torsion springs.
I’ve taken then down in the past … today my helper asked me how.
Have no idea w/o looking at them. Have done it safely in the past …
can’t remember what the heck I did.
What’s the quick refresher / how too undo?
I’m gonna dig thru the net later too …
I mighta done it before out of an old Time Life Book.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
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a C4 charge in the center and some distance, and you should be good ;)
hope this helps... by bumping it
Check this site out. It should answer all your questions:
http://www.truetex.com/garage.htm
that's the one I just read.
It's what I thot it was ...
coupla bars and a wrench.
insert and hold tight a bar ... loosen nut ... unwind using 2 bars.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't oversimplifying things since it's been about 6 years since I've done this.
Looks like I'll be standing in the helpers garage Sat morning!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
You got it. Make sure bars are the correct diameter and long enough for the leverage ( I like 12" pins)and DO NOT use drifts (tapered pins). I generally see two locking bolts on the spring shaft hub.
With one bar inserted into the shaft hub I loosen one bolt slowly , watching the turns and shaft at the same time until I determine the second bolt is holding the load, then I grip the bar tightly , and again slowly loosen the second bolt until I can see, feel, or intuit that the shaft is about to be able to spin.
At that point I back the second bolt out enough to make sure I am holding the hub , drop the wrench and place my second pin, then it is ratchet it back until the springs are loose. Easy money. ( Unless it is a 14' tall door and you are standing on a step ladder)
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Jeff
The two winding bars & wrench are the way to go. The bars I have came with the first garage door I ever installed, I belive the bars are hardened, You would hate to have some soft steel bars bend & let loose when you release the bolts.
Also be sure your bars are seated fully to bottom of the holes, don't get in a hurry.
Like someone else said get it all on film, could make for a great U-tube flick!
Paul No one should regard themselve as "God's gift to man." But rather a mere man whos gifts are from God.
Two pins and two huge brass balls..I run away like a girl.
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Step 1: Remove car(S) from garage.
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Edited 3/4/2009 7:17 pm by Hackinatit
the ones i have dealt with had 1/4 inch holes so i took 1/4 inch steel rods then duct taped all but 3/4 of an inch of them in some black pipe maybe 1/2 inch by a foot long the used two of those set ups to add or subtract tension
noah
Whatever you do, don't do it like my friend Roger did.
We were seniors in high school and got jobs as delivery drivers for Chicken Delight. The delivery vehicle was an International Harvester Scout with a two-foot tall plaster chicken bolted to the roof.
Roger needed to turn around on a narrow street in Playa Del Rey (now part of LAX) where the houses had no setback. He was in a hurry, so he decided to turn around by pulling into an open garage that had a one-piece door with springs on each side.
The garage door vertical clearance was about 6' 8", but the plaster chicken stood proudly at a little over 7'. When he heard the sound of the plaster chicken shattering, Roger slammed the Scout into reverse, swung the wheel and backed out, snagging one of the garage door springs with his bumper.
He hit the brakes then, but too late. The last thing Roger saw before the heavy door came crashing down on the hood of the Scout, was that spring flying across the garage and taking out a shelf full of paint cans.
LOL
chiken guts everywhere
did the driver tell the boss or just quit on the spot
"did the driver tell the boss or just quit on the spot"Roger parked it in the darkest corner of the parking lot, got in his car and went home.
BruceT
good thing it was an old Scout ...
probably ran fine on the way back to the shop!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
"good thing it was an old Scout ..."Anew Scout, actually. This happened in '62.
BruceT
Quick way is good strap wrench. Door up if you have room. Loosen the set screws/bolts. Release strap on strap wrench. 5 or 6 wraps with an old piece of rope works good too, pull tight on 'tighten' end, release slowly when set screws loose. .
I really like the torsion spring setups that have worm gear in the ends, just put your drill with 1/2" hex bit into the drive and crank it loose (or tight)
1 : use "vise grips" on both sides of shaft, stop rotation of shaft both ways.
2: use winding bars, most springs on ressidential are 3/8" I use 16 " bars / rod
3: most torsion springs use set screw 3/8" wrench or 7/16 boxed wrench
4: insert winding bar, loosen set screw ( s)
5: unwind ( usually down away from ceiling )
Note: shaft may be rusted / burred by set screws, so spring "lock collar" may want to "hang up, so watch that.
BE VERY VERY CAREFUL!!
IF IT WAS EASY, EVERYONE COULD DO IT !
The end of the spring has two bolts and two holes for a prybar. Insert the prybar in the hole then carefully release the bolts. You might not release all the tension on the first spin so dont let go of the bar.
Family.....They're always there when they need you.
After successfully jacking the three truss 25X25 metal roof of his pole framed garage up 10 feet in the air and building a second story underneath it in one long day(the locals were so impressed at what one guy with a house jack and cribbing could do that he had a steady stream of tourists the entire day...), my buddy set to sheath the interior walls of his now two-story shop. Which meant removing the garage door opener wall plates.
Long story short - he took a short cut on the last spring, it got away from him, took the clamp, cheater bar, etc... and before he knew what hit him he had a shattered and completely flayed open thumb. Pretty lucky nothing grabbed his head. His wife spent 10 minutes looking around for pieces of thumb because she was convinced there wasn't enough there... (it was all there - just rearranged).
The EMT's regaled him with their best garage spring stories on the trip to the ER. He said the best one was the guy that was adjusting one on a ladder. When the EMT's arrived, he was hanging three feet above the floor by his broken arm, which was skewered and pinned to the ceiling. His orthopedic surgeon said he thought garage door springs gave him more "home improvement" based work than anything except ladders.
Maybe you should have someone take pictures while you do it? You could post them here afterwards, cause it sounds like a lot of folks need help doing it right! Take care...
I call my garage door guy. Those things scare the hell out of me.
Stand outside the door, stick your hand around the corner and cut the cable on each side. Jump back. Make sure you prop the door up too.