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Divider wall

Hale | Posted in Construction Techniques on April 3, 2008 12:45pm

I want to build a short wall (maybe two feet) running out from my front door entrance to divide it from the dining area. I would like to build a half wall with either slats, balusters or frosted glass in the top half.

Where can I find plans for this or can anyone tell me how to build it?

Thanks

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  1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 03, 2008 01:53am | #1

    Hire a carpenter.

     

     



    Edited 4/8/2008 3:42 pm by Hudson Valley Carpenter

    1. Hale | Apr 03, 2008 10:36pm | #2

      Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule.

       

       

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      JDRHI | Apr 04, 2008 12:18am | #9

      I want to replace the engine in my 1965 Ford Musta......

      J. D. Reynolds

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      1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 04, 2008 01:12am | #10

        That's actually a more complete and accurate description than the OP offered. 

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          JDRHI | Apr 04, 2008 01:19am | #11

          <<Snicker, snicker>>

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  2. MSA1 | Apr 03, 2008 11:01pm | #3

    Can you explain it a little better? I'm a little cloudy on your exact plan. My first thought is that 24" is too low and may be a trip hazard. thats why I need clearer picture.

    1. Hale | Apr 03, 2008 11:32pm | #4

      Hi,

      The wall would be two to three feet long next to the front door to separate the dining area and entrance. The overall height would be 8 feet, but I want the top half to have glass or maybe balusters. I might try a local glass company to see if they have stained or frosted glass.

       

      1. MSA1 | Apr 03, 2008 11:35pm | #5

        Gotcha, If you're talking about glass block then you just need know how much rough-in space you need for the glass. If its anything else, you can just frame-it and cut to match.

        1. Hale | Apr 03, 2008 11:46pm | #6

          Thanks MSA1,

          How do you think the balusters would look? I could probably finish the opening with stained 1x stock and moulding.

           

           

          1. MSA1 | Apr 03, 2008 11:56pm | #7

            Honestly, I think the balluster (if were both picturing the same thing) would look fresh out of 1975.

            Glass block may look good. I'd have to see exactly what were talking about. I really like open spaces but I also like to define seperate areas of a house.

            Do you think you could accomplish the same thing with a piece of furniture?

      2. wallyo | Apr 04, 2008 12:10am | #8

        Something along the lines of this?

  3. MikeHennessy | Apr 04, 2008 03:32pm | #12

    You won't find "plans" for exactly what you are looking for. You may find something you can adapt to your use in any of hundreds of "DIY Project" books available in your local book store or big box like Home Depot.

    In general, you'd erect the lower part of your wall with 2X4 stud construction with the stud at the free end going all the way to the ceiling to keep the wall from flexing. (That, or you need to attach the free end through the floor to the floor framing below to provide the required stiffness.) If you want glass, you need to either use glass block or tempered glass due to it's proximity to the floor and door. Code.

    This is not really too hard, but it sounds like you're pretty green (no offence intended). You may want to hook up with a retired carp to help you through it so you're not featured on some future episode of HGTV "DIY Disasters".

    Mike Hennessy
    Pittsburgh, PA

  4. Piffin | Apr 04, 2008 05:43pm | #13

    Hope you didn't find that first response too short or rude, but realistically, it was hard to know how to respond to your OP, given the tiny bit of info you provided.

    Normally this is such an easy simple thing to do, that plans are not part of the program. A good carp can have it done in a day or two, depending...

    And telling you how to go about means that somebody has to write a book unless they assume just how much you already know.

    The way you worded the request surely did not offer much along that line, and hinted that you may be in over your head.

    Getting info here is a conversational mode in the way it happens. The more you put in, the more you get out of it. I am not saying all this to beat you up, but to help you understand why you got a brief answer that is of little value. your question was the same.

     

     

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    1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 04, 2008 07:00pm | #14

      Wow!  Amazing!  Since when did you become Ms. Goody2shoes?  You're usually the chief nailer of hides to the wall.  LOL.

      In my defense, the guy's still better off, hiring someone competent to do it.  After all, it's not a shelf in the garage.  It's right inside the front door.

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        bp21901 | Apr 04, 2008 07:25pm | #15

        I did a double take myself when I saw the author...I think he's been drinking de-caf today. ;)

        Edited 4/4/2008 12:26 pm ET by bp21901

      2. Piffin | Apr 04, 2008 07:27pm | #16

        getting in touch with the real me;) 

         

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        1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 04, 2008 07:45pm | #17

          I think that plant you've been growing in your bedroom all winter has finally produced some good bud.

          ;-)

           

           

          Edited 4/4/2008 12:54 pm by Hudson Valley Carpenter

        2. john7g | Apr 04, 2008 08:08pm | #19

          Mom says that'll make you go blind

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      davidhawks | Apr 04, 2008 11:04pm | #20

      Don't know about the OP, but I found HVC's response VERY short and rude.  IMHO a more appropriate post would have been to ask for more info of just keep reading.  To be intentionally rude is pointless. 

      I try to remember what the make-up of people on this forum are, and consider my posts accordingly (read: not be an azz!).

      Lots of WEW's here, and I don't give a sheet who you are, we all had a first project.

      My .02The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.

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        JDRHI | Apr 05, 2008 01:23am | #21

        Ya see.....and I foung HVCs post to intend humor, while still getting the point across.

        J. D. Reynolds

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      2. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 05, 2008 01:41am | #22

        All good points David.  So why aren't you asking the OP how you can be of assistance?  Or are you above both me and him? 

        I have an old case of wise-azzery which may not always reflect well on me in polite company but that doesn't bother me at all.  Sometimes I feel like a little provocation is a good way to get to the point.  Separate the wheat from the chaff.   

        As a wise-azz I've encountered superior types like you all through my life.  None of you impress me because your first thought is to criticise rather than to help.

        There's been a half dozen guys who came up with something more useful than you have.  Piffin assesed the situation and offered the kind of advice that fit as well as any I've ever seen on a message board.  Kudos to him.   

        1. Piffin | Apr 05, 2008 04:50am | #23

          OK guys - don't make me have to erect a divider wall between you.;) 

           

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            JDRHI | Apr 05, 2008 07:10am | #24

            heh, heh.....heh, heh......you said...heh, heh....e-r-e-c-t....heh, heh...heh, heh.

            J. D. Reynolds

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          2. wallyo | Apr 05, 2008 07:26am | #25

            If no one has noticed it has been two days and the OP has yet to post replies or questions, concerning a subject that was important to him. He is probably over at TOH getting some serious answers at this point.Wallyo

            Edited 4/5/2008 7:48 pm ET by wallyo

          3. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Apr 06, 2008 05:01pm | #26

            Wally,

            It's been pretty clear from the outset that the OP is in over his head on this project. 

            There's so many details that, as Piffin said, it'd take a book to tell it all.  Either a book or a competent carpenter.

            If you still want to help him out, you could send him an Email and offer to talk him through it on the phone, using photos and drawings you both send back and forth. 

             

  5. john7g | Apr 04, 2008 08:08pm | #18

    framing will probably look something like either of the 2 options in the attached pic. Either [case] attaching it to structure inside the wall wil be required which may be as simple as aligning it with an existing stud or a block to span the dist between studs. 

     



    Edited 4/4/2008 6:36 pm ET by john7g

    1. Hale | Apr 06, 2008 10:29pm | #27

      Thanks Guys,

      I have already constructed my wall so that my electrician can get started tomorrow. It is simply a three foot wall extending out from the front wall near the door. It will be anchored at the top, and I left a 16 " O.C. space in the middle in case I want to put in glass to match the fanlight in the front door.

      OP

      1. KenHill3 | Apr 07, 2008 02:11am | #28

        I love it. While youse guys were busy bantering about, the OP was busy building his wall and gettin' 'er done! :0)

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