)
A special rubber cork through which a pump can suck air, resulting in a vacuum. I made up the word "recorker". Sorry it was unclear.
Right on Junk!<<BTW, Have not bought bath soap for about 20 years - always bring home the unwrapped extra soaps. And sewing kits. And coffee.>>Every time I read one of your posts I realize HEY, I DO THAT TOO.
I am NOT the only one.Thanks,
Jim x 3
BTW, probably have donated a few hundred bibles TO hotels via Gideons.....
Have even left a few beers a month in hotels since TSA no liquids rules, seem to always buy a fe more than I drink....
So do you leave the beer in the same drawer as the Bible?
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can't remember the brand (great stuff?), but up here HD sells a can of foam that works upside down.
Can you get to the opening from the attic?
If you can tape the bottom of the opening to keep foam from leaking out then foam it from above it's les likely to be messy.
I cannot get to it from the attic but thanks for your input.
You can use the spray foam, but as others have said it's extremely messy and whatever it gets on, it won't come off (at least not without damage). So if you use spray foam, cover the floor with plastic, the stove with plastic, the bottom of the cabinet with plastic, and any woodwork withing 4 feet with plastic. And have some old rags and a roll of paper towels handy, along with some pieces of cardboard to use as scrapers if you have to move a big blob of the stuff. Wear rubber gloves unless you're not planning to be seen in public for 3-4 days.
You can seal off the area with cardboard and duct tape (the foil kind is best) and either leave it at that or punch holes in the cardboard and feed the foam nozzle through to foam the area. (Holes about every 4" around the perimeter.)
Hi DanH. Thanks for your reply. Just so happens I always have latex gloves available in the kitchen.
And don't forget the shower cap!
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I have those too, courtesy of Marriott!
Roll up a piece of scrap carpet pad or foam packaging material, even the bubble wrap stuff, and jamb it into the space - no muss, no fuss.
Or a piece of old garden hose,
Or, even siimply duct tape over the gap.
Last thing I'd try would be spray foam overhead in a finished kitchen, if you do, lay down lots of newspaper!
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Have seen the cheeze sticks in the market also, a couple of them stuffed in that ther crack would harden up in a few weeks to a nice seal.
I'd worry about the mice eating it away though <G>
"Last thing I'd try would be spray foam overhead"Yeah, but this is a woman, not a junkhound, LOL They work neater than guys do
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you mad at her???
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I'm just sharing my opine.I know I could do it just fine. done so before!
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If I were mad at her, I'd tell her to prep the can by tumbling it in the clothes dryer for about ten or fifteen minutes before using it, LOL
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that's cold....
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For anybody, man or woman, with zero experience; a can of Great Stuff will be an "interesting" adventure. Practice somewhere else first. Cover all your skin and wear nothing of future value.
I would consider covering the opening with plastic tape, then punching one or more holes in the tape to insert the nozzle and inject the foam.
In addition to masking everything and wearing a hat - make sure the cat is confined to another room!
Good luck.
Thanks for the great ideas. I have some carpet scraps and lots of bubble wrap. Should I also wrap the portion of the duct in the cupboard or is that overkill?
If you use foam, get the minimal expansion type so you don't crush the exhaust duct. You could stuff the gap with fiberglass insulation.
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Thanks for your reply. I don't have any fiberglass insulation so am thinking I will try to stuff and seal with carpet and/or eggcrate foam and/or bubble wrap. I have good quality duct tape to finish the job and hide my amateur efforts.