Hey, we all work for different types of customers. I have a builder that enjoys dressing up his models really well for the market that we’re in. ( I say “we” because I’ve been doing his work for 4 years now ) THese are pics of some of the items he put into his latest model. The walnut study arches turned out real sweet. (only 4th time we done them- other times in cherry, clear pine, paint grade) He is a super guy to work for , has a keen eye for detail, but would hurt himself if he tried to cut a piece of trim……
First we get good- then we get fast !
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That is some great work there. Those study arches certainly did turn out well- I almost hate to ask, but how many man hours in those things?
Was that cherry panel ceiling built in the shop as a unit and then set in place, or built in place? Edit: nevermind, I realize that it's bigger than I thought at first glance.
zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Edited 3/14/2007 11:58 pm by zak
FinishCarp,
VERY impressive work. I particularly liked the mantle, bold yet simple... beautiful. I take it you laminated the corbels?
Have one on me.
Nick
Thanks for the complement. The study arches have about 55 man hours into them. FIrst I layout everything on an end wall , get " approvals" , cut the arches and other materials, veneer the edges as appropriate, install the works finish sand and take pix......First we get good- then we get fast !
Well, I guess for a rookie that isnt too bad :-)
That walnut archway is a sharp looker. I wondered about the corbels too. That strikes me as something that would take a little forethought to pull them off well. How'd you do it? Nice stuff man.
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The corbels were made by the kitchen guys as they had 6 to make for their own project (on the island and beside range hood). I get a design from the builder for everything including the corbels. Like I said he has a real keen eye for detail and will not settle for "my interpretation" (I've removed stuff that wasn't close enough at the beginning of our relationship. Now I ASK before proceeding) We have done the Great room arch in cherry, maple, clear pine, oak, paint grade and now walnut..(my personal fav is the cherry...)First we get good- then we get fast !
Very Nice workmanship.
I envy you your position and your work.
Excellent Work!
That walnut study is very nice. Is this a Spec home?
Chuck S
Thank you . Yes this is his latest spec / model home. Within our market, his model homes have "character" with these details whereas other builders don't do this type of thing. WHen a customer comes in and gets turned on by the extras, he has a built-in customer that only he can satisfy..... (oops made some references there that may not sound right , but you get my drift.....) P.S. He does some other cool stuff on the model that we are currently working on like a mock timber frame screened in porch, front mock timberframe entrance. I'll post additional pix tonight.... First we get good- then we get fast !
Mn, oh man, oh man.
Stuff to dream about doing!
Forrest - hoping to do trim like that on someone else's nickel some day
Build them into your own new home.......First we get good- then we get fast !
Very nice work. I especially like the arch, they're fun to do. In all my years of finish carpentry, believe it or not I have never done a coffered ceiling and would just love to. The first pict of the cherry vault reminded me.
Very Nice!
Nice designs and well executed. Might have to borrow an idea or two.
Thanks for posting.
Love it. Are the study arches structural or for show?
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Piffin: Study arches are all show... scissor trusses hold up the roof/ ceiling
Edit: THe 2 inset panel posts on the arch between the kitchen and Great room are structural- they hide a 4 X 4 each.......
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Edited 3/15/2007 2:26 pm ET by finishcarp
Very nice. We're ready for our next batch of pics now.
jt8
"The flower that follows the sun does so even on cloudy days."
--Robert Leighton
Hi all: Next group of pix. Most should be self explanatory and are in addition to the original group. At this home we also did the walk in closets (cherry to match ensuite ceiling), a beam ceiling in the Master bedroom (there is a grass cloth wallpaper to go in between the beams), a dropped crown in the dining room (allows rope lighting) as well as some other detail pix. Also is a pix of the back hall wainscot which is v-match T&G poplar (same as great room ceiling). The door in this picture is to the walnut pantry (sorry no pic!)
I will post pix of the outside stuff next week when completed.
JoeFirst we get good- then we get fast !
wow,thats is some cool stuff. hardly anyone around here messes with walnut,everything is oak. makes me want to start ripping my oak out and find some walnut.larryhand me the chainsaw, i need to trim the casing just a hair.
Nice looking work!
Doug
I think theres some really great work in there. The thing that bothers me though is it feels like all those things are built into a contemporary house.. I just don't feel like that work_ fits in that house is all...I donno...something about it.
No reflection on the work AT ALL. Some of that work is fantastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFexyK8J1Iw
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
It reminds me of the work done in our new library. Contemporary traditional. Gives me a weird feeling. But, amazingly for a public building, fantastic workmanship. Except for the fake slate roof, which met a very early demise, and resulted in a lawsuit. Now, standing seam copper roofing. OOPS, several patrons were nearly obliterated by snow slides, so an iron covered entry was added, as well as hundreds of those snow stoppers.
Well, it was at the homeowners request...musta beena wealthy homeowner with a lot of whims.
sorta reminds me of when a homeowner will ask me to put something in a house where it doesn't look like it belongs because they saw it where it did belong and they want it too...like old barn doors on a contemporary house...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFexyK8J1Iw
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Finishcarp
I can appreciate the time and effort you put into your projects.I have a buddy who is an excellent trimmer, and I wish I could work with him from time to time, but I have a day job to contend with.
I especially like the arches, wish I knew how to build stuff like that. You are lucky that you get the opportunity to do work like that. Slam bang,thank you mam is the norm for a lot of QUALITY work here in connecticut. Caulking by the cases.
Greg in Connecticut
Carp - Nice work. Do you think any of that kind of detail ever shows up in any of the actual homes or... have you ever been hired to trim out any of the new homes based on your work on the models?
Most developments I see around here have nice elaborate trim packages on the models and then the finished product has nothing but a wood stool (if your're lucky) and drywall returns - about as much charm and character as a wet noodle.
I always wonder if the homeowner really realizes what they are (or aren't) getting for their 'standard' package.
Most of these features are incorporated into this builder's homes that he contracts for others. Particularly the great room arch, is the most popular, followed by ensuite ceiling, and the bookcase. Naturally, the home design has to be considered as well as budget. We have done most of these features in other woods (maple, cherry, oak etc) for clients over the last 4 years...
Hope that answers good question....First we get good- then we get fast !
That's my kind of kitchen. Very nice.
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I wish I had a reason;
my flaws are open season
The bookcase is walnut particle core, veneer core and solid mouldings- no knots....... your ceiling looks good.... did you do the work yourself? if so , pat yourself on the back.... There is a lot of great trades ont this forum and I humbly like to share my work when it is special. I realize it is not the pinnacle of design or workmanship, but it is different and unique. If it isn't then, so be it......my intention was to share, not crow that I am the best.....
Best Regards Joe
First we get good- then we get fast !
Nice work--
and nice response to alan.
"This is a process, not an event."--Sphere
And I'm a legitimate certifiable Tool Whore.--Dieselpig
Joe:I had no intention of offending you. I think your work is great, but I was giving my opinion about some of its design, which you may or may not had the final say. I understand that. Also I am at a disadvantage because I did not see what type of house it was installed in. I should have thought it out and written what I was trying to say better.I sincerely apologize if I came across as rude, or worse, a know-it-all, which I certainly am not. I respect all of you pro's out there in the forum that I can learn from, you included. I am not a professional tradesman, just a homeowner how has made alot of mistakes and continue to do so, hoping to learn from each one. Chalk up the things I wrote as another mistake which I learned from. I should have kept my trap shut and reminded myself that everyone's work is different, not necessarily right or wrong, just different. Please accept my sincere apology as I do not want anyone on this forum to think ill of me. If I could buy you a beer I would. Also, about the walnut thing, I must have mistaken some of the camera flash as knots and thanks for the comments about my ceiling. I appreciate it. Just that shows me that you are true gentleman as well as a pro.AS (insert another S here)
Alan: No offence taken. Life is too short to be offended by everyone's words (if 30 years on a construction site doesn't cure you of that- nothin' will ...). I believe that you intended no harm. We all are poor communicators, when it comes down to it and our intentions don't always come out as our reality. I suffer the same fate.... I live with it every day.....
Have that beer on me...... I'll have 1 on you..... (mine's Canadian though... :)
Best Regards and Cheers ... JoeFirst we get good- then we get fast !
Does that mean we get more beer for our money or is it less !!!!!
How far are you from Mt. Tremblant?
About 12 hours drive.... I live 1/2 way between Toronto and Detroit. Makes it tough for sports loyalties ( Tigers for sure !!)First we get good- then we get fast !
Very nice workmanship.How did you make up the pocket door track? I've got to do one tomorrow for double 4'x8' doors. We've got 3 3/0 Johnson I beam style tracks to cobble something together. I'm a little worried about the section transitions causing a hitch, how smoothly do those doors you showed roll? Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
These doors are a 2'-8" plus a 2'-0" per side. This was done so the pane size of each door were the same when they were joined together (biscuited) . The framers put the tracks in and the joint seemed fine. The Johnson track was used as well in this install. We too were worried about the joint but it came together all right - the doors roll smooth but do have a slight hiccup when they jump the track at the connection. Making sure the joint is smooth , aligned and tight I would think, would be satisfactory(oops- don't forget straight and level !) This was our 2nd install like this- the other went equally well.
Hope that helps...... Joe
P.S. What does your caption refer to / come from?First we get good- then we get fast !
Well, we'll give it a shot this am. Here's hoping for smooth rolling<G>The tagline's from an old Bob Dylan song, Day of the Locusts, fits my situation a large part of the time LOL Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
Good question- do you want my analysis AFTER the beer or before........ jobsite analysis or living room ? LOL
Some neighbours and ourselves get together a couple of times a year and do blind taste sampling of different beers in head to head (no pun intended !!) format. Proves quite interesting- when your familiar brand that you like is in the fray, it is tough to pickout. Our tests have also included the marketing portion.... eg. we have 2 beers - Heineken and Grolsch . Which 1 do you THINK you willl like and then a blind taste test.......mmmmmm good and interesting.... sometimes we make no decisions- kinda like this thread- perhaps no right or wrong just personal taste.... ;)First we get good- then we get fast !
FHB (usually Kevin Ireton & whoever ) are featured guests on the Faith Middleton show on the CT public radio station, WNPR.
About the midway point of each show, which has call-ins, etc., Faith brings out a beer to blind taste, because, as she says, "Who knows more about beer than carpenters?"
When we have a neighbourhood "beer tasting" it quite an ordeal as we have ratings for each beer we try, describe the taste, and a knockout setup (similar to the NCAA b-ball round of 8) with scorecards for each of the "tasters" The men seem to go for a premium type of beer (perhaps more flavourful ??) whereas the women seem to go for a lighter tasting beer. One woman at our last get together chose Coors light as her champion beer (remember all blind ..) and she drinks that beer all the time. We were all amazed.... she wasn't (LOL)...... Blind tasting levels the playing field....... lots of fun.......JFirst we get good- then we get fast !
Sounds like a very mellow neighborhood!
WIld and crazy Canucks........give us a beer and we'll make a contest of it.......First we get good- then we get fast !
I really enjoyed your pics. The style of much of it is very timeless. Maybe it's mission/contemporary/shaker/craftsman/modern or some combination, but it works in a great many styles of homes.
It's not often that we see so much walnut, but the color looks great. I've been doing more and more dark mission oak, but there are many times walnut would be a classy upgrade option. After seeing your pics I'm more convinced than ever.
Good building.
Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.
you should be writing articles for us! let's talk turkey!
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Regards... JFirst we get good- then we get fast !