I will be renovating my three bathrooms in the near future. I’m thinking of buying a demolition hammer to remove the wall and floor tiles in all three rooms. My BIL will do the same in his house so I would lend the tool to him.
Can the Bosch 11320VS SDS-plus chipping hammer handle this kind of job ?
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=11320VS
Since I’ll have limited use for this tool once I’m done, I probably can’t justify the bigger demolition hammers.
I could also rent but since i will be doing the three rooms at different times, three to six rentals fees will probably end up costing more than buying something outright.
Thx.
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found this one at a reasonable price
http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/picture10?NTITEM=8A4FMHD
Anyone familiar with them ?
Chucky
I looked at link the busy bee only sells in canada
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Yeah...Busy Bee in Canada only; Grizzly in the US only.
The two companies are owned by two brothers. Not sure if its a friendly rivalry or an all out family feud.
Maybe look at the reconditioned Bosch ones here
http://bosch.cpotools.com/hammers_and_hammer_drills/rotary_and_combination_hammers/sds-plus_hammers/
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I've got an earlier version of that one; works great for just what you descibe. Interestingly, I got a set of SDS-plus wood chisels that are incredibly useful at times.
Forrest
Based on a recent job, any SGS or SDS-plus roto-hammer with chipping action should do just fine.
I just spent the last 4 days doing the exact same thing. The first day I just used a hand sledge, chisel, and claw hammer. I demo'd the left end wall, and 2/3's of the right end wall, and had blisters on my hammer-hand.
The following day I brought up the Boschhammer (pictured) with a narrow chisel. It saved my hand, and was faster, though it didn't do much with the metal lath. The tile backer was not a mudbed, but rather 1-1.5" concrete, aggregate and all.
I went through two chisels demoing 130 sq ft of tile and concrete backer. And I haven't even started on the floor.
Good luck. Wear safety glasses and leather gloves, and a dust mask.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul." Invictus, by Henley.
A couple questions first.Are these older homes? read is all the tile set in thick mortar beds?are the floors on concrete slab?If the answer is no to either of these dont buy unless you have both issues with all your baths there are better ways of dealing with removing tile.I own and use a Hilti 805 (27# class breaker) and a Bosch bulldog and Hilti TE 7 C (3/4 SDS combo hammer) the 805 is almost never used in residential and the Bosch is almost always enough to do the job.For mortar bed walls A diamond grinder or saw, make a duct tape dust cover and attach to a vac Cut down the tile between studs and pry off 12-16" segments of tile and bed and carry them out. depending on the wire mesh you may need to make horizontal cuts as well.
For CBU's or drywallas a substrate on walls. Knock off the bullnose then cut the backer with a sawzall around the premiter. smack a hole in the edge of the tile/backer pull the sheet fron the studs. The screw to backer being the weakest link. Often you will be able to remove the whole 3x5 sheet of tile and backer.For floors
If it is a mortar bed less than 2" thick and you want to keep it you need a lighter duty hammer as the larger ones will often shatter the bed.If it is on slab you can often use a smaller one with good success. If the floor is (worst senairo) durock well glued and screwed (have fun) Save your $$$ buy a smaller rotary hammer with chipping CraigEdited 11/14/2009 8:28 pm ET by chairmon <!-- CHAIRMON1 -->
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I have the Bosch Bulldog and it is just the right size for most residential jobs.
I've used bigger hammers but the bulldog is just right for most stuff.
Plus it is a hammer drill. "There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading, the few who learn by observation and the rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."Will Rogers
that will do it....
has been for me for a lotta years...
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http://www.cpotools.com/search/20091020233823/index.php/search?terms=11320VS+SDS
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
you'll be amazed wht you can do with this number...
tyrade off of two worlds...
http://bosch.cpotools.com/reconditioned_tools/hammers_and_hammer_drills/rotary_and_combination_hammers/sds-plus_hammers/11236vs-46.html
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Well, since the Bosch-man is here...If I've got to break up a slab and re-route some plumbing in the near future, do you have a recommendation? Is this one overkill?
http://bosch.cpotools.com/hammers_and_hammer_drills/rotary_and_combination_hammers/sds-max_hammers/11241evs-rt.html'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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would it matter if I told ya that's one I use for that kind of work???
relative to thickness and footage...
I keep a plan "B" at the ready just in case....
http://bosch.cpotools.com/reconditioned_tools/hammers_and_hammer_drills/breaker_hammers/
you removing the slab or trenching??? thickness??? SF???
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"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Basement bath, maybe 7' x 8'. Existing shower will be a complete tear out. (There's a certain spot in hell reserved for those who use mastic over drywall in a standing shower, but I digress.)
Don't know how thick the slab is. House is from the mid 30s
Strongly suspect the shower drain has no trap, so I'll want to fix that, and as long as I'm cutting things up, I'll change the order of things like so (top is existing scenario)
And what's a new project if you can't justify a new tool?
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30's concrete... cake and pie...
diamond score the floor 1st at least an 1/8" deep and that 241 will chew up that floor...
abandon what ya can...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Thanks Marty.Appreciate the info!'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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For slabs I cut it and use a sledge hammer. It's a floor so using a sledge works fine.
Gravity is working for you on a floor.
The last time i did it i borrowed a farmers sledge.
It was huge and it had a steel handle welded on it. Never going to break that handle!
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I'd love to buy that one. A reconditioned unit would even be affordable. But I'm faced with the usual problem of shipping to Canada. That company, like many others, don't do it.
I think I'll try the GMC drill. There is a store in my city that carries it.
that hmmer I linked you to is a drill and DH combo...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
check out Boss Tool they are out of Windsor and ship across the country.
Are the Craftex tools the same as the Grizzly tools?
Busy Bee was founded by two brothers. They eventually severed the partnership. One brother carried on with Busy Bee while the other went south and established Grizzly.