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   FastEddie1 | May 24, 2004 07:06am | #1

   I use that nailer.  I switched the triggers the first day to the sequential type, and it has never double fired.

   Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

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   alwaysoverbudget | May 24, 2004 07:10am | #2

   i've got a old duofast,must weigh 10lbs.when you pull the trigger it fires the nail and because it's so heavy it doesn't recoil and fire #2. i like that about it plus if you need to knock a rafter in place you can just whack it with the gun-no need for hammer. only drawback is if you hold it for over 3 mins your arm falls off! i notice the new pc nailer has a button for single fire or sequencual (?) fire,that would be nice. i hate a gun double firing nails all over the job,odds are somebody is gonna get hit sometime. larry

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   BenA | May 24, 2004 04:13pm | #3

   FYI , Back in July of 03, OSHA has come out with a safety ruling that all large body framing pneumatic tools MUST be made with a sequential trigger, this is to prevent accidental firing of tool if trigger is depressed while holding down nose piece.

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   dieselpig | May 24, 2004 09:06pm | #4

   This has been debated here before, FWIW....

   I had a PC framing nailer in the mix with my crew for awhile.  Three Hitachi's and one PC that was always used as a back-up.  That gun double fired for all of us.  Not all the time, but far more frequently than any other gun I have ever seen/used.  Some PC owner's will swear it's user error, but I've got a framing gun in my hands most days and sometimes all day long.   You can't tell me that I don't know how a framing nailer should perform.  Everyone slips up on safety once in awhile, but that gun had more than it's share of "what the heck was that" incidents.

   Eventually, and this is completely on me, that gun got one of my guys.  Sent a 3 1/4" spike into his palm and up his ring finger like a splint.  Left nothing exposed but the head....strangest looking mis-fire I've ever seen.  And yes, it happened on a double-fire in the hands of an experienced framer.  I don't have a doubt in my mind that if he had had a Hitachi in his hands, this accident wouldn't have happened.

   I gotta believe that those who defend the PC's do it because they just don't know any better and don't know how a "good" framing gun should operate and perform.

   Of course, now that sequential triggers have become mandatory equipment, these incidents could very well go down.  I've got two of the brand new Hitachi's that I recently traded in for and I've got to tell you that they haven't been set to sequential fire since they came out of the box.  Tough to give up the bump-fire once you get used to the production.

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   Sancho | May 24, 2004 11:12pm | #5

   I just got the PC350 framer about a week and half ago and have used it framing a couple of small walls. It didnt double fire on me at all. I use the sequencial pref on the trigger which came with it. However it seems to jam alot whenn I get to the end of a stick. 

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   dieselpig | May 25, 2004 02:10am | #6

   The gun I had would have been about four years old now.  I suppose it's entirely possible that they have done some engineering and improved on this earlier gun.  Even still, I know what I've seen and experienced, and have heard more than a few other folks complain about identical performance issues. 

   Of course I wish you the best with your nailer and hopefully you won't experience the problems I had with mine. 

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   Sancho | May 25, 2004 05:53am | #11

   Me too :>) 

   Darkworksite4:

   El americano pasado hacia fuera ase la bandera

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   MisterT | May 25, 2004 01:15pm | #12

   Either JLC or FHB did a review off positive placement nailers a while back.

   It seemed to me that the Hitachi led the pack.

   Mr T

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   bhackford | May 25, 2004 02:49am | #7

   I will probabley go with a Hitachi. They seem to have the best track record. What is your opinion of the new Bostitch guns? The one with the changable tip? Thanks again for your opinions.

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   BenA | May 25, 2004 04:35am | #8

   I like the Bostitch N88rh-2mcn  metal connecting gun. Nose piece is easy to change and gun has plenty of power , 1000 in/lbs. of driving force. What does the Hitachi has? it will drive nails in engineer lumber without a problem. see attaches link.

   http://www.stanleybostitch.com/default.asp?CATEGORY=BOS%5FFRAM%5FNAILER&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=N88RH-MCN-2&SDesc=High+Power+Framing+System

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   bhackford | May 25, 2004 05:02am | #9

   The grey trigger means? No double fires?

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   dieselpig | May 25, 2004 05:42am | #10

   I always seem to go back to Hitachi's...they are just a no frills proven performer.

   I can't speak first hand about that Bostich, but I hear very good things about them.  Am considering buying one myself to dedicate to hardware only.  I had the Paslode positive placement nailer about two years ago when they first came out.  As handy as it was, I just never liked it.  It weighed a ton and jammed too frequently for me.  Jams are a fact of life if you're firing two cases of nails a day through four guns, but the jams on this gun where always the kind that required a full break-down of the gun.....I just didn't have the time for that and the gun would sit, still jammed, for weeks at a time in my truck.  Sold it to my old boss.

   I can't say that that has been a common problem with the Paslode, in fact I'm the only one I have ever heard complain of this problem.

   BUT....that's not what your were asking me about now, was it!  HA!  Can I get off track or what?

   I will probably buy a Bostich to give it a chance as a framer, but probably dedicate it to hardware.

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   Snort | May 25, 2004 05:32pm | #13

   Mt first framing gun was a brown Senco, used to call it "Brownie". That sucker always double fired. We just thought it was Senco's way of nailing everything up tight. Brownie shot everybody on the crew at least once. When he got stolen, there were no tears shed, plus, we knew it would shoot the guy that took him, too<G>

   Don't worry, we can fix that later!

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   DanH | May 25, 2004 07:18pm | #14

   Yeah, you'll probably get sued by the guy.