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frameless cabinets

Dave10990 | Posted in Construction Techniques on April 6, 2008 07:28am

I have built face frame cabinets often, but now I have a job that is specing frameless with full overlay doors and drawers.  My question is the drawer glides.  I assume I have to use side mounts.  What is the drawer allowance?  Has anyone put in a 3/4″ panel between drawers to allow for Blumotion bottom mount glides?  I have to start layout tomorrow, and I am a little unsure.

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  1. MBaybut | Apr 06, 2008 07:49pm | #1

    Dave,
    You can DL a PDF from the Blum website. I have to fore warn you these are the fully concealed type they are finicky glides to line up. You can use rear mount brackets (which ease the alignment somewhat) and put in a narrow stile between the drawers if they're in the same cabinet. Also, if you use side mount I believe the holes are lined up for standard euro configuration. Good luck.
    Mike

  2. USAnigel | Apr 06, 2008 08:10pm | #2

    Frameless is a lot easier to work with. You can build a cabinet with 5 pieces of material. Face frame at lease 9!

    Side mount drawer runners need 1/2" clearance each side.

    You can get self closing in the side mount for about $15 a pair. Undermount hidden slides install by mounting to the side of the cabinet, check specs for this.

    Check June 2008 FWW page 68 for details on the undermount. These can be as much as $50 a pair.

    Blumotion slides have a "L" shape bracket to mount with so you don't need the 3/4" horizontal panel.

    What kind of layout are you talking about? If its how to cut up the sheet of plywood, are you using a cutlist program?



    Edited 4/6/2008 1:11 pm ET by USAnigel

  3. john | Apr 06, 2008 08:18pm | #3

    Blum tandem with Blumotion are the undermount drawer runners which are designed for full overlay frameless construction. There is no need for any other panels. It sounds as if you are a bit unsure as to how they operate and fit. They are designed to be used with 15mm (or less) drawer box material. The runners are fixed to the carcase sides and the actual mechanisms are spaced inwards and end up the other side of the drawer side, underneath the drawer bottom if you see what I mean.

    This means that the drawer side in effect sits between the runner mech and the carcase side.

    For wooden drawer boxes they are the best drawer runner system on the market

    John

    If my baby don't love me no more, I know her sister will.
  4. wrudiger | Apr 08, 2008 07:41am | #4

    With frameless each stack of drawers is it's own box.  Easy to build, and easier with the fronts - full 3/4" overlay on each side. I made jigs and attached all the glides before assembling the boxes - came out dead square/level.  SIL is a cab installer and he was blown away by how uniform it turned out. (Beats crawling inside to mount after assembly.

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