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   mikerooney | May 29, 2005 06:52pm | #1

   Very nice work. Good photography, too.

    

    

   "Logic, like whiskey, loses it's beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities."        Lord Dunsany

    

                                                       

    

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   JeffBuck | May 29, 2005 07:36pm | #2

   all very nice.

   Took me a minute to figure out the "recessed door" ... cool trick.

    

   Jeff

       Buck Construction

    Artistry In Carpentry

        Pittsburgh Pa

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   jrnbj | May 29, 2005 08:01pm | #3

   Very nice....I remember a few G'town projects, back when it was converting from Ghetto/industrial to high end....Ballon framing on shallow brick "footings" laid in the dirt LOL
   Did you know that Wisconsin ave. used to be one whole story lower than it is now......
   BTW are you based in the DC metro area?

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   brownbagg | May 29, 2005 08:47pm | #4

   all that fancy woodwork, painted white. I feel sick.

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   ClevelandEd | May 30, 2005 12:59am | #6

   I think paint was the original finish for wood trim in the the Georgetown era homes.

   Aside of that, I personally love the look of painted wood trim even though I keep removing the paint from my 1840 floors. 

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   jrnbj | May 30, 2005 01:49am | #7

   well, I didn't do it....anyway, that's the style, for the most part, in that neck of the woods...stained trim is fairly uncommon there, unlike say Buffalo, or Chicago....

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   JeffBuck | May 30, 2005 07:39am | #9

   typical of the era.

   matter a fact ... in victorian times ... paint ... was a sign of wealth.

   around here ... the old painted trim is mostly straight grain pine ... looks great stripped and stained ... deep/dark looking stuff ... but was made to be painted.

    

   Jeff    Buck Construction

    Artistry In Carpentry

        Pittsburgh Pa

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 03:56pm | #10

   That frame was unlike anything I had seen before. It seemed like a step in framing evolution between post and beam and balloon. It was 4x4 for on brick footing with top and bottom plate mortised to accept the stud and then the next floor stud tenoned into the top plate creating the second floor plate. I hope that makes sense. The joists sat on the top plate. All heart pine construction, unbelievably hard. It was a fun job. Most of my work now is on the U St. corridor building condos. I asked a question in the break time forum, being new I didn't know if it was in the right forum. I live in Ne Dc. Been here 17 years minus 3 in Naples Fl. Born in Portage Pa.

   Edited 5/30/2005 9:18 am ET by quicksilver

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   lwj2 | May 30, 2005 05:16pm | #13

   Nice work, QS.IIRC, that area of DC went up around the 1890s or so, maybe as early as the War Between the States (in parts). South of Reservoir Road a lot of it is Colonial or Federalist.Place must have changed a lot since I moved south — last time I was on U St., most of the denizens were hookers or drug dealers and I was wishing I had BAR or a Thompson gun instead of the 35mm Nikon.Leon Jester

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 06:33pm | #16

   U st. has changed unbeleivably in the last ten years or one year for that matter. The orignal G-town house is in a cluster of wood frames very unusual for NW Dc. I was told 1860's by barge builders for the C&O canal.

   Edited 5/30/2005 3:56 pm ET by quicksilver

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   lwj2 | May 30, 2005 09:10pm | #21

   That makes sense now, QS.I used to go to school in that neighbourhood, (beaucoup years ago it was known as Gordon JHS, damfino what it is now) and walked past those houses on the way to catch the bus.Egad. Had to beat the little grey cells like a drum to drag that memory out!I'll have to drive up some weekend and take a look at things, see how and what's changed.Meantime, I'm off to practise fine woodworking by making raised beds for SWMBO's gardens. (I just looooove cutting half-laps in PT landscape timbers.)Leon Jester

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   JeffBuck | May 31, 2005 05:32am | #22

   "Born in Portage Pa."

    

   Oh ... so U one of them fancy big-city guys, huh?

    

   Jeff    Buck Construction

    Artistry In Carpentry

        Pittsburgh Pa

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   quicksilver | May 31, 2005 01:02pm | #23

   Takes one to know one.

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   jackplane | May 31, 2005 04:53pm | #24

   hey pickup a large dish with cheese at Ben's Chili Bowl on your coffee break..... 

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   mikerooney | May 31, 2005 05:25pm | #25

   Florida Grill.

    "Logic, like whiskey, loses it's beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities."        Lord Dunsany

    

                                                       

    

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   jackplane | May 31, 2005 06:17pm | #26

   I agree, Florida Grill is the better choice, especially for breakfast. 

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   gdavis62 | May 29, 2005 09:34pm | #5

   All that painted trim, is it pine?  Poplar?  Birch?  Solid or fingerjointed? 

   Is it MDF?

   How glossy is the painted finish?

   Gene Davis, Davis Housewrights, Inc., Lake Placid, NY

    

    

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 03:59pm | #11

   1x is windsor one all mouldings are pine no fingerjoints

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   gdavis62 | May 30, 2005 04:26pm | #12

   On the Windsor One boardstock, do you have any evidence of fingerjoint ends telegraphing through the paint finish?  There was a recent thread about this.

   I have used Windsor One trim boards, but not their moldings.  All the trim boards I purchased have been fingerjointed.Gene Davis, Davis Housewrights, Inc., Lake Placid, NY

    

    

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 05:17pm | #14

   I dont see any evidence of this. The trim was painted with a kremlin air mix sprayer. The windsor one is not a typical finger joint. It is made with thinner pieces of stock glued together overlapping eachother building up to its final thickness. I have been using it for a while and think its a great product.

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   gdavis62 | May 30, 2005 05:29pm | #15

    

   Can we clear this up?  I'm not doubting you about having no fingerjoints.  You must be using Windsor products I'm not aware of.

   Everything I have ever seen in products from Windsor has been fingerjointed.  Here is a clip from their website under the FAQ section:

   WindsorONE is free of lumber defects. #2 Pine, Spruce, and Fir have many defects which can include wane, knots, pitch, stain, bowing, splits, checking, and worm holes. Solid sawn lumber is prone to cup, twist, and warp. WindsorONE is end and edge glued, making it far more resistant to cupping, twisting, and warping

   When they say end glued, they mean fingerjointed.  With the Windsor One products I've used, the fingerjoints are evident when you rip boards, or if you make an end cut right in the middle of a joint.

   Was the sprayed finish a solvent-borne one, or was it waterborne?

    Gene Davis, Davis Housewrights, Inc., Lake Placid, NY

    

    

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 06:41pm | #17

   Maybe I'm wrong, but I do know that this product is not the same as fingerjointed material I see on interior moulding. The only time I would be aware of the fingerjoints ie shaperbit evidence is when cutting through a board at a random cross cut and I honestly don't rememmber this. But I've been wrong before. What I do remember is the built up overlapping glue up that I described earlier

   Edited 5/30/2005 3:59 pm ET by quicksilver

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   mikerooney | May 30, 2005 06:50pm | #19

   Have you ever used any of the FJ poplar that Perry's sells?"Logic, like whiskey, loses it's beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities."        Lord Dunsany

    

                                                       

    

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 06:54pm | #20

   Not to my recollection, although TW Perry is our main vendor.

   Edited 5/30/2005 12:15 pm ET by quicksilver

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   quicksilver | May 30, 2005 06:46pm | #18

   We only spray sovent bourne through that rig so the new regulations banning oil paint here has really hurt that investment. My wife finishes and now the rig is pretty much being used for only lacquer applications. Hopefully I'l find a way to keep our spray rig in the game. The kremlin provides us with a really really beatiful finish.

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   DougU | May 30, 2005 03:48am | #8

   QS

   Very nice!

   Love the painted woodwork, and the photography aint all that bad either.

   Doug