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Garage Floor Decay

baartman | Posted in Construction Techniques on September 21, 2007 03:26am

Some customers approached me with some work, they need their garage threshold redone.

The threshold has been pathed before , but has chipped away. They use the garage in the winter, and the salt from the car is eating away at the floor.

I was wondering if there was a good solution to this problem that would be more hardy than the previous attempt.

Thanks again!

Dave.

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  1. baartman | Sep 21, 2007 04:34am | #1

    Here's a pic...

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      IMERC | Sep 21, 2007 04:40am | #2

      chip it all out...

      wash thourghly with clear water and lots of it...

      'poxy it over... 

      paint the entier floor... 

      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

      WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

    2. peteshlagor | Sep 21, 2007 05:09am | #5

      IMERC is one of the true knowledgable people on this board.

      However, in this case, I disagree with him.

      A 'poxy is sensitive to UV light and moisture.  The erosion you're experiencing is the result of moisture.

      May I suggest you lookover the whole inside of the garage for a resurfacing.  Such resurfacing will continue out to cover that apron.  Use the MPC product described here:  http://www.miracote.com/index.php?href=productdetail&id=16.

      I would lean towards the white smooth version in a light troweled finish.  Don't worry about imperfections.  Put it on as if you're smearing DW compound on your garage floor.  This is exactly how it'll feel and look.  It'll set up within 30 minutes, so don't mix too much at once.

      Then stain it using a mix of 3 colors of this product:    http://www.miracote.com/index.php?href=productdetail&id=11. 

      And from this color chart:  http://www.miracote.com/download/Tab%203%20-%20Color%20Cards/Mirastain_SmoothWhite.pdf.  I'm thinking first spray a base coat of Rustic Brown then a bit of Auburn Brown and Desert Brown sprayed in spots.  Then smear it all together with a broom and wash off.  Neutralize with a bucket of diluted ammonia and wash well.  I'm thinking you'll come real close to matching the pavers in color.

      After it drys up, apply this as a sealer:   http://www.miracote.com/index.php?href=productdetail&id=15.  It is thick and needs to be spread out thin, so roll it on and out.  The first coat in one direction, the second in the other.  Add an antislip compound to the second coat and be sure you roll out a smooth, even coat.  Use xylene as a solvent for cleaning up.

      Protect your pavers and walls first with poly.

  2. mclaren | Sep 21, 2007 04:47am | #3

    What IMERC said.
    After wash, let standing water get absorbed and
    place patche (repair mortar). Let cure and then
    Epoxy the entire thing (maybe consider some
    texture to prevent slipping).

    Mclaren

    1. baartman | Sep 21, 2007 04:58am | #4

      That does sound like a great plan. I only could think of masonry remedies, but I needed to expand my horizons! Epoxy should definitely hold up well. Should I paint it as well? Can I get the epoxy to look like concrete? Are there recommendations on a brand?Thanks!Dave.

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        IMERC | Sep 21, 2007 05:13am | #6

        listen to pete.... 

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

        WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

      2. mclaren | Sep 21, 2007 05:24am | #7

        My original thought was something like Sikagard 62.it's used in all kinds of garage applications.It is also resistant to just about every automotivefluid (brake fluid will soften it).A concern, though, is how much moisture may be comingup through the slab. A mat test can answer thatquestion, but Pete's suggestion of Miracote givesmany more options in terms of color and finished texture.

        Mclaren

  3. DanH | Sep 21, 2007 06:03am | #8

    I'd just observe that you see some concrete that gets damaged like this and then other concrete, exposed to identical conditions, that doesn't. I'm not sure what the difference is, other than in at least some cases it seems to be related to concrete finishing.

    If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
    1. baartman | Sep 21, 2007 06:56am | #9

      What a plethora of information! Thanks everyone. With all the suggestions in mind, im sure I can come up with a few solutions that vary in cost for them, to see how far they are willing to go to fix it. It seems that the majority of the damage come where the car drives in and spills the salty brine of melted snow/road salt. I think that has a lot to do with it. I think that a sealer of some sort is certainly in order, as suggested. I think that colour is not too much of a concern for them, its merely a garage. They are looking to improve the looks of the outside.So my course of action is this. Clear away loose material and clean VERY thouroughly. Apply a coat of mortar to the area. Wait till it dries and seal it with one of the above suggested products like the miracote sealer or a similar product.Sound good?Thanks again,
      Dave.

      1. peteshlagor | Sep 21, 2007 08:29am | #10

        The reason the color is important is because the little bit of apron that sticks out when the door is closed.

        But OTOH, let's say you're right, color don't matter.

        Then use the regular grey MPC, skip the staining step and apply the APU as instructed.

        But I'm thinking for what they gave for them pavers, they'd be willing to go for the color step.   Frankly, it's not that much more and is very simple to do.  Don't think for a second the stain will be wierd.  It's supposed to be.  After the sealer is on, it looks alive.

  4. freestate1 | Sep 21, 2007 08:02pm | #11

    I've seen HO's inflict all kinds of damage to their flatwork by chipping away ice, resulting in a miniature carpet-bombing effect.  Probably worthwhile to review with the current occupants the hazards of ice chipping so that your repaired surface doesn't get defaced after the first cold-spell.

    1. DanH | Sep 21, 2007 09:27pm | #12

      Good point, though the damage doesn't look like what you'd expect to see from ice chipping.
      If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader

      1. baartman | Sep 21, 2007 10:05pm | #13

        That is correct, the area was not exposed to extensive ice chipping, maybe casual shovelling. But a lot of salt has flown over it as well as many trips over it with the car.

        1. DanH | Sep 21, 2007 11:00pm | #14

          Our 31-year-old garage floor doesn't look anything near that bad (in fact, hardly worn/chipped at all), in spite of Minnesota winters and a low spot under where my wife parks that collects a pool of salt by spring. Our driveway's in pretty good shape too, aside from cracks.Several driveways on our street, however, have very bad spalling. Not clear what the difference would be.
          If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader

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          BillHartmann | Sep 22, 2007 04:01am | #15

          I suspect that it is a concrete problem.Over worked or too much water..
          .
          A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

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