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Cutting a beam pocket

buddb | Posted in Construction Techniques on November 11, 2015 10:45am

I’m building a house with three porches and have to cut beam pockets in the walls to support the overhead beams. any ideas on cutting them into the corners of the walls.the house  has three corners inverted for porches. its called dorset 2 you can see it on youtube from Beaver homes.  This is my first post so a big hi to everyone here.

 

Thanks

Barry

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  1. oldhand | Nov 12, 2015 06:31pm | #1

    more info required....

    If you want advice you need to provide more info here instead of sending us off to some other site.

    1. DanH | Nov 12, 2015 07:00pm | #2

      Or at least provide links.

  2. florida | Nov 13, 2015 02:54pm | #3

    If you're building a new house why would you need to cut in beam pockets? Why not build them in?

  3. calvin | Nov 13, 2015 03:07pm | #4

    Barry

    this is either a legit question of yours or a spam msg for home hardware bldg center in Canada.

    which one is it?

  4. buddb | Nov 13, 2015 07:08pm | #5

    Beam Pockets

    Ok, sorry guys, I'm not too computer saavy. I will build them into the walls that aren't already made but some are up already.The beams are three 2x12s nailed together. What is the depth of the pocket? Also does the beam go under the second top plate or level with it? It says on the drawing typ. L corner bearing. I'll try to put an attachment.This is the plan, I couldn't post just the page so I beleive the info is on page 4.Its a bungalo. Ill tryto post a pic. Thanks for your help

    File format
    1. john7g | Nov 14, 2015 07:47am | #6

      StrongTies

      Why not use a Simpsons beam hanger?

      1. buddb | Nov 16, 2015 10:03pm | #11

        Beam Pockets

        Thanks, Iv'e talked to the inspector and he's ok with using a HUC212-3 Simpson hanger for the connection it has the nails on the inside so I can put it right up to the edge of the wall . Great idea.

        Cheers

        Barry

    2. catmandeux | Nov 14, 2015 08:52am | #7

      The beams that have the "Typ

      The beams that have the "Typ L corner to provide bearing" are all identified as "Decorative beams".   So whatever type of corner construction you are using are simply cut back to have this beam sit on top. 

      How deep into the wall cavity?  At least fully bearing on one of the studs in the corner.  Depends on the style of corner detail you are using.  Can you provide a sketch of your corner details?

      Beam height has to match the structural beam at the corner posts.  I am assuming that the strucutral beam is set level with the top of the top plates, so your decorative beams have to match.  I would notch the top of the decorative beam even with the top of the studs.  Top plates would then extend over the beam and overlap at the corner.

      Sketch attached for a conventional 3 stud corner. 

      File format
      1. buddb | Nov 15, 2015 07:19pm | #9

        Beam Pocket

        Thanks, thatI is what I was looking for.  Helps me a lot. Sorry I dont have a sketch of the corner but I think it's called a two stud "L" corner. I'm going to talk to the building inspector also to see what he thinks about simpson hangers.

        Cheers

        Barry

  5. buddb | Nov 14, 2015 09:05am | #8

    Beam pockets

    Thanks for the replys guys. I have beam pockets in the foundation but it says to put them in for overhead beams on the porch. page 4 on the drawings have three beam pockets in the walls for the overhead beams. Its a covered porch. Would simpson ties be enough support or would that be something I should discuss with the building inspector beforer I go into that? In the one pic. at the bottom right corner, at the top of the wall thats where the pocket has to go. In the next pic where the stairs are, thats where one porch will be, There is a pocket in the foundation that lines up with the peirs, it's hidden behind the Typar and I have to put another one directly above that in the wall for the overhead beam.  Thanks again

    Barry.

    1. mark122 | Nov 16, 2015 07:05pm | #10

      as long as your not point loading your hanger location, hangers are very adequate. The issue you may run into using hangers is having enough room to nail the hanger (depending on the width of your beam).

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