Hello everyone, I’m building a hose in Orange County that gets false roof eave tails. The roof is a gable type roof and gets a 6×8 rough sawn barge. I’m trying to decide what’s the best way to hold that barge in place. There are false tails going under the barge beam. I’ve seen other homes in the area and the framers there are bearing that beam on the ridge and wall corner false tails. The problem is that those tails do not get the square look (no seat cut) they are place under barge beam in plane with roof slope. The homes that I’ve seen have a mixed look at gable eaves, ridge and wall corner tails square and the rest sloped. I hope you guys can share some of your ideas so I get clean look on those gables. All my gale tails are set at an angle to plane with roof slope.
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Is the roof stick framed? I assume so... it seems like you would drop the first common rafter at the gable end and let the lookouts (I think what you are calling the tails?) extend from the 2nd common rafter out over top of the gable end and then butt into the barge board (fly rafter). Or do the tails (or lookouts) terminate below the barge board?
Is this the kind of thing you are talking about? basically a fake purlin? Or maybe I'm way off on a different page?
BTW - are the soffits to be open? If so, what is the roof sheathing to be?
Orange county - VA, NC, FLA NY? I assume you are in Calif based on your name and terminology... :-)
Edited 2/4/2007 3:26 pm ET by Matt
Thanks for your reply Matt. I was thinking of using the fake tails under fly rafter for support. But I wasn't thinking of the outlookers. My overall overhang is 16 in. so the outlookers answer my question.
Not sure I answered anything - just trying to get a conversation going and to get some of the framers around here to comment. I would imagine that a "6x8 rough sawn barge" would need some real support... Was the pic I posted the look you need to achieve? Are they open soffits?
Outlooks and long pieces of roof sheathing on the overhangs, no 3'. Just 5'&7'. If your rafters/trusses are on 2' centers.
I'm a little confused too. Usually when talking about roof framing, "tails", whether fake or not, is the part of the rafter that extends down past the eave wall. I don't see how that could support your barge board.
Like Matt suggested, if you want it to be decorative, you could use large lookout beams. If you just want to support the barge from dropping, you could let in 2x4's into your roof framing and cover them up with a soffit.
I'm wondering if the confusing term here is barge? That means rake board, or fly rafter, or verge board--the angled one on the gable end. Is that the 6x8 we're talking about?
"verge board" - that is a new one on me...
I've heard "barge board" is actually a bastardization of "verge board."