I have both framing nailer and 16ga finish nailers in cordless Paslode and pneumatic. Here’s the problem or question I should say. Is it worth holding on to both? I seem to have gone the way of the cordless and have a hard time getting myself to pull out the compressor, hoses and everything else that goes along with pneumatic. Just wondering what everyone has to say before I do something stupid and get rid of my pneumatic framer and finish nailers.
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Always good to have a backup. I treat power tools like Noah treated animals- 2 of each kind!
2 hammers, 2 tape measures, 2 skil saws. It's always good to have two of everything in case your primary breaks down. I have one of the dewalt battery powered nails gun, but I always carry my pneumatics as backups.
Or your coworkers break them!
So far so good. I always beleave in two of everything as well. I'm trying to get to the root of this. What if I had two of the cordless? So I guess what I'm trying to say is: What is better Cordless or pneumatic when it comes to nailers? Thanks for the info so far!
The cordless are great for punch out or small jobs, but for any decent use, I prefer my air guns, they are much lighter, and (in my experience),more reliable
>> The cordless are great for punch out or small jobs, but for any decent use, I prefer my air guns, they are much lighter, and (in my experience),more reliable << and cheaper to operate. The only thing I feed my pneumatics is nails and an occasional drop of oil.
I'm a firm believer in two is one and one is none. The tools are paid for, hold em, the day you sell them is the day you'll need them. It's Murphy and his crazy law.--
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My 23ga. gun was acting up this week, so I switched to the 18ga. gun and it was not setting pins either... obviously it was time to move up to the 16 ga... that two layers of maple wood must have been really hard... ...either that or I unplugged the compressor during the lunch break. DUH! All my guns are now working again. ;o) Darn pneumatic guns are finicky around 40 psi.
I've done that, too. LOL--
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Once I was using a customer's compressor, pancake style. My Bostitch coil framer was not working so I fieldstripped it to clean and still no go. Then I noticed the hose had hit the switch. Boy did I feel stupid.
For those who have fought for it Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.
Edited 11/22/2008 9:10 pm ET by rasconc
I went through both of my pin nailers and had the 18ga apart on the work bench when I remembered I was painting yesterday ... duh
You are right at 40-50 they don't do much.
murphy's law works in reverse too.I have a lot of double tools where I buy the replacement when I see one on sale and the old one is hinting that it is on it's last legs and ready to expire.As soon as the old tool sees that new one ready to take over, it puffs out its chest, stands up straight, and starts walking the line again, ready for another 5-10 years
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Never had a nail gun do that, but my old dog sure perked up when we got another recently. Haven't seen him run and play like that in a long time.--
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Trucks will do it too. Just drive in the dealer to browse the new ones and it will suddenly start running better, starting instantly, and not overheating....
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But, it doesn't work with wives does it? I think that's where we'll see the limits of Murphy's Inverse Law.--
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Oh yes, certainly!You will perk right up, lose that pot belly, and start buying her dinner when she starts looking at younger men
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No it works in reverse there, mine just gets more ornery if I look at the young one who could take care of the light work (;-)For those who have fought for it Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.
Ain't that the truth!Aitchkay
Actually, I was talking about tools, but yeah, wives, too!AitchKay
Funny, I've noticed that phenomena also.
JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
Yeah, funny part is that now that I don't have a bunch of employees tearing them up all the time, they don't seem to die. Even the ones that I want to go belly up keep going. Really ticks me off.
One of my rotozips gave me all kinds of problems for years, the fan melted off the shaft, then broke, only has a few fins left. The dang thing screams like a banshee, and gets too hot to touch, and will occasionally throw chunks out that it seems should be important but it just won't #### out. I carry a spare with me to every job, thinking it's going to die, and it never does. But I'm too cheap to just throw it away, I want to squeeze every last ounce of life out of it I guess.
ditto on the help creating more tools overhead.
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What if your out working and run out of fuel thought you had more but can't find it or no place to buy more ,need to finish up. quess what neither of your two cordless are going to work. sold all my cordless i use a mini compressor for punch if i need to punch something out
Is it worth holding on to both?
I have the Paslode framer... It quit on me when I needed it most, I didn't have a backup, so I went to Home Dep. and rented one....$50.00 for the day.
The silver lining to bad timing and a big need to getting the sheathing on was that when I took it back, I saw a big banner: "Ask about our rental tools sale"....
It turned out that the Paslode framer I rented was up for sale and I owed $50 for the rental. For $150 minus $50..., they allowed me to count the rental $50 in on the purchase. I got a case, charger, battery, and an almost new looking Paslode. Turned out that the problem on my old Paslode was a faulty battery that showed charged but was dead. A new battery would cost another $50, but I'm using the one battery pack for both, at least until one of the big box stores send one of those $20 off a $50 purchase.... ;>)
Keep your backup, you'll need it sooner or later.
Bill
Have they improved the cordless? Last one I used took seconds to cycle, so you couldn't bam, bam, bam run it along to nail a row of nails down sheathing or whatever and letting it bump-fire. Unless they've changed to allow that, I would keep my pneumatic gun.
They never were designed to be able to bump fire, but they will shoot as fast as you can move it and pull the trigger again. if it took seconds for each cycle, you had issues with low battery or it needed to be cleaned
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I have the paslode pneumatic frammer and gas powered framer and two trimmers.
My guys have senco pneumatic trimmers and bostic framers
All of us prefer the gas paslode trimmers, but for framing, there is no way the gas gun can keep up with the pneumatic, esp when it comes to PT or LVLs in speed of production or depth of drive.
But I don't know what kind of work you do. if mostly small remo with just a little framing, then the paslode gas gun is fine, but thinking cost and speed, anytime I will be framing all day, the pneumatic is the one I get out.
Trimming, it is the opposite story.
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I'm a firm believer in the if one is good two are better and more are just starting to get fun approach to tools..
Plus I believe it's a federal crime to sell tools.. at least that's the way I feel <grin>
Spares are really handy, plus, have you ever tried to sell a tool? Most of the time, you'll take a bath.
Do this math: If you had only one of those tools, and you saw the other for sale for as little as what you're going to get if you sell it, would you buy it?
Probably.
It's highly unlikely that its worth less than its price as a used tool to you, since at one point you were willing to pay full retail for it.
And old tools that you own are worth more than old flea-market tools, because you know how well they've been taken care of.
Keep it.
AitchKay
Well considering I was just trying to clean up the shop to make a little space here and there. I think it's almost unanimous; I'll hold on to it. Thanks for all for the valuable info to consider. Thanks!