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   seeyou | Mar 15, 2009 03:04am | #1

   If it's below a 2/12 it will probably leak worse with shingles.

   http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   Piffin | Mar 15, 2009 03:20am | #2

   probably?(he said with one eyebrow raised and a silly grin) 

    

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   seeyou | Mar 15, 2009 03:30am | #3

   Well, I guess it will only leak when it rains.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   Piffin | Mar 15, 2009 04:06am | #4

   shoot!
   A roof like that could store enough water to keep leaking for a week after it rains 

    

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   Piffin | Mar 15, 2009 04:12am | #5

   Hope you don't take it personal.

   for a couple few years, just the I&W over what you have is better than nailing shingles on even if they are free.

   There is a product that goes on just like the I&W, but has a mineral surface like roll roofing. The name brand I am familiar with is Polyglas.

    

    

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   JoeJoyce | Mar 15, 2009 05:53pm | #12

   "just the I&W over what you have is better"  - What does 'I&W' mean?

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   seeyou | Mar 15, 2009 06:05pm | #14

   Ice and water shield. Grace or it's equivalent.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   JoeJoyce | Mar 15, 2009 06:22pm | #15

   Since I haven't done a roof before, I have some basic questions:

   The I and W - is this an underlayment and something goes on top?

   I guess what I am looking to do is strip the old rolled roofing off and replace it with something straight forward and inexpensive (meaning $200-300 at most), but don't what exists out there.

   THanks for you help - Joe

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   seeyou | Mar 15, 2009 06:31pm | #16

   Tear off the existing material. Install I&WS (which is a peel and stick underlayment) and then cover it with 30lb felt. UV rays will break down the I&WS if it's not covered. Plastic cap nails and all will run you a little over $100 for 2 sq. Won't be pretty, but I guess what's there now isn't either.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   JoeJoyce | Mar 15, 2009 06:36pm | #17

   I think I'll try it.  Anything will look better than what is on the roof now: a  blue 20' x 30' painters tarp held down by nails and rocks! 

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   Piffin | Mar 15, 2009 08:27pm | #18

   Ice and water shield - peel'n'stick membrane. Normally not for exposure to the UV of the sum for more than 90 days, but i've seen it last a couple years, and this sounds like a disposable unit. 

    

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   RobWes | Mar 15, 2009 05:06am | #6

   A slam bam thank you mam flat roof isn't that much.

   Termination bar right to the siding then trim the excess below the bar. Maybe a few plates in the center and glue the edges.

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   Marson | Mar 15, 2009 05:08am | #7

   Menards sells a 10 by maybe 25 roll of EPDM for something like 70 bucks. Don't glue it--you can take it with you when you leave!

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   theslateman | Mar 15, 2009 12:59pm | #8

   It's liable to move before he does unless it's secured somehow.

    

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   Piffin | Mar 15, 2009 04:25pm | #9

   surely there are flashings and penetrations to deal with.I'm amazed they could sell EPDM that cheap! If I could find that, I'd have a bunch fore for tool covers overnight tarps on jobs 

    

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   Dam_inspector | Mar 15, 2009 04:36pm | #10

   There's a Menards 30 or so miles away. Still haven't gone there, but I hear they have some good prices. They don't have an internet presence like Lowes and HD do, so I have only seen the sales flyers, which are always misleading.

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   seeyou | Mar 15, 2009 04:49pm | #11

   I'm amazed they could sell EPDM that cheap!

   Probably .045. On my typical EPDM or TPO job, the accessories costs way more than the actual membrane.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   RobWes | Mar 15, 2009 05:53pm | #13

   If it's installed w/o glue be prepared to go looking for it.

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   Marson | Mar 15, 2009 10:31pm | #19

   Well of course he'd have to fasten it. He could just fold it over the fascia run a termination bar around. It ain't going nowhere! Point is he could just unscrew the termination bar when he's done and have a very bombproof tarp in the deal.

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   RobWes | Mar 16, 2009 01:03am | #20

   My point is you've never seen them take off when no glue is used?

   It doesn't take much to get that puppy up into the wind.