i just needed to rant a little.
but why is so hard to get drywall finishers to actually finish the job. i can not stand how they never want to mud all the way to the floor, or sometimes even screw in the board at the floor. or actually attach a metal corner bead more than at the ends and once or twice in the middle so the metal does not pop loose. its always some lame excuse like well won’t the baseboard cover that. or the paint will hide it. or you are putting in crown molding right? i have hired all prices, high and low, recommendations from people as to (this guy is the best) trying to find a sub that actually wants to do the job. i have never had a painter tell me “well i know the siding is not quite painted to the ground but your landscaping should block that”
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Great rant but why do you pay for a job that hasn't been properly completed? And, if you've had certain problems with past jobs, do you make a point of bringing them up when you're talking with a new taper about what you expect?
When I'm looking for a taper, I go to my drywall supplier and speak with the manager or, if possible, the owner. If you do that, don't start with your rant, start with a smile. Using the word "reliable" usually helps.
Edited 12/4/2008 10:58 am by Hudson Valley Carpenter
Your not feedng them Strohs for lunch are you?
>>i can not stand how they never want to mud ......., or sometimes even screw in the board at the floor.<<
I generally hang the DW, finish it myself, and then do the trim on my projects.
I never mud the screw at the floor ----- it tells me where to find every stud at the trim stage.
If there is a double stud it gets two screws, triple gets three, etc.
Some of your other points are well taken though!
Jim
Been there.........got smart.......I hand each sub before they bid a spec sheet of my expectations. Not only does it include "standard practices" for the work itself, it also covers issues like smoking, trash, language, dress, parking, side-jobs, etc...........
When I hand it to them, I say, "You got a problem with any of that? Good, sign it along with your proposal. Let me know what you need for a deposit."
Never a sour word since.........
Hey MarkDo you have a copy of expectations that you can post?Frank
Sure, .... I'll post it as soon as get to the office....it's on the other 'puter.....
I have found that any sub getting paid by the sg ft will generally try to do as little as possible to get paid.
I thought it was something important
like sticking your scraps in the wall
<g>
Barry E-Remodeler
Let them know what you exspect. But get it in writing. That way you hold them acountable.
They might never have heard of some of this stuff!
Yea... my guys don't use as many fasteners as is required by code. Pizzes me off. Sounds like mine are good as compared to yours though... I don't think it's necessary to mud the ones behind the base.... Hire a drywaller who does commercial... Here commercial and multi family residential get a fastener inspection. That will fix 'em...
Also, I require my drywaller to own any callback for a year - nail pops... cracked corner beads.. etc, etc.
Edited 12/7/2008 4:26 pm ET by Matt
Seems you have a niche market staring you in the face.
Time to cash in.