Anybody have any ideas for a downdraft vent that would work with a drop-in electric cooktop with a wall oven installed underneath? Standard telescoping downdrafts don’t leave room for the oven. This is in a peninsula.
Maybe a 2×6 half-wall behind the cooktop with a pop-up vent inside the wall cavity? What I’d really like is a fixed version of that.
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Does your penninsula have a backsplash or is it all one level?
When asked why is there four engines on a 747------ "cause we couldn't fit six" a Boeing engineer
6" backsplash, 2x6 wall below, breakfast counter at the 42" height.
There was a recent thread here about someone building fixed (non-popup) venting in a raised 1/2 wall behind it.
might very well work, so long as you have some extra depth in the cabinet, and you don't have to close couple the cooktop and the vent assembly.....you wil have to use a remote fan however...I wish I didn't know now, what I didn't know then
I found a Fantech dual-speed inline fan I could put in the basement, and there is a 1/2 wall I could run ducting in up to the backsplash. My question now is how to terminate at the backsplash.
This is a design client of mine--I tried to steer them toward a nice Jenn-Air all-in-one unit, but they HAVE to have a drop-in cooktop with a seperate wall oven underneath. Of course the counters will be granite to make it extra difficult.... Sorry for the vent (no pun intended!)
Really? That's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm a pretty dedicated lurker (occasional poster)--I'm surprised I didn't see it. I'll see if the search function is working (ha ha) or just scroll down General Discussion?
http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=79503.1I used Advanced Search and limited to 2 months as I knew it was recent.
I sweat that wasnt' working an hour ago....
We're doing one in an island, and broadening the island enough to permit the fan unit to go behind the ductwork, rather than in front. Hope you have room for that.
That's a good idea. As far as you know can most brands' fans be turned around?
Don't know about all, but the ones we are considering can be installed fan out.
The great thing about this web resource we have is that almost all the major appliance makers have put their installation instructions on line, as well as their "planning" information.
It only makes sense that they do this, seeing as how you do the space planning and get things pretty well fixed, long before the appliance comes on site.
I checked several manufacturers' sites, and maybe I need to look closer, but I didn't see anything expressly about mounting the fan backwards. What brand are you installing, if I may ask?
You're right on the space planning thing. Unfortunately clients can have trouble making up their minds about what they want (you've never noticed that, have you?).
Gene, I've spent a couple hours now perusing various manufacturers' installation instructions--none of them say you can mount the fan on the back. I just spent 20 minutes on hold with KitchenAid--they finally answered, and said it could be done, but it would void the warrantee.
Could you please tell me the brand you're using that allows this? My clients are getting testy....
Thanks!
Mike Maines
Can't be done, Woodguy. I wuz wrong, and I'm sorry it may have screwed up your situation.
In the kitchen we're planning, we designed a large island, one with 24-deep cabs on the range side, and then behind those, a 12" chase space, then facing the other side, and row of 12" deep basecabs. The island has a nominal 48" depth.
The owner thinks he can get a high end Viking-type gas range, not a cooktop but a range, on the 24-deep side, and still get a downdraft vent behind it. This, after telling me he would OK a cooktop. We've a wall oven on the wall to the rear of the range side. One oven apparently isn't enough . . . thus the desire for the full range.
In looking at specs for the various downdraft vent units, I was sure I was seeing configuration reverse setups, but apparently not. Maybe I was just seeing methods for taking the ducting out the back, and not reversing the fan position.
Do you have a way of nixing the onboard fan in a downdraft, and using a remote fan like Fantech has?
OK, I just have to butt in here where I don't belong. I'm normally at Cooks Talk, and am totally amazed that someone is planning to get a high end Viking gas range and use a downdraft. They are NUTS!If you go over to Cooks Talk you can find loads of threads about venting cooktops and the overwhelming opinion is that downdrafts are worthless, and sometimes even cause negative results like blowing out the gas flames.Sandy
Thanks for the additional info Gene--at least I'm not stupid for not being able to find the units you were talking about!
The basement is accessible so we could do a remote Fantech--you're saying instead of a custom backsplash vent with a remote fan, get a pop-up vent and add a remote fan?
Sounds like you're clients are about as practical as mine....
Dacor ERV/PRV30 with remote blower REPM3/16 will work as a rear discharge, it turns out. You were right after all!
Do you really have to have a down-draft? I've got a Jenn-Air four burner with a downdraft and I'm sorry I got it. The fan sucks a lot of the burner heat away from my cooking utensils and I find myself turning off the fan so I can get the heat up. The downdraft fan also fails to remove all the cooking smoke so my kitchen ends up in a fog. Smoke and heat naturally rise so the downdraft is fighting physics.
Joe/Keedman
I wouldn't have a downdraft myself unless there were no other options. This is for a client who won't be talked out of it. Believe me I tried.