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cultured stone over plywood

Coastalredwood | Posted in General Discussion on January 31, 2005 06:18am

Most of my perimeter foundation is concrete, but part of the downhill side is plywood shear wall. I want to cover the entire exterior with cultured stone (or stucco stone).

I plan to use two layers of paper over the plywood and stick on a wide boundry of self-stick rubber fllashing over the vertical transition. Then staple expanded metal lath on to the plywood, with a several-inch overlap over the concrete. When the mortar is troweled on, how thick should it be? I expect to taper mortar out over the concrete for a couple feet to disquise the change in substrate.

What sort of staple, and nailing pattern is recommended to fasten the expanded lath; and how thick should the mortar be troweled on as a base for adhering the stone?


Edited 1/30/2005 10:27 pm ET by Bob

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  1. rez | Feb 04, 2005 06:12am | #1

    Greetings Bob, Welcome to Breaktime.

    This post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again.

    Perhaps it will catch someones attention that can help you with advice.

    Cheers

     

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      IMERC | Feb 04, 2005 06:30am | #3

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      proud member of the FOR/FOS club...

      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

      WOW!!!   What a Ride!

      1. rez | Feb 04, 2005 05:23pm | #5

        The indicia on the first print run of FHB #153 contains data recommending a technique of exploring the folder column of Breaktime's 2nd reference page found to the immediate left on, not off, the monitor display screen.

        At this time you may run your vision down that same left side of the screen, past the top tool bar, past the Taunton masthead, past the 'post new' and your vunderful vunderful 'advanced search' that you like to use to make yourself think you are really on the jazz with something better instead of the EZ method found on the bottom of the lower left.

        Continuing down past the 'Show Discussion' display we find the beginning of the folder listings per example 'General Discussion' or 'Tools for Homebuilding' if you would prefer.

        Now beneath each of those individual folder heading will be a several digit number followed by the abbrev. 'Msgs' in a purplish mauve color.

        Upon clicking this number you will discover, after scrolling down a tad, a full listing of previous threads that had been posted under that folder heading back to time immoral.

        However, not all those threads are immediately available without continuing a scroll down, down, down to the bottom depths near the notorious EZ search method.

        Found above the EZ search bar by about 2 inches will be the blue lettered answer to the quest, 'Next 50', and upon clicking there one will see a listing of the previous 50 threads of that particular folder open before him for his viewing pleasure.

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        I'm thinking upon reaching the last of the 'Next 50' thread collections may be where the beginning of the archives begin but this I do not know.

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        And that my dear IMERC, is what a good cup of java and a midwinter blase' shidazz attitude can give you. 

        be a 'Next 50'

         

         

        Edited 2/4/2005 9:34 am ET by rez

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          IMERC | Feb 04, 2005 06:28pm | #6

          BUT...BUT...BUT...BUT..... EZ search = copper pipe sizes...

          never misses...

          proud member of the FOR/FOS club...

          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

          WOW!!!   What a Ride!

          1. rez | Feb 04, 2005 07:01pm | #7

            IMERC, what do you care if the intro page comes up copper pipe it changes once you click a post.

            Besides, Taunton has been generous to you.

            Type IMERC in the EZ sezrch bar and they let your name run 500 posts before they cut you off in the middle of........2004! ROAR!

              

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          CapnMac | Feb 04, 2005 11:12pm | #8

          heading back to time immoral.

          Ooh, that sounds like fun, when was time immoral again?  Or, is that the "wishfull thinking" I keep being accused of engaging in . . . ?Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

          1. rez | Feb 05, 2005 02:18am | #9

            Ya, had something to do with what IMERC said when he was talking about some Texas libraians somewhere. 

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            CapnMac | Feb 07, 2005 08:22pm | #10

            about some Texas libraians somewhere

            "Immoral Librarians" sounds like a tape you set down to the "brown bag" video store . . . <g>

            Or a big-time Dalhart headline "Immoral Time for Librarians" . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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    IMERC | Feb 04, 2005 06:29am | #2

    What sort of staple,...... I prefer a lath screw   that a SM bodied screw with a really large washered head...

    and nailing pattern is recommended to fasten the expanded lath;.... tight.. at least 8"OC and more if the lath is loose in spots... make the lath snug but loose enough o that the scratch coat gets behind the wire...

    and how thick should the mortar be troweled on as a base for adhering the stone?..... bury the lath by 3/8 to a 1/2"....

    proud member of the FOR/FOS club...

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!!   What a Ride!

  3. kestrel | Feb 04, 2005 07:41am | #4

    Hi Bob,

    We used roofing nails with 3/4" fender washers nailed 6-8" apart on the studs and a few in the centers to keep the lathe flat.  The metal lathe we used was paper backed, but we also had tyvek house wrap over our OSB.  In the area where we went over the concrete foundation, we built up with fan-fold foam and hardi cement board to bring the foundation  flush with the OSB wall.  We then covered that with lathe attached with tapcons.

    We did a scratch coat over the whole wall before attaching the cultured stone. The scratch coat was about 3/8 to 1/2" and raked horizontally to give more bonding area.  Keep the scratch coat damp in dry weather.

    Cultured Stone recommends that the stone be kept 4" above the grade or 2" above concrete.

    Cultured Stone's web site has installation information:   http://culturedstone.com/

    kestrel

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