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Dull high gloss oil finish?

MichaelNYC | Posted in General Discussion on June 1, 2009 03:41am

Any thoughts on dulling down a high gloss oil based paint finish? Color looks beautiful, but the finish is just too glossy. Want it more of a satin finish. Would have bought that finish originally but they didn’t have it at store. Steel wool? Thanks

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  1. JTC1 | Jun 01, 2009 03:59pm | #1

    What is the paint applied to?

    I suspect trim.

    Steel wool would do the job for dulling it down, but I would think that "even-ness" of dulling would be the hard part to produce with steel wool.  Those pesky corners, grooves, nooks, crannies.......

    Another coat of the paint in a satin finish formulation sounds like the easiest remedy.

    But I'm not a painter......

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    1. MichaelNYC | Jun 01, 2009 04:05pm | #2

      The paint is on cabinets -- they were bare wood, I primed with oil primer, then oil paint high gloss. How about a coat of clear satin poly?

      1. Danno | Jun 01, 2009 04:19pm | #3

        Wow is this site ever slow this morning! Anyway, clear satin poly might work, but for it to bond well, you should probably take the gloss off before you paint anyway! There are chemical deglossers, but they may soften the finish. Maybe since the paint is so new, the next coat will bond okay. I don't see why the clear coat wouldn't work--I clear coated some latex paint on cabinets in a bathroom many years ago (with water-based poly) and the finish is still fine. I know that you are working with oil-based, not water-based, but I don't see why it wouldn't work--what does the paint say about when to put on second coat? If you clear coat during that window, it should be fine, I would think.

      2. JTC1 | Jun 01, 2009 04:20pm | #4

        That would probably work.

        Adhesion might be a problem - I would talk to a real paint store before doing anything - paint department at a big box does not qualify.

        Remember, I am not a painter........

        JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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        kurt99 | Jun 01, 2009 05:40pm | #8

        A word of caution about satin poly. If you are considering the traditional oil based poly, it is called clear but it is actually a pale amber. This is just fine on a natural wood where it adds to the colors that are already there. Unless your paint color is the the yellow - amber - brown family, it will change the color in a way that you will not like. Even if your color is in the yellow to brown range, unless it is applied in a perfectly even coat, the color will no longer be totally even as your paint finish is.Water based poly dries very clear and will avoid the color problem. I would be very careful to sand off the gloss to get good adhesion or I would expect the same sort of adhesion problems as you get by painting latex paint over a very glossy finish, particularly in the high wear application of kitchen cabinets.

  2. Piffin | Jun 01, 2009 04:30pm | #5

    Kit cabs get a lot of wear and ear so another coat of same paint is a good idea anyways, just buy it in satin this time.

    Or if you still have enough of the gloss, buy some deglosser to add to it. All oil paint starts as gloss and then has deglosser additives.

     

     

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    1. MichaelNYC | Jun 01, 2009 04:38pm | #6

      Problem is that oil paint, as you know, is illegal in most states now. I got a couple of cans under the table from the local paint store and all he had left was high gloss, so can't repaint with satin. I know I'm burning up the environment, etc., but I really prefer to use oil on cabinets.

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        Dam_inspector | Jun 01, 2009 04:57pm | #7

        You can use pumice to degloss and smooth the finish. F is the coarsest, probably a good place to start.

        Edited 6/1/2009 10:07 am ET by Dam_inspector

  3. Frankie | Jun 01, 2009 05:55pm | #9

    Do you have enough paint to repaint? If not, you can get more of the oil paint from Eagle Paints in NJ. They ship to NYC. Order it with the proper finish sheen.

    If you do have enough paint left over, you can do it one of two ways -

    1. Add a flattening oil/ agent to the paint prior to application.

    2. Add some mineral spirits to the paint prior to application. It doesn't take much thinner to cut the sheen so be very careful. Plus, the thinner will allow the paint to flowout quicker. Too much will cause it to sag.

    Both methods will affect drying time - considerably. Proceed accordingly.

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