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Electrical prep for new Workshop

danaho70 | Posted in General Discussion on October 13, 2012 12:35pm

 Hello everybody, My name is Scott and thanks for allowing me to post my question,

 

 I am in the process of building a new woodshop..Its 16×24 and It’s 30′ from the back of my home.. {Directly in line with my current electrical panel box} 

 I am going to dig a trench to bury the necessary wiring etc.. from the box to the new shop..The shop is built on piers..{much like a deck}

 I am going to hire an electrician to do ALL OF the necessary wiring..

I have a table saw and a planer that run on 220, everything else is 110

My question is –

What kind of conduit do I put in the trench? Made of what? How big? One piece or seperate pieces? How deep?

I would appreciate any and all advice that I could get..Thanks a million,

 

 Scott

 

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  1. gfretwell | Oct 13, 2012 01:42pm | #1

    I would run 1.5" PVC conduit

    I would run 1.5" PVC conduit buried 18" down minimum. Frost may make that deeper, ask locally. It doesn't freeze here ;)

    That will give you the most flexibility. If you think you might want water and low voltage, this is the time to drop those in the trench (3/4" PVC for the low voltage)

    The pipe will end up being the cheapest thing in this project and the hardest to change if your needs change.

    1. danaho70 | Oct 14, 2012 08:04am | #4

      Thanks for all of the replys.I never thought about water..

       what does "low voltage do" I mean what can you use it for..

        scott

      1. DanH | Oct 14, 2012 08:16am | #5

        Low voltage would be phone, cable TV, internet, maybe a doorbell/intercom, etc.  Basically all of your non-power wiring.

        1. danaho70 | Oct 14, 2012 09:47am | #6

          thanks dan..

      2. gfretwell | Oct 14, 2012 11:06am | #7

        Water is pretty handy in a shop, if for nothing else, just washing your hands. If this is just going to be gray water (no toilet) you can usually get away with simply dumping it out on a splash block in the yard. More elegant would be a small dry well, (30 gallon perforated trash can full of rocks buried in the yard). You can get a small under sink water heater pretty cheap.

  2. calvin | Oct 13, 2012 06:24pm | #2

    Extra pipe

    I agree fully in pulling "whatever" you might think of (phone,speaker, intercom (I know, old school), 3-4 way switching for outdoor shoplights,  NOW.

    And an extra pipe don't hurt neither

    1. DanH | Oct 13, 2012 08:52pm | #3

      You can't pull low-voltage through the same conduit as regular wiring, so install two conduits.

      1. dude | Oct 16, 2012 02:34am | #8

        When you say you cant pull low voltage through the same conduit as main feed is that code or does it cause electrical problems .

        I ran 3 inch pvc to my shop & pulled 100 amp cable through it plus 6 conductor intercom plus 8 conductors for phone ,alarm & fire & so far have had no problems 20 yrs later 

        I dident realize it might be wrong at the time .

        Water for the bathroom is in the same trench about 4 ft deep due to frost & has never frozen .

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          xxPaulCPxx | Oct 16, 2012 10:56am | #9

          Just imagine a cracked conductor touching a 120V line to your doorbell.  In the rain.

  3. sapwood | Oct 16, 2012 12:30pm | #10

    Your electrical contractor will be pulling the wire, so he should be the one to install the conduit. 

  4. gfretwell | Oct 16, 2012 12:46pm | #11

    There are 2 legal ways to pull both in one conduit.

    If all of the wire is part of  listed cables (power and low voltage cables)  the conduit becomes a duct. but you have to terminate them in separate boxes.,

    You can pull an innerduct through (another flexible conduit) and pull one of the voltages through that.

    It is a lot easier to just drop a separate conduit in the trench and not take any chances that an inspector will have a different opinion. Interferance in the low voltage might be an issue but only if tyou are not running coax or twisted pairs. These days I am not sure why anyone would run anything but twisted pair. Cat5/6

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