I was sittin in the waiting room of my skin doctor and noticed that the trim on some of the interior doors was what I consider backwards…the thick part of the trim was in and the thin part out. As a side note, it was only a simple curve and about 1.5″ wide! Base was same material and it didn’t look too bad where the base met the door trim. Does anybody else do it this way or did the builder hire the lowest bidder to do the job and got what he paid for?
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I've seen clamshell or ranch casing like that too..I think it's backwards, I ran miles of it, thin edge to the jambs..but maybe I was wrong?
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Where the casing met the base, was it mitered?
If so that's why the casing was on "backwards". The base needed to have the thicker edge towards the floor...buic
Yes, that was basackwards, but maybe he had a 'creative' architect overseeing things
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What is the functional value of having the thick of a trim piece towards a door or window?
Or base to the floor for that matter?
seems life always comes back to brass tacks
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The thin piece of casing fit with the barrel of the hinge lets it operate better. I am on a job right now where the casing is plain 1x4 and the doors will not open around 180° to lie against the wall. They bind up and stay open at about 165°.Then too some could proceed from the older three piece casings with backband to deal with irregularities in the plaster - this made the portion away from the opening the thicker portionOn baseboard, you want it wider at bottom to cover the joint at floor ( sometimes shoe is added to make it even wider) and you want it sloping off at top with detail so dust can't collect there - as a practical concern. Also, detailing is done to reflect light at the right angles on most original moldings ( before modern day junk ) back up to the viewer so they are pleased by proper proportions. If base were wider at top those details would be facing the floor and inhabitants would have to lie down on the floor to enjoy them. Similar with the casing, the finer detailing compliments your eye as you use the opennning when it faces the center instead of away. This also adds to a sense of depth to the openning.In the greater example, look at drawings of three ordered arches from the renassance. The concentric arch layers added to the sense of majesty and size in the right proportions.
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>>>I am on a job right now where the casing is plain 1x4 and the doors will not open around 180° to lie against the wall. They bind up and stay open at about 165°.Dang you; now I've got to rethink how I'm going to trim out the house. (It was going to be plain 1X4 VG Fir and I hadn't thought of the binding isse).Luckily... I've got a few years of other projects before trim time.So thanks for the headsup, and for giving me a few years of pondering material....Scott.Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”
You could always get some wide throw door hinges for those doors that need to open to 180°.
Yeah, that's basically a question of the length of the hinge extension.
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Do these cause compromises over on the stop/latch side?Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”
The longer the hinge extension, the more the hinge side of the door projects into the door opening when the door is 90 degrees open. The longer extension also requires slightly more bevel on the latch side.In cases where the door opening width absolutely must be maximized (as for a wheelchair) an offset hinge can be used, though it's ugly. The offset hinge does little to help the bevel situation, however.
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Thanks, that's what I envisioned.Scott.
I've only seen it done that way once. I always wondered if it was a mistake or they liked it that way.
I've seen flat casing installed face to the wall, so the back side with the relief trough was out, if you can picture that. looked ok/semi-intentional.
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Maybe the doctor did it himself?
If so, maybe see a differant doctor in case he might stich you up backwards.
If the casing was only 1 1/2 " wide, I would say they went the cheap route.
Sounds like door- stop.
BTW, ever looked around in a Chinese restraunt? :)
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BTW, ever looked around in a Chinese restraunt?
That reminds me of a funny story. I have a friend who owns a Chinese restaurant. He's a great friend and client. One winter his rooftop furnace went out and he called the repairman early in the morning (-5 deg). He showed up with his dog and left him in the running truck while he went to work. Gene saw the dog and insisted he come in the kitchen to keep warm....now comes the lunch crowd. You can see this coming. During lunch, the dog barks a couple of times. One woman who works across the street hears the dog while eating and calls the cops. The policeman shows up and asks to be let into the kitchen. Gene comes out and the policeman askes if there is a dog in the kitchen. He says yes. The guy then asks what a dog is doing in the kitchen. Gene says (drumroll), "He's tonights special". After a few moments silence Gene laughs, takes him to the kitchen and explains the situation. Great story.You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
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I have a sort of similar story. About 20 years ago I had the most loyal Golden Retriever. I took her just about everywhere with me.
So I get a call from my brother at the family restaurant (Its Chinese mind you). He needs me to measure for some shelves he wants me to put up in the basement. It's one of those MN 90¼ and 90% humidity days in August. So I'm not about to leave the dog in the truck. So I think to myself I'll just put her in a big box and bring her in. So I go in the loading dock door grab a big box and proceed to put her in it. I do this because I don't want the employees to see me bringing her in and once we're in the basement no one will know. So I'm in there for 30 minutes or so taking measurements while the dog sits in a corner waiting patiently. Its time to go and I talk to my brother and ask him to take the dog back to the car. He says he doesn't need the box and I say okay fine. He leaves and I take a few more notes and pack up a couple of things. When I get back out to the truck my brother is putting the dog in and just as I get in and get ready to go a cop pulls up and this guy comes running over. He tells the officer, "I saw that guy (me) take that dog into that restaurant in a box !!!" My brother is still standing there in his chef's cap and apron and he say's to the guy and officer, "no this is a different dog we already cooked the one he brought in".
too funny!You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
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