Went today to look at this small roof to be done with Revere Freedom Grey .
Will use 18″ x 24″ lock seamed panels .
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That looks like a fun one.
You may know, I've been making Grant's Vents and dormers that are radiused, and he then wraps them and installs or ships them out.
I too use that slat technique on some, but as of late, I've taken to "skinning" with either 1/4" ply or masonite, so those slats can't telegraph like you see happening with the Grace.
You may consider that before covering w/the metal. Just working on the curve can make the slats show thru. Narrower slats also help make it a smoother round.
Keep the pics alive, hopefully my good computer will be back up and running again, this one is driving me nuts.
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I wished they had belt sanded out some of the worst spots - but with the Grace Ultra it's too late now .
I may use a layer of something else over the Grace before I start the metal .
Got to head to Philly for my wifes Aunts funeral tomorrow so I won't start this for a week .
Walter
Yeah, I saw that problem.
Maybe a few layers of red rosin or such. I've torn open old work and seen paste board ( like the back of a legal pad) used as a buffer.
I hope when G-man gets back he some dormers or vents needed, I need the work (G).
EDIT: Oooops I just saw it was a funeral, condolances to all concerned.
Have fun in the City of Brotherly Love, I was born raised around there. Plenty to gawk at downtown , like Independance Hall and so many neat homes in Germantown and surrounds.
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Edited 8/8/2009 5:52 pm ET by Sphere
The builder has another house with a half dozen eyebrow vents being installed that will require copper .
I'll get to look at those when I return .
This trip will not have time for the sights -- I've done that before . Wife has a course to teach there the following Monday so I'll fly home midweek .
Walter
Make a pitch to buy them from Grant's web site..(G) I'll make em slick for ya.
Seriously, being as I did and do the copper work, Grant and I know I can tailor the vents and dormers better than most site carps because I know the drill for what follows. and making them in the shop and then installing is a lot easier than constructing on the roof.
The last two dormers I did for him held 1/2 round windows 4' wide, those two just barely fit in my van after I dumped everything out. I save all my patterns and jigs and can whip out the barrel type stuff pretty quick now.
Have a safe trip.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You trying to take food outa my mouth <G>
I'll know more after I've seen them . I think they are already built but I'm not sure .
After some woodworking set backs by the builder , I'm finally starting to install the Freedom Grey panels to roof this entrance .
Bottom sheets have to be rolled in two directions .
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Walter,
Looks good. The poor woodwork did not appear to telegraph.
Sorta like a Dutch Roof at the bottom of the panels.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Chuck ,
This material is not as soft as bright copper , almost has a temper .
It seems to bridge the uneven wooden boards quite well .
Thanks for stopping in to look . I'll post more tomorrow if I finish up .
Best , Walter
Those pesky darn woodworkers will get ya every time!
LOL.
I like it, it looks like it "belongs" there.
Good job.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Thank you Duane ,
It was the archy's that threw the curve . Wasn't exactly as drawn so they had to tear out and rebuild .
Luckily I had some other prep work to do for 6 more down on the water .
Walter
Looks good, Walter.
Doesn't rolling the pans smash your seams?
I've used FG several times and I didn't notice any extra temper - in fact it felt softer than bright copper sheet. Wasn't as soft as LCC or roll copper.
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Grant ,
I'm new to this , so I rolled my blanks before I put the 3/4 " bends on them .
Seemed to work fine that way , just hand folded the locks down , and hand pressured the curve back .
I'm leaving everything bare , no solder , except for the two seams near the top where the last panel joins each of the 4 sheet sides and the back flange up the wall , where it meets the roof curve .
I used the Wuko some but it wasn't as useful as I hoped , and what you told me too .
Best , Walter
Just finishing up this small roof on the Coast .
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LOL--the nail pouch on top of the roof in that last picture looked like a resting labrador retriever at first glance. Nice looking work, Walter. Those flares look tricky.
My dog and I thank you very much Mike !!
My first stab at that double curve but it came out O. K . I think .
Finished up my soldering and both front corners this morning .
I'll take a final shot tomorrow once the clapboarding is finished .
Walter
Walter,Looks great. Thanks for sharing the photos.Couple of questions for you.Do you have to bend those panels to a certain pitch in your roller, or does that just make them pliable and you can form them to the roof as you apply them?How does the top piece get fastened onto the others? Same sort of interlocking seams as the rest of the pieces? Did the sides of the arch get counterflashing, or just the top?Most importantly, when's the party at Oliver's Boathouse starting?Thanks,Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Steve , The rolls will adjust to form a tighter curve or less , as you need .
The bottom was quite tight , then relaxed as it turned the other way .
The top panels are locked down to both sides up turned edge , after opening them up some to enable it to happen . A little friggin' but it's a 10" panel so not too bad .
Took my mobile shop and a bunch of copper blanks down the hill to Ollie's this morning . They're just finishing bringing the cedars up to the right height and the doubled window trim is getting put on .
I'll be down there tomorrow , flashing the chimney cricket - window interface to get the ball rolling .
I'll take the camera to record the proceedings .
Best , Walter
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Hmmmm. Yer gonna need to go under that last coped shingle , no?
I think I'd a revamped my courses too , to avoid that under the apron silliness esp. that face nail sticking out like a sore thumb in the corner there.
But thats me.
Have fun with them eyebrows, and keep em coming.
edit for the swaet in my eyes, just got in from picking beans..
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Edited 8/26/2009 4:40 pm ET by Sphere
Duane ,
The builder didn't enlist my help quite soon enough !
I'll know better once they get the final trim in place .
I'll prolly need to remove that last course where my copper meets the roof .
I'll show how I doped it out as time progreeses .
Walter
What's up with all those little pieces of apron?copper p0rn
It was so they could nail the little shingle butts under there..Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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That was done prior to my involvement . How bout this for step flashings ??
Thats a York roll of soft copper with a membrane backing .
I suggested that tissue paper would have had the same longevity .
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