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Deck Ledger Board into solid foundation wall

user-7258041 | Posted in Construction Techniques on August 3, 2019 11:10pm

I need to attach a 2 x 10 ledger board for a deck on a solid foundation wall.
And have  a few questions/ concerns

Concern:
When attaching ledger board to a foundations wall I cannot use the required 2-7/8 screws that the major manufactures of joist hangers require to meet their standards/codes.

–Should I use a Double 2 x 10 ledger board, so I can use the 2-7/8″ screws with the joist hanger?

-Also would like to know if I do need a double 2×10 ledger board should use 5/8 expansion bolts instead of 1/2 expansion bolts?

I’m having trouble finding 1/2 expansion bolts long enough to use with a double 2×10 and a 1/2 air gap puck and be able to insert a least 2-1/2 inches into the foundation.

Many Thanks in advance
Bob

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  1. florida | Aug 05, 2019 12:26pm | #1

    Don't use screws to attach the joist hangers, use 1 1/2" hanger nails. I use something like the Red Head LDT bolts to attached ledgers to concrete. I usually use a 6" X 5/8" at a minimum.

  2. user-7258041 | Aug 05, 2019 09:00pm | #2

    Simpson/ says you shouldn't use 3 1/2" nails or 2 1/2" SD Connector screws into joist hanger on the the header to meet specs/code.

    Maybe I'm missing something when you're saying 1 1/2"
    I was debating using expansion bolts vs Red Head LDT bolts.

    Thanks
    Bob

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  3. florida | Aug 06, 2019 09:52am | #3

    What hanger are you using? Simpson calls for 10d angled nails on LUS hangers on 2x framing for instance

  4. suburbanguy | Aug 06, 2019 08:18pm | #4

    Whatever you do it has to be approved by the building inspector (or be code compliant if you did get a permit :) ), so I'd recommend that you go to city hall and discuss it with them. Building codes are specific to your state, so you might get erroneous information from this board.

  5. user-7258041 | Aug 07, 2019 06:16pm | #5

    I checked with the building inspector they refer me to IRC.
    I am using LUC hangers.

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      Mike_Mahan | Aug 07, 2019 06:47pm | #6

      The IRC says nothing about this. You need to refer to Simpson's literature. Use a Simpson 10d nail that's 1 1/2" long. There is no reason for a double ledger. I'd use 2 expansion bolts for each joist. 3/8 should be fine with that many bolts unless your plans show different.

  6. bing0328 | Aug 17, 2019 06:27pm | #7

    Is this a walk out deck or a second story deck? If walk out I just add some additional piers and a beam set back from house wall (1') and run joists to a 2x rim joist that is set back from house wall 1/2" to 3/4". This allows debris, water, etc to run straight to ground and most importantly no potential rot at ledger. Grace membrane on top of all beams and joists.

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