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I haven’t framed for about three years. Previously, I only used clipped heads. I am going to purchase three new guns—two framers, and a good cement siding nailer. I would like to get some opinions from some of you frameheads out there as to which one is better, and what are the best heavy duty guns for the dollar on the market. Thanks
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Do a search in the tool section. Jeff
*duo fast
*With regards to the cement siding nailer, We use a roofing nailer and blind nail everything. It gives a much better finished look than face nailing everything.Eric
*Mike-I'd recommend the Senco full head framing nailer, I tried the cheaper porter cable, if I got .05 for every double fire I'd quit working and be rich (not to mention it's dangerous). I believe clipped heads are no longer allowed on load bearing walls in CA. and like everything else if other states adopt this, clipped head is useless
*What about paslodes new "full round" head nails that are actually an offset so they are used in clipped head guns. I haven't actually seen them, only in ads but it looks interesting. For fiber cement I talked to the folks at certainteed and they are recommending hitachi, duo-fast and maxcoil. I've never heard of the last one but that doesn't mean anything.
*One Hitach NR83One Hitachi NR90don't side, so no recommendation there.
*Senco, Hitachi, Paslode no controversy...just great productsPaul
*I have a senco sn65. Round head, depth adjustment, everything you need, nothing you don't. I used mine to hang hardieplank and it worked just fine. Maze even makes hot dopped galvies for it. I'm a firefighter by trade, not a framer, but thats my $.02
*Clipped head guns have less problems for me.
*Check your local codes, some places are not allowing clipped heads.If you want one gun to do it all with, get the powermaster by Paslode. It is light, powerful, and dependable. It shoots full head nails. I had the privilege to use one for framing, and after we changed the spiked noespiece to Palodes rubber nose, we used the same gun to hang cement siding. Now I am waiting for my Bostich to give me any little reason to replace it. I won't hesitate to get the Paslode. You do have to take a little time adjusting the nail depth and air pressure to set the nails properly in the cement siding. BTW go ahead and get stainless nails for the cement siding. You are installing a product that will outlast galvanized nails. Just my humble opinions.
*Hitachi full head framer with steel track.The best framing gun ever. Paslode and senco are ok,but duo fast are tougher and work better too, if you don't mind the weight. They all come in behind hitachi though.
*Ditto the Senco coil roofer for fiber cement. Nice big nail heads won't tend to break siding surface. You're supposed to set the nail head SNUG to the surface, no coutersink. Have always blind-nailed fiber cement siding, and usually face-nail at butts and corners.
*around here everybody uses the paslode and senco. I bought the bosticks mainly because I,m cheap and cannot afford $399 for a gun. But here in the SE we go by southern (standard) building codes and the code nazi informed me that Jan 1 no clipped heads only round.
*paslode makes a round head nail for their pwrmaster plus - the head is just set off to the side of the shank. They work fine, since there's an offset there are as many of these nails in a stick as in a regular clipped head stick.
*Geoff, PC sent me a free replacement sequential trip trigger for my FR350, in case you haven't thrown yours off a bridge yet.
*HITACHI, HITACHI, HITACHII have owned several different Bostich framing guns, JUNK. I have owned several different Paslode framing guns, JUNK. When I got my hands on a Hitachi NR83AA (the clip-head model) I was sold. It has power, great balance and an unobstructed nose piece. I have used several full head nailers (including the Hitachi NR83A) and I can't put up with the pop-corn that gets shot at you with every nail driven. Also nail storage. 20K clip-head nails will take up a lot less space in your van or truck than fullhead nails. Then there is carrying clips in your pouch. I run Paslode nails because they are bullet-proof in my experience. You can drop clips, get then wet, stuff them in your pouch and nothing bothers them. I have heard a lot of complaints about fullhead nails being fragile in the clips and jamming constantly if not in pristine condition. I have a Hitachi siding nailer that I do all my exterior trim with. It set me back about $375 but I swear it paid for itself on the first job that I used it in labor saved. Set the depth with the spin of a dial. My buddy has two Bostich siding nailers that you have to use a wrench to adjust depth and it is a touch and go adjustment at that. In my honest opinion the Hitachi is superior for framer and sider. I'm not sure on other guns like finish, roofing, coils etc...
*Yeah, It's me again, About the clip heads becoming illegal. My nail supplier told me about 6-7 years ago that the clip heads were going to be outlawed soon. Still haven't seen that. What is the shank diameter of the full head nails? The Paslode nails that I use are .131 diameter. You had better have a strong forearm to pull them out. I was on a job where we had to rip out some new framing (fixing somebody elses scewups).They used a full head nail, I don't know what brand but we couldn't believe how easy they where pulled out of 2x framing materials. I would think that the shank dia. would matter significantly in the holding power of a nail. What good is a full head if you can pop it right out?
*clip head became illegal on the se coast on jan 1,02. this is with the southern building codes.