My daughter owns a home in Europe. When they wanted to repair some of the plaster they were able to by a product that is very thin, almost see through. It is glued to the wall, and then painted. When the painting is finished, it resembles textured drywall.
They even put it over wallpaper. I am looking for some of it to put up in one area. Anybody heard of this or soemthing similar?
john
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Never heard of it. How do they handle the seams? I'd think you'd see them.
-- J.S.
I am opposed to these type of fixes, because they "cover" the problem, without really fixing it. Band-aid surgery, as it were. Repairing plaster is not necessarily difficult or expensive, so why not do it right?
Actually, I am not going to repair plaster with them...that just seemed like an easy way to cover some wallpaper inside a built-in shelving system instead of trying to pull off the paper, texture with all the shelving protected and then paint it to match the rest of the room.
The HO has agreed to me doing it this way if I can find the stuff. I also proposed using beadboard inside the shelving units but running those numbers adds up to more than it is really worth. The WP was just stuck to the sheetrock (not primed first) and then the shelves were built. It runs around the entire dining room area so it would be costly and difficult to make it look right unless I can find this stuff. She is okay that the rest of the kitchen/dining room area is going to be textured differently. I just do not want to try and texture inside this shelving.
john
Well, that's different I guess. But I still prefer not to layer the coverups. In this case it might make sense. But if the wallpaper is solidly glued to the sheetrock, and if the shelves are removeable, why not just float over it with joint compound, sand and texture and paint? If the shelves are not removeable, that would probably prove too tedious. One of the few instances I could see using the stuff, if the wallpaper itself couldn't be painted over.
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edited to add: BTW, its been my experience that its not just primer that factors in, but wallpaper sizing as well. If the wall was painted with sizing after the primer, the paper seems to remove easily. If not, well, we know that story!
Edited 2/3/2006 2:49 pm by Huck
Huck was saying...
..... am opposed to these type of fixes, because they "cover" the problem, without really fixing it. Band-aid surgery, as it were.
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A curious thought, cause aint what was described does exactly what the paper on drywall does-bridge cracks most of the time.
Huck may well gotta be a wet-wall specialist. Anybody routinely doing plaster and lathe installations (not repairs) these days?
Sorry- couldn't resist.
Eric
"A curious thought, cause aint what was described does exactly what the paper on drywall does-bridge cracks most of the time. Huck may well gotta be a wet-wall specialist. Anybody routinely doing plaster and lathe installations (not repairs) these days?"
Drywall taping paper is made to be embedded in joint compound - its not a surface coverup. The OP introduced the subject of textured paper by saying it was used for plaster repair in Europe. I said I objected to glue-on paper coverups generally, but admitted that in this application (wall behind non-removable shelves) it would make sense.
Best case scenario would have been to skim coat and texture the wall before installing the cabinet, but sometimes you just gotta deal with what's there.
I'm not sure what a "wet-wall specialist" is, I routinely do wall repairs (Bakersfield Wall & Ceiling Repair is my company name)."he...never charged nothing for his preaching, and it was worth it, too" - Mark Twain
I lived in Germany for a number of years and am familiar with what you described.
When I moved into my first house, it was almost the first thing I noticed (after the absence of closets and an alleged kitchen that was bare of anything but a few pipes and electrical boxes!).
I have seen this stuff used over plaster-covered cinderblock walls and also over something similar to our sheetrock/plasterboard. But it always looked a bit cheesy to me, like someone just painted over their wallpaper because they couldn’t be bothered to remove it. And the installers never seemed to be too careful about installation, since the joints were rarely done very well and always stuck out like a sore thumb.
I don’t know if you can get it over here. The following is a link to sort of a German version of HD, however you’ll need a German-speaking friend as there is no option for English.
http://www.obi.de/de/index.html?svid=a74a6002691e0a57e4846a4febb2c121&ls=0
I still think spraying texture is the way to go.
Okay! It is called lining paper...it can be painted over and does give some texture. As for it sometimes looking cheesy, that is true but it can also be done very neatly. I guess just like over here it depends on the level of craftsmanship of the installer.
Edit: IF anyone can think of an easy way to texture inside unmoveable shelves, I will definitely go that route. These shelves are actually more like open cabinets with no doors. It was built as part of a display system for a previous owner.
Edited 2/3/2006 5:39 pm ET by Harrisdog43
Actually after looking at the link, I thought of trying some UK sites and found that it is lining paper. Now to find it here.
I did see it done well. The guy who did it for my daughter was excellent. I just did not know that he had used it...I thought it was drywall.
john
I think Lowes has it .
If not it can be ordered at a wal paper store / paint store.
It comes in pretty big rolls and is quite popular.
I put it up with commercial adhesive or border adhesive that puts a lock down on it .
Actually it has the purpose of covering already papered walls which is a pain to remove some paper and an actually take the drywall paper with it causing a big mess to fix. So, they make this stuff to get the painted wall look back which is avoiding fixing the wall. However it comes at a price and is just as expensive as wall paper . On something as big as a living room its not worth it in most cases being cost prohibitive . The glue seals the joint and squeezes out an excess thats wiped flush in the case . A little drywall mud in the paint will mask the joints nicely and give it a painted texture look.
Tim
Tim:
I think you have it. My daughter had already found some at Lowe's. I won't really need much, but I cannot think of another way to do something inside those shelves.
The wallpaper there has got to be hidden. I still might do my original idea of using beadboard, but while measuring it, I realized it is really going to be hard to get enough in there to do the job. There is an upright in the middle of each shelf that cannot be removed so I have try and thread the beadboard in, get it nailed up and then use some trim to hide the area that I cannot cover with the bb due to lack of space. I am beginning to think of just removing the blasted things and starting over...not really an option.
I also thought of using individual beadboards instead of the plywood stuff which I originally envisioned before discovering that the shelves were non-removeable.
Good thing is that it is not included in the bid and the HO already knows it is a hard job to do and that any solution won't be cheap.
john
Edited 2/3/2006 9:31 pm ET by Harrisdog43
This might be what you're looking for
http://www.anaglypta.co.uk/range/rangframe.htm or
http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/Lining_Papers_and_Relief_Decorations/Lincrusta_Wallcoverings/
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