As some of you know, I’ve been working on a garage / workspace for a couple of years. It was taking so long to finish I nicknamed it the “Forever Garage” It’s a little unusual in that it’s a sip structure with hydronic floor.
I owe many here my gratitude for ideas and answers along the way, it was always appreciated even if I didn’t say so.
I’m moving all my junk in now and thought y’all might want to have a gander at what you helped produce.
Here’s a look at the outside
And the Gable I had some fun with
Raft-A-Vent on the eaves
The garage where we actually park cars and I maintain the “fleet”.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.
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Here's a look at a SS sink I salvaged. The bathroom was sized to accomodate this old thing.
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My shop. I sometimes just stand and wonder where to put stuff and why I saved some of it!
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From another angle
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And yet another angle
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Dust collector in place, but not ducted anywhere yet. I did fire it up just to listen!
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Here's a salvage door I bought for a $1, was about 6 different colors. 4' solid core hernia buster
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An old Powermatic planer I'm rebuilding center stage here
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Looks good! I am envious. You could turn a car around in there. I like the rolling bread racks.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
I like the rolling bread racks
Funny thing, I bought eight of 'em from Costco when we moved here so I could store all the stuff in 1 1/2 car garage...just enough room to walk between with all the other stuff you see.
Saw six more on CL and bought 'em all a couple of months ago! I got to where I really like 'em for two reasons. They let light through so fewer shadows and ya can't set anything really small on them, it'll fall through...makes me a better organizer! (plus they're all shiney;)
Promised myself everything would be on wheels or hanging on the wall. I have boxes full of casters picked up here and there. I'm a scavenger at heart....
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
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Looks great. I'd love a space like that.
You'd need a pole barn what with all your tools, trailers, and equipment.
jt8
If you aren't embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much! --DanT
LOL... guess you missed the thread John. I can fit all my stuff in a shoe box now.
http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=116419.279View Image
remember to keep us posted about that.
I'm sure it'll take some time to have any info.
but good or bad ... it might help us in the end.
HUbcap posted something about leaving his trailer on a job, said it's up on levelers and he'd taken the plate off ... I never would have thot about taking the plate off.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Will do Jeff.
Right now I'm saying that I'll never leave it on a site again... but the truth is... eventually, there will probably come a time where I'll need to. I ordered one of those Dewalt GPS (Mobilelock) things... but I'm thinking you could still just smash it with a sledgehammer if you wanted to. But I will yank the rims and plate next time. Also park the forklift to block the doors. Still not scumbag proof.... but it will at least slow them down and limit them to taking only what they can take with 'em.View Image
right now I got a nice almost new utility van parked out front ...
and I'm thinking no tools go in the side bins till I have a metal shop rig up a locked cross bar that'll run from front to rear and across each door.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
"But I will yank the rims and plate next time."
I must be dense, because the only "plate" I can think of is the license plate. I don't see how that would deter a thief, so what are you talking about?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
Thgat is what Brian was talking about. More chance for a cop to pull over if they drove it away!
Taking the plate in this state won't matter, no one pays attention to trailer plates. Snowmobile trailers have the plate so far underneath that you can't really see it. For anyone, you need to have a plan that is not going to be a burden and something that you hate to do. Doing something like take the wheels off will be something you do once or twice, then hate it so much that you won't want to do it. Especially if its raining, muddy, etc.with your trailer, I would park it in a corner so the back door is blocked by a wall and the side door is blocked by another wall then put the forklift in front to make sure it cannot be stolen completely again. If you do it this way then the only way the crooks can rip you off is with a sawsall cutting the trailer. That will make all kinds of noise, plus thief's are lazy and look for easy opportunities. If you put up barriers they'll just look for something else. Also try to keep it in the most visible corner and in a lighted area too.
If you have trailer wheels that are not solid, you can pass a heavy tow-chain through the wheel and lock it around the axle. Or use a 2" galvanized steel pipe passed thru both wheels, with a padlock to keep the pipe from being removed.Best you can do is keep the trailer from being moved/towed away. Even with the heaviest lock-bars and hinges, most trailers can be cut open like a big can of soup.Bro had reinforced hinges and lock bars, hardened pick-proof locks. Thieves somehow dragged it away with the hitch coupler still locked. Took it somewhere remote and cut thru the side with a chain saw or cutting power tools. Made a big hole and stole everything inside.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
I feel bad for hijacking this thread with my soap opera. Let's move it back over to my thread guys. Thanks!View Image
Working on the shop when time and $ allow. Just got a deal on some select D fir 2x4s and 3/4" Radiata plywood off Craigslist, so decided it was time to get my chopsaw set up like I want.
I've really missed having a stop setup. This is a Myte-R-Kut, no longer made, unique in that the stop goes past saw chopsaw fence so you can cut down to zero.
The dados in the verticals are for future drawers. Laminate was donated by a buddy...we had it leftover from a big bathroom job we did.
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I know yer gonna toss a sharp thing at me, but I gotta ask you if you like bending over to plug stuff in...
Nice installation.
But it does take up a whack of wall real estate.
I know you is gonna have a table saw or two, so I'll show you what I did to conserve floor/wall real-estate....
It just sits above the table saw, leaving the walls free for cabinets....
I dunno if it shows in these photos, but the wall cabinets are acutally about a file cabinet width from the wall, and that's where the compressor and and a couple of file cabinets for storage sit, behind the cabinets....
I don't have much space, so that's what I figured out at this point in time.
Eric
>>>>>>> there's the sharp thing! Don't like tripping over cords either, I guess.
No shortage of outlets...high and low. Told myself I didn't want to go far to find one. Something like 70 120v duplex receps. IIRC
Clever deal you did there, space was tight in my old shop...not so much here, but there's no such thing as too much...right?
Eventually lumber storage above,and can park stuff underneath. Best thing is that there's nothing touching the floor, I don't like sweeping around posts much.
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his saw is plugged in right behind it
no bending over there
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Nice looking setup. Do you have it hooked up to the dust collection dealie?
Good thinking on the wall mount. Nothing to sweep around. Not only can I visualize wall cabinets above the miter saw, but I can also see mobile storage under the table. Little, mobile work tables, storage boxes, whatever. Sized to fit under the table, flush with the front of the table, between the supports.
LOL, that would give you something to sweep around again, but if they're on wheels you could just move them out of the way. But you still currently have LOTS of room, so that is something for the (distant?) future.
jt8
Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other people spend it for you. -- Carl Sandburg
Do you have it hooked up to the dust collection dealie?
No dust collection hooked up other than an old Dust Boy, and shop vac. The ductwork, reducers wyes, blast gates, et al, really start adding up. Something around 3 grand to get it all. Work's slow, money's tight, just gotta prioritize. Kinda sad that I got that nice cyclone and nothing between it and machines...it'll come in time...patience is a good teacher.
The cart idea is right on target, I've got a couple now, with just a few exceptions, everything's on wheels! It's like that old Who song, "Going Mobile". One nice thing that's come of the slower pace is I can use the shop and adjust game plan as I go. Makes for a better workspace in the long haul.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
HUbcap posted something about leaving his trailer on a job, said it's up on levelers and he'd taken the plate off ... I never would have thot about taking the plate off.
Can you buy one of those wheel locks that cities use? That would at least force them to cut your lock and empty it all out on site.
jt8
If you aren't embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much! --DanT
You've got good bounce.
jt8
lotsa worse things happen to better people than me every day. --Snort
Nice work. Every mans dream shop right there. I lreally ike that bathroom sink.
C'mon C'mon and do..... The locomotion with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3sCNRnn7GA
Very nice! I am envious.
OK, so in a 5 years is there just going to be a narrow path between stations? Every other nook and crannie stuff with 'stuff'? :)
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If you aren't embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much! --DanT
OK, so in a 5 years is there just going to be a narrow path between stations?
Geees, I hope not. The old Uhaul I got has lots of space yet and the storage container thing has me interested. And there's always sheds...
I did lose most of the "storage" garage....dang. My DW, after watching me do this, decided that she also needed some workspace...how could I say no? So next is to finish that space off a little nicer and add some cabinets and shelving.
Someday I'll get to remodeling the house, but the non-living spaces are gonna look sharp in the meantime.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
peter....nice post ...tells us more about the RFH ...... boiler, manifold..... anything you can think ofMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Mike, the system was designed by these guys;
http://www.lightheat.com/index.html
If I were to do it over, I'd contact NRTRob. I think the design was good, but the ongoing service was lacking somewhat. There were agreeable, just not proactive.
That said, here's the basics. The boiler is Munchkin Contender 80K Btu with Vision 1 (outside reset) option. Manifolds are log style by I'm-not-sure-who, circ pumps are Wilo and zone valves Caleffi controlled by a Taco box. All their choice of components, whadda I know about it!
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Divided into two zones with seven loops in the shop and four in the garage. I'm tickled with the system so far, it's keeping 2760 sq. ft of building at 60, which is shirt sleeve comfortable. If it's sunny, I get 3 to 8 degrees heat gain through the glass during the day. I'm hoping that doesn't turn into a problem this summer. It's costing about double what I was hoping to spend on a monthly basis ($100) but I haven't had a "normal" month either. Doors open, no insulation, next bill should be indicative of what to expect.
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Walls are 6 inch SIPs at around R25, I think. Blow in cells in attic R40 plus. Trusses have a 12" energy heel. I used your catwalk idea to make it easier. I tried to get it as tight as possble considering all the doors, still some details to get too in the big doors. All trimmed in MiraTec, another idea ripped off from your threads.It's just not used much aroung here. The sun rises and sets on Smartrim.
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Only really big dissappointment was a blow-off after I got the pex down and waiting or the floor pour. Freak wind storm, I rolled in the driveway and......what a mess. Pex everywhere, broken foam. I was sick, felt like somebody kicked me in the stomach That's dear wife picking up the pieces.
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wow..... what did you do to detail the heat loss around the garage doors ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
You know, that's the thing. Good doors rated at R17 depending on vinyl flap seal, same as a chitty door. If theres something better without going nuts on iflatable seal or something I didn't find it.
The walls were nice and flat so that seal is as good as it can be. I held MiraTec off concrete 1/2" as specified and need to plug that gap at inside of jamb only...got a 3/4 x 1/2 wind hole there now. Also gotta get a piece of bulb seal for bottom of 20' door. It's shy of door width an inch or so. After that, I think it is what it is.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
Same thing happened to my foam and rebar in Utah.
Didn't have the PEX on yet, but rebar all wired in place waiting for it.
Saw a storm coming and laid 20' lengths of 2 1/2" well pipe on it, about 10 lengths and some rocks that were handy.
Went to town and came back to find no foam, rebar twisted into pretzels & foam spread over a few acres stuck in trees and bushes.
Glad I wasn't there, I'd have tried to stop it somehow and done a Dorthy along with it.
Joe H
very cool...nice place to run a business outta..nice place to retire to so...
you got it made now bro!
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nice place to retire to
What's this retire thing?
I'm still trying to convince DW to support me...she needs a better paying job ;)
To her credit, she has been supportive of my obsession throughout this whole thing.
She commented on the amount of light coming through the "Sun Hole" in the bathroom, I was in stitches. Velux should consider a name change!
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
you have far far too much space.
I don't know how you could possibly get anything done in there.
I need to be stepping over, or on, something when I work.
;-)
Pat
It seemed huge before I started moving all my junk in, now it's shrinking...so weird. I'm truly amazed how much stuff I had in storage.
What part of Eugene are you in? Was just there last month visiting sister and family.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
We live off 14th and chambers on the near W side of town.
Eugene's nice. Orig from Wisconsin.
I know pretty close where that is. Sis lives near 22nd and Olive.
We watched my nephew in "Chicago" at his High School. I'm not much for musicals, but those kids did a whale of a job....nothing like the schools plays I was aware of.
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.