…things turn out better than I hope they will. I really like Hardi type siding, but also really like the natural look of stained wood siding. A couple years ago at a JLCLive show I stumbled onto this stain called “Fiber Cement Siding Stain” by Mason’s Select.
After getting the literature, some samples, and experimenting a little, I decided to give it a try. I was really concerned that the color would be too uniform on preprimed siding, but that was one of the great surprises – all the variations of yellows, reds, and browns we ended up with.
This isn’t the greatest photo. I think the siding looks a lot better than this to the naked eye. What do you folks think? Does this look like wood?
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Thanks for the tip. I like it. Is it possible to get more pictures? I was thinking about building a cabin in the mountains and cedar siding is encouraged. I however, would be more interested in a fire resistant finish like this.
WOW!
Tell me more!!! How do you apply it? What is the cost? Any warranties? How many coats? Got any close-ups? ...
I WANT INFO JIM!! COME ON, WHAT ELSE YA GOT?
Edit: Never mind... I'm all over it already! Here's a link for anyone else who was equally impressed: http://www.superdeck.com/masonsselect/6700spec.htm
Kevin Halliburton
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Edited 9/16/2003 4:39:09 PM ET by Wrecked Angle
Wow, Jim. That looks like cedar to me. Tucking that one in the back of the noodle for future reference.
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Jim,
Did you apply the stain after you put the siding on the wall or before? Horizontal or vertical spray pattern if you did? I'm trying to figure out how you got all of that variation from board to board. I would sure like to see that wall in a few years to see how well it is retaining the illusion. It sure looks like wood right now.
Kevin Halliburton
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Nice...
I expect real soon we'll see you building cabinets and furniture out of Hardi with that stain.
Was that factory primed? How many coats
That's wood.
Whose leg you trying to pull here ???
; )
P.S. You've got sawdust on your scanner again.
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We sprayed it on horses, two coats. Followed the directions on the can (that's a first). They said to flood coat it and let it sit flat so that it puddles in between the ridges. Sure enough, the stain thinned out pretty good on the high spots and that's where you now see yellow "grain" lines. Dries enough to recoat in two hours (out of direct sunlight to avoid cracking like aligator skin). Water based. Real easy to mix colors to get what you want. That lap siding is 1 part Mahogany - 1 part Redwood. The shingles we did with straight Redwood.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how this stands the test of time. So far the only downside is that when sunlight hits the house just so, there's a sheen because to pores are sealed over. But I'm hoping dust and grit in the air will scratch the surface up enough to cut down on that - it's not bad...but it's there at certain angles.
Yes, I have a bunch more photos I'll post. I'm going to the darkroom tomorrow night to print some more out. When I first scanned those negatives into my computer they were so over exposed they looked like hell. Last night I printed some contact sheets and just a couple individual prints and was so excited at the results I just had to post that one. The other one I printed last night is of my son just as we started siding - only interesting to us proud parents.
We sided the second story and gable ends with hardi shingles, which took the stain quite a bit differently since they are not preprimed (oh yeah, whoever asked, that lap siding was factory pre primed, I think that's the only way we get it here).
Luka - that's not the first time you've accused me of having sawdust on my scanner. Can't imagine where that could have come from. <BFG> Hey, those changes you made to the site look great. Thanks a million.
I just love it when things go better than I had hoped.
Jim , that looks good ,like wood from here in Illinois. But your Tyvec is not going to work ,you got it installed topside down. That will confuse the little water vapours and they will not be able to exit the house.
Don
An Australian buddy of mine told me that's the way...ah, forget it...
(hey, you don't have an aunt Tilly, do ya?)
Ifen aunt Tilly was there she would not be puttin the tyvec up (down) that way. Thats if you could find a ladder with a load rating of 450#
Now don't go taking for gospel what the guy in OZ tells you . Remember down there it has to be installed that way to be right side up.
jim
Unreal. Great job! All ya need to do now is dab in a few knots here and there...although its probably clear cedar..sorry : )
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Well I managed to post one photo, I guess I'll tempt fate by trying again. You can see the grain behind Todd.
Don Papenberg, you are one funny dude. Laughed right out loud, man. I sure miss those days.
Here's a shot of the same wall after we started the shingles. They ended up with less yellow, more dark browns than the lap, even though we stained them with Redwood, which is a lot lighter than the mix we used on the lap.
I see you are using the Tilly proof planks that you described in the old web X days. I made a 16" x16' and a 24"x16' . the latter one damn neer kilt me trying to put it up on some stick built scaffold. I fixed that , made myself some nice 14"x14' planks out of 10ga. aluminum step plate.
Yeah buddy. Those planks are HEAVY. Just tonight I was eyeballing some 20 guage steel studs lying out in my boneyard that I am gonna try building the next one out of. I'm gonna build some 12" wide work platforms the same lengths as my planks to use as the bench/guardrail out of steel studs too.
Same buddy that first told me about building those planks suggested trying steel studs to reduce weight. Smart guy. Probably why he doesn't crawl around nailing stuff together much anymore.
What's this "aluminum step plate" you're talking about?
If it will post ,Here is the plank.
I had some 16 ga steel studs but they were only 12' long . You will have to screw or poprivet the ply very close . I have a 20' aluminum frame plank with a 1/4" ply top and bottom. It is rivited every 2" .
That looks GREAT. While I likely won't go for the wood-stain look with all the stucco I have, experiences like yours have pretty well convinced me to use fiber cement on the fascia of my porch roof. Good option to know about for clients though!
Edit: It seems that the method of applying the stain (puddling) would make reapplication difficult if necessary down the line. Any thoughts on what your options are 5, 10, 15 years out?
Edited 9/18/2003 10:20:00 AM ET by Cloud Hidden
Holy moly, no wonder it wouldn't post the first time, I forgot to resize that mamma jamma - WAY too big. Okay, here's a shot of Todd trimming the bottom off a spline. You get a pretty good view of the grain behind his head.
I think you raise a good point, Cloud. If you apply the stain heavy enough to puddle it will run down a vertical surface, right? Well, I'm hoping in my case, the roof overhangs will keep the rain off the walls and the stain will last a lot more than 15 years, but time will tell. In the meantime, I think it's worth the risk.
Okay, trying this again...
That looks fantastic Jim.
A freebie.
; )
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That looks cool. Yeah.
Now if they could put something in the planks so they arn't so floppy, I'd like the stuff even better.
I hope you didn't leave that housewrap on there upside down, don't you know there's a top and bottom? (G) . I'm afraid you're gonna have to tear off the siding if you did.
Jim,
Sorry this is late, I haven't been scanning this thread in a while. All I want to say is.."You have got to be kidding me....that's cement? It looks incredible."
I don't understand! I cut it twice and it's still too short!
Jim,
I'm about to take the plunge and use the HardiPlank/MasonSelect combination on my new home. Framing starts next week. Was just curious as to how the stain has held up over the three years since this thread was started.
Just found this thread Jimbeau, sorry.
That stain looks great. Better than when we first installed it because there's just a little less sheen to it. I'm pretty sure as a result of airborne abrasives.
This house takes a little water on the siding, too. And even that side looks great. That stuff is a winner in my book man.Who's the cat that won't cop out, when there's danger all about?
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Just saw the original part of this thread - just stunning!
Have to file this away.
Forrest
Wooden pump jacks, and wooden planks.
Man, you are old school.
;-)
Don't call me daughter.
"Man, you are old school."
Just cheap. (us yankees call that "frugal". Or maybe "thrifty"). I WILL cop to the "old" part, though.
I do have some aluminum planks that telescope. I like them a lot, very versitile, but I like those torsion box planks for setting up on a whole house like that. Who's the cat that won't cop out, when there's danger all about?
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