follow-up of prior discussion. Time to case doors, blah, blah. Talked about wood, alternatives to wood, profiles, finishes. Sphere gave me a bunch of good advice when he visited, too. Even got some basswood and planed it. But never committed to putting it all up…not certain it’d fit with all the plaster and stucco.
Friend tells me about TrimRoc ( http://wind-lock.com/public/trimroc/default.asp ) . Seems like a better match to what I have, if I can find the right profile.
Anyone use it?
Runs about $5/ft. Ouch. But I can install and finish it, so no labor. How’s that compare to nice wood casings, for those of you who price that stuff?
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looks like painted wood?
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Do ornamental plaster medallions and such look like painted wood? I dunno. Trying to stick with a theme (lotsa plaster/stucco and precious little wood), but only if it makes sense. You run trim, Jeff. What's a comparable $/ft charge for nice trim? Serious question, be/c I haven't priced it.
If you've got a lot of 'plaster/stucco', CH, why not wrap the reveals, as is commpn in Mexico, for instance? Rather than standard jambs 4-1/2" wide, have them wide enough for door plus stop (2"?) and - if using drywall - use round-nose bead into the reveals up to the jambs.cheers
***I'm a contractor - but I'm trying to go straight!***
Why not? Be/c I didn't plan sufficiently ahead. I know different now. I do have some drywall returns. But in other places I have to use some sort of casing. My thinking was that with the right profile, including an extra thickness on the door side of the casing (as opposed to the wall side) and a bullnose, it'll kinda sorta maybe look similar to a return.
I never price out sq/ft or per opening, so I can't even guess for ya.
I was thinking along the same likes of Piko ... I don't see any difference between the product you linked and regular painted wood. I'd guess a painted wood "look" is what that manufacturer was shooting for in the first place.
Gotta be a way to make plaster/stucco "look" casing.
1x ... round over edges ... painted with a hand full of sand in the mix?
built up drywall with paper wrapped edges and lumpy durobond?
real or fake stucco?
form some metal "casings" in place and use real plaster?
me ... I'd just use wood and paint it to match.
Old adobe house used wood ... stain it darker for a more "historic" look?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I used some Abitibi extruded poly something crown moldings. They are not a plaster faced product but I think the core is similar. There were inside and outside corners with this product but I think they look amateurish. I just mitered and coped like a normal installation. The pieces only came 8' so there were quite a few scarf joints. The surface was rather fragile, especially when coping. Nails would blow right through the foam. The material moves both in width and length slightly. Enough to open a joint here and there. That may not be the case with Trimrock.
When installing crown moldings, there isn't very much that sits on the wall and ceiling. It is easy to hold it a little high or low. Moving slightly has an effect on the fit of miters and copes. A product that is fastened with joint compound could make lining things up more difficult. I'm sure you could fill gaps but they often show later on. If the material was stored wrong and wasn't nice and straight, it could spring off and need braces or fasteners to hold in place while the compound dries. You'd need some finish carpenters that could also tape. Typical paper taped sheetrock corners can sometimes crack as a house dries out or settles, could be a tough repair if a piece of two cracked open. How would it attach to window and door jambs? You wouldn't want to slather compound on the wood parts. I wonder how soft the material is, casings, chair rails and baseboards get banged.
The product sounds like it may be an option, particularly for crown moldings but I'd try it out in a closet first. I'd factor in reliability and durability before price.
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match