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Finish Nailers

7dywknd | Posted in Tools for Home Building on September 28, 2006 11:10am

All right guys (and gals) go easy on me on this question as this is my first post here. What is the difference between a straight finish nailer and an angled finish nailer? I am interested in the DeWalt cordless series but dont know which one to buy. I will be using it for crown moulding mostly.

Thanks,

Chris

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  1. nikkiwood | Sep 29, 2006 01:26am | #1

    Generally speaking, the angled guns are for 15 gauge finishing nails, and the straight guns are for 18 gauge nails.

    You can also buy 16 Gauge guns -- which can either be either straight or angled.

    EDIT: the angled magazines make it a little easier to get into tight spaces.

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    Edited 9/28/2006 6:28 pm by nikkiwood

  2. ANDYSZ2 | Sep 29, 2006 03:44am | #2

    The Dewalt cordless is a 16 gauge.I would recommend the angled as it works better in awkward positions and feels more balanced.

    I am really impressed with the dewalt and use it every day.

    ANDYSZ2

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  3. hvtrimguy | Sep 29, 2006 06:12am | #3

    Haven't used the dewalt gun , but all my finish nailers that my crew and I use are angled to allow for easier nailing in corners. especially on crown. the larger gauge nails with a small head actually does a better job of pulling things tighter together when nailed as well. Senco has been my brand of choice. not the cheapest but the nails always sink no matter what the material and the guns are durable. oiless also means no spray of oil mist onto the trim. not a big deal on paint grade but on clear stuff it can stain. SFN40 (senco) is my recomendation. needs a hose and compressor though. may not be what you are looking for. good luck.

    "it aint the work I mind,
    It's the feeling of falling further behind."

    Bozini Latini

  4. Jencar | Oct 01, 2006 06:16am | #4

    I have a Senco cordless finish nailer that still works well after 3 years of sporadic use. (Don't know if it's still available) It's balanced pretty well.
    I looked at the DeWalt recently and thought that it was too heavy and clunky.
    You might take a look at the Paslode Impulse cordless finish nailers. The price is comparable, (got mine through Tool Crib for about $280) and the light weight makes them comfortable to use overhead. They work with a combination of a gas cylinder and battery, that can shoot 200-300 nails per charge.
    Welcome!
    Jennifer



    Edited 9/30/2006 11:22 pm by Jencar

  5. bc | Oct 01, 2006 03:18pm | #5

    angled nails tend to be more expensive ( a few dollars per box more). Also dewalt just released an even more angled gun... I have the dewalt cordless nailgun works great but it is heavy.

    Here is makita's (I can t read Jap either)...

    http://www.makita.co.jp/product/li_ion/pt350drf/pt350drf.html

    1. BUIC | Oct 02, 2006 02:56am | #14

       When you get to the Makita page right click your mouse. "Translate this page" should be one of the options. If not it might say "page info" and that'll take you to "translate".

       Buic

      1. User avater
        Ted W. | Oct 02, 2006 03:33am | #16

        I had the Senco AirFree 41 a couple of years ago till it got caught in the rain (water and electronics don't mix well) and was pretty satisfied with it. The winding of the flywheel took about 1/2 second before it struck the nail, but I got used to it.

        Now I have the 18V DeWalt angled and it's okay. I wasn't sure if it's heavier or I'm just older, so thanks for clearing that up folks - I feel much better now.

        I also had the Passlode Impulse trimmer and framer, which I sold on ebay. Gas packs and batteries and nail jambs.... nuff said.

        I only use the hoseless nailers for small fixes. If I'm running trim all day, or even half a day, I prefer the power only a compressor can provide. Thinner nails, more consistent depth setting, more power for harder woods... air is just overall better.

        My current air trimmer is a Ridgid. The magazine is shorter than the Senco or Bostitch, so easier to get into shelving and inside cabinets. I also like that the Ridgid has easy to access adjustments, like depth and exhause direction.

        As for quotes, I disagree with all of ya! --------------------------------------------------------

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        1. HowardChang | May 18, 2007 12:57pm | #26

          Ted,

            Did you ever have the chance to use the latest Cordless finish series(originally AirFree). It is claimed on the Senco Website that this revised version can run 3-4 nails per second.

            has anyone found this to be true?

  6. MisterT | Oct 01, 2006 03:39pm | #6

    You a pro or a DIY???

    angled are mostly 15 ga.

    straight are mostly 16 ga.

    18 ga are BRAD nailers not finish nailers (semanitics really)

    angled fit into tighter spots

    15 ga is better for hanging doors and hardwood trim

    16 ga in a good all around finish nailer.

    18 ga is good for the thin edge of stock casings and stitching miters

    get a 23 or 21 ga pinner for mitered returns. etc

    most importantly get a real gun...

    Hitachi or senco or doufast or senco or max.

    yellow crap is yellow crap, bostich or dewalt

    the rest are knockoffs...

    Namaste

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    1. rwjiudice | Oct 01, 2006 07:00pm | #7

      The content of your post is interesting. It's what I look for in reading the posts on this forum. Thank you for your input.

      Now, drop the "cute crap" quotations that you typed in large print and color at the bottom of your post.  It takes away from whatever valid info you have to contribute.

      If I'm looking for political opinions or other ramblings, I can read the editorial pages of a newspaper or watch cable TV.

      Thanks.

      (By the way, the 'content' of your rambling quotes does not offend me - I'm a radical escapee of the 60's- just the idea of people wasting time / space and energy)

      1. Jencar | Oct 01, 2006 07:16pm | #8

        I can't believe that you said that. The man has every right to place the "cute crap" at the end of his posts. If you find that offensive, this probably isn't the place for you to be seeking advice. Control freak.

      2. wrudiger | Oct 01, 2006 08:12pm | #9

        Click on My Forums near the top of the screen.  Click on My Preferences in the column on the left.  Check the box "Do not show signatures" (or wording to that effect) and save your preferences.  Then you won't be bothered with all the tag lines.

        1. rwjiudice | Oct 01, 2006 08:59pm | #10

          Thanks!!! Appreciate the help....I DO value the posts..... just can't understand why some folks have to quote others repeatedly.... guess they don't have any original thoughts themselves !!! Well, I do admit some quotes do make me think and sometmes smile....

          Again, thanks !!!!

          1. alrightythen | Oct 01, 2006 11:03pm | #11

            dude ...different strokes for different folks...

            but then you go on to say how some quotes make you think or sometimes smile...

            so what is it? you hate em or you don't - what was the point for ragging on him ...

            and why do you have to understand everybody... the key to peace is acceptance not understanding - you're married aren't you?

            well anyways..now you know how to get rid of em...

            cheers

            PS his original thought was at the bottom.

            Edited 10/1/2006 4:04 pm ET by alrightythen

      3. oldbeachbum | Oct 01, 2006 11:50pm | #12

        Boo to you, too. 

         T can probably defend himself very well,  but, the bottom line is you have been on this forum long enough to know what goes on.  Why just pick on one individual? 

         If you're computer savy then figure out how to avoid the comments, as described or go elsewhere. 

         To each his own.  We don't all agree about things but we do tolerate each other's opinions on many topics.  The freedom of speech and expression, isn't that what we are all about in this country?  There's been a lot of press about it lately.

        IMHO.....bum...a bad day at the beach is better than a good day anywhere else... :)

      4. MisterT | Oct 02, 2006 04:03am | #18

        How's this:

        BITE ME!!!Namaste

        "The truth, when told does nothing but bolster a mans character." -Big Cal Stew 2006

        "There are 2 kinds of people in the world, those who divide the world into 2 kinds of people and everyone else"   -Gloria Steinham

        "The shrub administration is a bunch of Focking CrIminals" -Me

        1. bc | Oct 02, 2006 04:40am | #19

          that's original

          1. MisterT | Oct 02, 2006 12:47pm | #22

            "Bite Me"

            that better???

             Namaste

            "The truth, when told does nothing but bolster a mans character." -Big Cal Stew 2006

            "There are 2 kinds of people in the world, those who divide the world into 2 kinds of people and everyone else"   -Gloria Steinham

            "The shrub administration is a bunch of Focking CrIminals" -Me

          2. andybuildz | Oct 05, 2006 03:54pm | #24

            Takes all kinds T...ya give the guy a great reply and he slaps ya in yer face.

            Go figga : )Creation arises, is sustained for awhile, and then things change. That’s the dance.

                                               

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            IMERC | Oct 05, 2006 03:58pm | #25

            just concise and to the point... 

             

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  7. FlyingContractor | Oct 02, 2006 12:39am | #13

    I've used a Senco for years, no jams, works well, and light and easy.  Not cheap but worth it.  It's an air run tool though, not cordless.

  8. BruceCM | Oct 02, 2006 03:16am | #15

    FWIW, I've been using the PC FN 250, and have run about 6 boxes of 16 ga. nails through it. I think it's jamed once or twice since I've had it. Even so, its got a nice little pop-up feature on the nose so you don't have to unscrew anything. Depth setting works great, the rubber nose doesn't mar...even cedar. And it shoots 3/4" to 2.5" nails that don't cost much at all. However, I sure could have used the agled feature for a bunch of crown I put up not too long ago.

    BruceM

  9. MikeSmith | Oct 02, 2006 03:50am | #17

    next week i'll buy our 2d FN42  Bostich

    it's a great finish gun .. dial-in depth...  this is about our 7th or 8th Bostich finish gun.. since i've been buying them since they started making them

    for all around trim work , it's fine

    for smaller applique work we use one of our bostich brad guns 

    lot's of other guns out there.. but we tend to stick with bostich so we don't have to worry about inventorying the wrong nails

    every once in a while i'll buy a different gun... like an Hitachi.. or a Max.. but most of the time the guys will grab a bostich

    Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
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      zak | Oct 02, 2006 05:35am | #21

      I've got a bostitch FN42 also.  It never lets me down, it's oil free, and it's incredibly light- I think it weighs less than my 18g Hitachi.

      One thing though- do they sell a trigger kit to make it bump fire?  It the only nail gun of mine that has a sequential trigger.zak

      "When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

      "so it goes"

       

      1. MikeSmith | Oct 02, 2006 12:52pm | #23

        i  don't know... first thing we do is convert all of them to sequential fire.. i'll ask RoyMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

  10. happyframer | Oct 02, 2006 05:16am | #20

    I'm a new home builder. Previous framer. Part time trimmer.

    Cordless is the way to go. I love my paslode angled trim and frame gun. As far as my vote goes, cordless and paslode have made me happy.

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