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Finishing nail holes in stained trim

user-327554 | Posted in General Discussion on April 5, 2004 05:47am

My daughter has pine trim inside her house which she intends to finish with oak colored polyshade.  I have experimented with various alternatives for filling the finishing nail holes (fill before applying poly, fill after, drive finish nails through painter’s tape to confine wood filler to hole) and have not found a technique which hides the nail holes.  Any ideas?

 

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    IMERC | Apr 05, 2004 05:53pm | #1

    Use anything but Polyshades....

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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      Sphere | Apr 05, 2004 05:59pm | #3

      no fair, I was still typeing that..

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        IMERC | Apr 05, 2004 06:22pm | #5

        Said it all with a lot less mumbo jumdo.Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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    Sphere | Apr 05, 2004 05:58pm | #2

    your gonna hate tour self if you use "POLYSHADES"..that crap shold be outlawed. Pine wants a sealer, minwax conditioner or I prefer Zinnsers "Seal_Cote"..

    Seal, Stain, Poly if you must..there are many options for top cote..Deft Lacquer works well with a brush, but smells a lot..anyway..Then, wax crayon nailfill..buff off and you are a hero..hint..use a bic lighter to warm the crayon a bit, and a popsicle stick to fill the hole..buff off excess with a clean t-shirt type rag..after ya scrape the majority with the stick.

    Do your self a favor..stay away from the polyshades..period.

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  3. andybuildz | Apr 05, 2004 06:13pm | #4

    polyshades are a DIY dream....it sucks though IMO. "Lazy persons finish".

    Use the real deal.

    I love using the Minwax 2 part apoxy for fillin' anything.....well, almost anything......lol.

    Be sure to sand it within the time recommended on the can.

    You can sculpt the Statue of Liberty with that stuff.

    Be well        filled,

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      IMERC | Apr 05, 2004 06:32pm | #7

      You furgot to mention that it washes off with plain water and scratches really easy and doesn't stick to anything and and peels off like scotch tape and doesn't blend with what is already applied and won't soak in and runs and hides at the first sign of dirt and moisture and you can't get rid of the brush marks and other than that it's a fine product......

      To leave on the store shelf...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

      1. ANDYBUILD | Apr 06, 2004 12:23am | #9

        I never had that problem."My life is my practice"

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          Sphere | Apr 06, 2004 01:08am | #11

          I tink he meant the polyshades dude...

          be shaded

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          IMERC | Apr 06, 2004 01:39am | #12

          The polyshades dood.....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

  4. FastEddie1 | Apr 05, 2004 06:28pm | #6

    Generally speaking, you should fill nail holes in stained wood after the finish is on, because if you fill first, there's the chance that the filler could smear onto the good wood and interfere with the stain/finish.  Also, after the stain/finish is done, you can best select the crayon color that blends with the wood color.

    First, return the can of polyshades to Home Depot and get some good stuff.

    Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

  5. gdavis62 | Apr 05, 2004 06:32pm | #8

    Spend some time at the finishing forum at http://www.homesteadfinishing.com

    Your daughter will be happiest if she first seals the pine with one of the many available quick-drying sealers.  The pine will blotch otherwise and look terrible.

    After you have decided on a sealer-stain-topcoat approach, then try some different colors of the Famowood solvent-based filler to see what looks best.

    I know we have made a three-step process out of what looked to be a simple slap-it-in Minwax job, but hey, it is worth it to have it look good.

    Good luck.

  6. DaveHeinlein | Apr 06, 2004 12:54am | #10

    Fill the holes after the first finish coat, so the 'smear' can be cleaned off. There is a product aptly named 'Color Putty' that is an oil/pigment mix. It comes in a couple dozen colors, plus you can mix them to get a closer tone. Cleans up with mineral spirits. Put the final finish coat *over* the putty.

  7. maverick | Apr 06, 2004 02:00am | #13

    If you are gonna use color putty on pine go a shade darker, the pine will catch up as it darkens. otherwise you will have nail holes really showing.

    No need to put finish coat over putty, we're not talking furniture here. A good blend job wiped with a dry rag will hide the holes.

    And I agree- polyshades is crap!

  8. Piffin | Apr 06, 2004 02:49am | #14

    As I was reading your post, I was wondering, "Why's he worried about the appearance of the nail holes if he's going to use Polyshades on the wood? " It looks so blotchy that you'll be seeing nailholes where there aren't any.

     

     

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      IMERC | Apr 06, 2004 02:51am | #15

      Seems as though Polyshades is a might popular...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

      1. Piffin | Apr 06, 2004 03:10am | #16

        You could say it gets universal recognition. 

         

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    2. r_ignacki | Apr 06, 2004 03:15am | #17

      What in the hell are Polyshades?

      sounds like a kind of "sunglasses"

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        Sphere | Apr 06, 2004 03:31am | #18

        minwax's contribution to furniture refinishers everywhere...where ever any one used polyshades..some refinisher is stripping it off..

        stain and poly mixed in the same can..

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      2. Piffin | Apr 06, 2004 03:34am | #19

        You'll want to hide behind sunglasses if you ever use polyshades.

        It is a line of finishes marketed by Minwax, a company that makes plenty of otherwise good stains and finishes. It is a mix of polyurethene and stain that goes on together. You need to be sure to keep it mixed evenly while dipping the brush but it still looks like what it is, a onetooldoesitall item. The word Blotchy got used here a lot for a reason. 

         

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  9. Tomar | Apr 06, 2004 05:19am | #20

    Seems like everyone agrees on the 'answer' to the question you didn't ask, but as far as the answer to the one you did ask, go with Dave Heinlein's answer.   T R

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