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fiberglass sandwiched between rigid foam in vaulted ceiling

tgmuller | Posted in Energy, Heating & Insulation on January 19, 2013 11:12am

sorry, initially posted this in construction techniques

I’m going to finish my bonus room above the garage of my cape cod.  I’m trying to determine the most cost effective way of insulating the 2×6 roofline in the bedrooms.  Any insight would be appreciated.  I plan on having the assembly vented.  My initial plan to create the 1″ air gap from the soffit to ridge vent was to use thin plywood nailed to 1×1 pieces of wood.  However, it seems a better use of money would be to use 1 inch of rigid polyiso foam for the vent channel.  The foam is more expensive, but at least it gives me an r value of 6.   So to get my R value of 38 my assembly would be:

plywood roof underlayment

1″ air gap

1′ polyiso    r6

fur roof joists out 2′ to accept r 19 fiberglass batts.

2″ rigid polyiso foam board r12

total r value of darn near 38

 

any thoughts?  my concern is sandwiching the fiberglass between the 2 layers of foam

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  1. calvin | Jan 20, 2013 07:14am | #1

    tg

    in the event you don't get any or enough information or opinion here,  ask over at Green Building Advisor.

    there's a drawing and perhaps members only information in depth HERE

    If you find anything of interest or information others might be interested in, come on back and post it or it's link.

    thanks.

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    Perry525 | Jan 21, 2013 07:12am | #2

    Insulation between and below rafters.

    Air that is trapped in a space less than 19mm wide will provide

    excellent insulation, as the space is too small to allow a

    circulation to start, it does not allow transfer of heat from one

    side to the other.

    However, you seem to be indicating that the channel will be

    vented to the outside, and of course this will then transfer

    your heat outside at a high rate. Not a good idea!

    A better way, is to fill the spaces between the rafters with

    sheets of polystyrene or similar closed cell products.

    A filling 6 inches thick with another 2 inch thick layer of

    polystyrene sheet below the rafters, covered with dry wall, will

    give you a very warm roof. 30 minute fire resistant ceiling.

    The layer below the rafters will stop the rafters acting as

    a heat bridge,

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      xxPaulCPxx | Jan 22, 2013 03:53pm | #4

      That air channel is outsid eht foam, not inside it.  He would be creating foam chutes so the unconditioned air gap is between the roof deck and the top sid eof the foam board.  Yes, he could fill the full 5.5" with rigid foam board, but that would be pricey and a pain.

  3. DanH | Jan 21, 2013 07:22am | #3

    Don't worry about where you posted.  Except for the Tavern, pretty much everything gets read by the regulars.

    No harm in sandwiching the fiberglass between two layers of foam like that.

    (Leaving the foam exposed on the top side is a bad idea in brush fire country, but that's probably not you.  But you need to cover the foam on the bottom side with drywall.)

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    Perry525 | Jan 24, 2013 09:30am | #5

    Insulation - expence

    Yes it may be expensive but, it will last the life of the building and it will improve all year round comfort - an added bonus is that he will have snow on his roof, long after everyone elses has gone.

    An alternative, place the fibreglass batts between layers of polystyrene - this will improve the overall performance.

    1. DanH | Jan 24, 2013 07:27pm | #6

      An alternative, place the fibreglass batts between layers of polystyrene - this will improve the overall performance.

      That's exactly what he proposes, only using polyiso, and polyiso has a higher R value.

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