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   dovetail97128 | Aug 11, 2008 08:56pm | #1

   Rule of thumb here is 2 at each end when the span exceeds 6'or greater

   Definitly open to engineering calls and unscientific as that calls for a load analysis.

   They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
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   Framer | Aug 11, 2008 09:56pm | #2

   2

   Joe Carola
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   framerboy | Aug 11, 2008 11:44pm | #3

   I always use a 4x4 trimmer in a 4 inch wall or a 4x6 in a six inch wall. Not a huge expense, and since almost all of the houses I frame have roll up garage doors and are finished with drywall or stucco on the inside, it gives the door guy plenty of meat to attach his hardware to.

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   MSLiechty | Aug 12, 2008 03:27am | #4

   I wish I had a 4x4 under the header at each end fro trimmers. It appears the garage door clowns have split out each of the 2 trimmers when installing the door on this 45 Y.O. home.ML

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   blownonfuel | Aug 12, 2008 05:17pm | #7

   Good idea Fb. I might take that route. Thanks

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   dovetail97128 | Aug 12, 2008 05:41pm | #8

   Don't know your areas code requirements but if you are using "Braced Wall Panel" or a "Portal Frame" as part of the wall requirements then it may be necessary for you to use a 4 x post , not 2-2x's.
   Some of the "Engineered Anchors and Holddowns" require the 4x post to reach load capacities as part of their engineering.
   They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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   frammer52 | Aug 12, 2008 05:03pm | #5

   2

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   Jim_Allen | Aug 12, 2008 05:11pm | #6

   I'd probably put one, if the "finished" jamb was a 2x6 and went all the way down to the concrete. That second jamb gives the header plenty of bearing.

   Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

   Quote of the day: "...can't be done, it will take too long, not enough pipeline capacity, yada yada but yet they don't apply the same skepticism to their own "solutions" such as wind and biofuels"

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   BossHog | Aug 12, 2008 06:24pm | #9

   The number of trimmers needed varies with the load on the header. You header is fairly short, but you told us almost nothing about how much load it's carrying.

   The size of the garage, the loading requirements, and how the roof is framed would all have to be considered.

   If you figure the loads and pick the beam from the manufacturer's span charts, they'll tell you the amount of bearing required.

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   blownonfuel | Aug 12, 2008 06:38pm | #10

   Hello Boss. The garage is 26'x24', 4/12 hip roof over it, asphalt shingles, single story, no snow loads, no attic storage, no walls midspan.

   Edited 8/12/2008 11:38 am ET by blownonfuel

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   BossHog | Aug 12, 2008 06:51pm | #11

   Stick framed or trusses?On a hip roof with trusses, sometimes the girder falls on the garage door. That can mean a much larger beam is required.
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   blownonfuel | Aug 12, 2008 06:53pm | #12

   Stick Boss.

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   dovetail97128 | Aug 12, 2008 07:08pm | #13

   Man your reply had me having flash backs of "Cool Hand Luke" !!
   They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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   blownonfuel | Aug 12, 2008 09:44pm | #14

   You mean like this?

   "What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men."

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   dovetail97128 | Aug 12, 2008 09:49pm | #15

   Yesss Boss
   They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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   blownonfuel | Aug 12, 2008 10:03pm | #16

   That'll be a night in the box!!!!