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   Jim_Allen | Apr 11, 2008 05:43pm | #1

   I've seen a lot of crews using adhesive spray.

   Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

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   HansonConstruction | Apr 11, 2008 06:57pm | #3

   Thanks. that sounds interesting.

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   ruffmike | Apr 11, 2008 05:52pm | #2

   We only use tape on bead. Are you getting blisters? Use only all purpose mud and make sure there is enough on the wall to bed it properly. When wiping it down you should be on top of part of the metal, not just the tape and your knife should be turned slightly to be pushing the mud out of the bead.

    When applying a lot of bead there is a device that you use to pull the bead through the mud before it goes on the wall, premudding it. These can be bought or made.

                               Mike

       Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.

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   HansonConstruction | Apr 11, 2008 06:58pm | #4

   I am getting blisters. I guess I'm not putting down enough mud. I'll try that. Thanks.

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   ruffmike | Apr 11, 2008 07:18pm | #5

   Be careful with addhesive, make sure you get one that gives you working time to plumb it up properly. We only use addhesives with vinyl radiused bead, generally speaking.

   I deal with blisters this way. When they show up in the first coat while the mud is drying, I rub in the blister up and down with my finger. This sets the paper to the mud, and on the next coat it is not an issue.                            Mike

       Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.

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   EricPaulson | Apr 12, 2008 01:23am | #6

   I'll guess that now you see the advantage of nailed on metal corner beads coated with a setting type compound.

   I'll never use a paper corner.

   Period.

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   Derr82 | Apr 12, 2008 05:03am | #7

   I see no advantage of metal over paper.  I switched to paper a few years ago and will never go back. The metal in the paper type is thicker making a straighter corner.  It can stand up to abuse a lot better, in my opinion.  And it's more "bathroom friendly" which I do a lot.

    

    

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   IdahoDon | Apr 12, 2008 05:12am | #8

   I've had the worst time getting the paper corners to align with the wall as I wanted them, rather than how they wanted to sit naturally, in order to take out undesireable irregularities near the corner once floated--not that we're talking much.  Just adding additional mud to make up for the amount I wanted to move the corner didn't seem to work well.

   Am I missing something or does the corner have to be floated out with hot mud in advance for the corner to sit right in those cases?

   Every time it comes up I think of the messing around time vs. just stapling up a metal corner and haven't tried enough paper corners to have learned anything.

   Cheers 

   Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.

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   gatno | Apr 12, 2008 05:26am | #9

   keep at it , buddy.  I haven't used old metal corners for 8? 10? years and really wouldn't want to go back.  Use a wide knife if you need help to get it set "just right" (to chck your raised edge above the board) and be sure your mud is wet enough.  You can move the bead around easily once it's on, before you mush it it too well.  good luck

   rod

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   ruffmike | Apr 12, 2008 07:32am | #10

   You may have a brand problem. The stuff commonly sold at Depot is a low grade. Beadex (USG) is a much better product (more metal). Of course its nice to start with a nice straight corner. ; ^ )                            Mike

       Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.

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   billybatts | Apr 12, 2008 10:53am | #11

   this is the one and only problem with your corners....your mud needs to be wetter so that it will bond to the paper.