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Flashing overhang. Need your op.

blownonfuel | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 8, 2009 10:33am

I have my chair rail trim up on my fascia and am putting up my roof drip edge. I had some drip edge made up so that the trim would not be covered up. I put up a piece but wanted to get some opinions on the amount of overhang. The overhand is about 7/16s. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think.

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  1. theslateman | Mar 08, 2009 11:19pm | #1

    It's hard to tell from your pictures.

    Make them a bit bigger if you can.

    1. blownonfuel | Mar 08, 2009 11:27pm | #2

      How about this?

      1. mike_maines | Mar 08, 2009 11:59pm | #3

        It's still hard to tell.  Does the dripedge extend beyond your chair rail/drip board?  If it doesn't, it's not going to do much good. 

        1. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 12:02am | #4

          Hello Mike. Yes it extends past the trim by about 7/16s.

        2. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 12:09am | #5

          Here is another pics with a piece of scrap cut for reference.

      2. theslateman | Mar 09, 2009 12:21am | #6

        I really like the trim , but to me it looks like the metal comes straight out and is hemmed  - doesn't come back down at all.

        If that is the case I think capillary action may allow water to wick back under and cause problems with your great moulding.

        Like Mike said it's still hard to see the detailing.

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          Sphere | Mar 09, 2009 12:58am | #7

          Yeah, I see that too. I also see that the chair rail goes right into the outward curve w/out a decent flat up top like we see with crown or shingle mould. I think he left off the downleg of the DE to keep that first big rounded part showing.  Reg. DE would have a hollow behind there where that round meets the sheathing plane.

          I would have packed it down with a 1x1 or so.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          1. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 01:44am | #8

            You pretty much hit the nail on the head Sphere. That was the trim moma wanted so I had to make do and keep moma happy. I know it is not the ideal setup to keep rain off of the trim but I hope it will last down here in Texas for a little while at least. I'll probably overhang the shingles by an 1/8th so I hope that will help a little also.

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            Sphere | Mar 09, 2009 01:48am | #9

            Momma's always right, and she has half the money and all the nookie. Do as she wants and shut up. LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          3. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 01:57am | #10

            Yup. BTW, what is the nailing schedule for flashing/drip edge and what size nails?Thanks

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            Sphere | Mar 09, 2009 01:59am | #11

            I use 1 1/4 roofers ( gun or hand) about every 16". Copper nails for copper.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          5. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 02:35am | #12

            Thanks S.

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            Matt | Mar 09, 2009 02:39am | #13

            Sphere is right about doing what you are told, but one step beyond that is that I don't involve DW in such decisions.   Last house I did for DW and I when we moved in there was a few: She: "Oh that is nice.  Did we pick that out?"  ME: "Yea... we picked that out..." :-)

            The drip edge really needs to turn down some.  Otherwise you may as well not use it.  On my houses any such trim as you show is PVC or bent metal.

          7. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 02:59am | #17

            Thanks Matt. If the trim does not last Azek will be on next. I'll have to special order it since they don't carry it down here in my neck of the woods. I think the heat down here in Texas might swell the trim so you would need some pretty big gaps to allow for the expansion.

          8. seeyou | Mar 09, 2009 02:40am | #14

            I'll probably overhang the shingles by an 1/8th

            I overhang shingles an inch.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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            Sphere | Mar 09, 2009 02:52am | #15

            Good catch, tthat went right past me.

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          10. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 02:57am | #16

            Really, an inch? Asphalt shingles? If so even better.

          11. seeyou | Mar 09, 2009 03:01am | #18

            Really, an inch? Asphalt shingles?

            Always. Eaves and rakes.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

          12. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 03:11am | #19

            Even better. Thanks

          13. bk24 | Mar 09, 2009 05:34am | #20

            Just a word of advice.  Don't put a nail through the drip edge where one piece overlaps another.  If you do, and the roof gets beat on by the sun, you can get a hump when when the drip edges expand lengthwise.  Allow the ends of overlapping pieces to slide past one another.

          14. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 05:44pm | #22

            Thanks BK.

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            Matt | Mar 09, 2009 02:46pm | #21

            To second what the resident roofing experts said, 1" over hang is good.  Much more than that and the edge of the shingles droop and then don't lay flat, especially with 3-tabs.  I've tried telling them to do 1/2" and the problem is that if they get a little off on their "straight" line then there can little or no overhang which is the worse scenario - or, I dono, maybe the roof edge wasn't exactly straight - which is probably more likely.    None the less, doing 1/8" would be a really bad idea.

            BTW - what is that blown-on-fuel?

          16. blownonfuel | Mar 09, 2009 05:50pm | #23

            Thanks Matt for the info. Blown on fuel is a drag racing term. You are probably familiar with it, if not, it means a car with a supercharger that is using nitromethane as fuel. Go to youtube and type in top fuel dragster or funny car or my favorite fuel altered. When people say that t.v. does not do something justice you can count that twice for anything that is blown on fuel. You really need to see one of those cars in person to really appriciate the power, about 8000 h.p..

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            Matt | Mar 10, 2009 01:35pm | #25

            Oh - OK - I knew the term "blown" ment supercharger but didn't know the other stuff - ie a special type of fuel.  Sometimes though when I look at the 'handle' I see: blow-non-fuel....

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            popawheelie | Mar 09, 2009 07:03pm | #24

            I was taught that you overhang it the width of your finger. Not to argue but it works cause you have one around to measure with.

            Edited 3/9/2009 12:11 pm ET by popawheelie

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