Drywall clips vs ‘shiny ninety’
offgridbuilder
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I’m having problems with the local drywaller. I asked him to use drywall clips on our project, a super-insulated home. He laughed and told me no-one does it that way ‘these days’, and that he uses ‘shiny ninety’, some sort of lightweight angled steel. Does anyone have an opinion? I want the corners to float, and cannot use blocking anyways because it would displace the insulation. But… it is sometimes difficult to talk to a tradesman who probably ( I hope!) knows more than I do, and doesn’t appreciate a know-it-all owner-builder.
What are your thoughts on this? Ever heard of shiny ninety? Does it do the same job? Paul
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It's only a problem
if you let him make it one. Since you're writing the checks, ask him to show you how he intends to make the corners, then decide if it's OK with you. He doesn't have to agree with your specs, he just has to meet them, unless he feels it jeopardizes his work, in which case he can walk and you can find someone else.
My personal feeling is that you're getting most of the strength at an inside corner from the tape. Clips just sort of hold the board there while you tape it.
off
Never heard of shiney ninety.
But do know about running board through intersecting walls-this from commercial board hanging.
Remember too-a great idea that sacrifices necessary blocking might not be that great of an idea.
Googling shiny ninety took me to contractortalk.com. One poster said it is sheetmetal material used for making a drywall soffit. Looks legit and your drywaller knows his business.
Understandable that you want to be informed, especially for the money you are charged for the super insulating your home. However, you are very close to butting in. Research your material and double confirm your results before you question the contractor. Sincere effort will show your contractor that you are not just being suspicious.
you are very close to butting in
I don't agree. A contractor who is used to working with different folks and has even a halfway-decent customer service attitude will be able to explain something as simple as his corner fastening method. Why would you want to hire anyone who can't do that without copping an attitude?
If a contractor can't take five minutes to explain an unfamiliar technique and why it's better, he should be fired.
If a customer can't take five minutes to listen to the explanation, he should be fired.
If, after they've talked and listened they can't arrive at a mutual agreement they should shake hands and part ways.
Drywall clips are just that, individual clips. There are different types, some attach to the framing and clip to the drywall, others attach to both. Shiny 90 is a continuous metal angle that attaches to framing and the drywall. Because it's continuous, it's a better choice than clips when inside corners do not have wood nailers making up a corner. There aren't weak, unsupported areas with a continuous angle. Your drywaller knows what to use, he/she doesn't need any coaching.
Hammer
I've used them in soffit builds and a couple of odd things, never thought of them making up a corner.
I can rest easy today, knowing I finally learned something new.
thanks to all for explaining what I knew to be just "angle".
Thanks, guys
Thanks. We've decided to go ahead and board the house ourselves. We'll use drywall clips as planned. There are several good drywall finishing people out there we can call. This drywall guy was a problem in a number of ways: he doesn't return phone calls, doesn't show up as promised, drops in when he pleases and at the worst possible times, still hasn't provided a quote.... Too bad, because I hear he does top-quality work, IF he shows up. I can't work with someone like that, though. I'd rather do business with someone reliable.
You know, I WILL look at some shiny 90 next time I'm in town. Maybe worth experimenting with. Paul