I recently attended a training session for the OSHA “competent person” requirements. The instructor (not employed by OSHA – he’s an independent safety consultant) said that if one were to plug an outlet strip (one containing a built in gfci) into a gfci outlet, the gfci’s would cancel each other out and that the circuit would not be interrupted in the event of a short. Is that correct? My wife’s hairdryer has a gfci built into the male cord end, and she is plugging it into a gfci outlet. Should I replace the male cord end with a standard (non-gfci) cord end? Thanks
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He's wrong.
I don't buy it.
Two gfi in a row is the same as one. once the ciruit is protected then everthing down stream is also. In this case more is not better. Mike
Get your money back. He's dumb.
Who Dares Wins.
"Get your money back. He's dumb."
That is the craziest thing that I have heard from you.
That guy worked hard for his money.
So he does not know everything. Have you every made a mistake?
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noodlebiter should be paid for the time that he wasted in the seminar.
" Have you every made a mistake? "
Never. :) I feel if your gonna teach safety you should know what your talking about. And something so obvious especialy to a trained safety instructor is just dumb. He doesn't know what he's talking about.Who Dares Wins.
Gunner, Gunner you need to read a little closer.
I never said who I was talking about.
noodlebiter is the one that made the mistake by not walking out and getting a beer or doing something else productive.
Thanks for the help.
Here's a nonscientific but field-proven answer: My neighbor's wife bought him, for his birthday, a 75' 12 ga. industrial grade extention cord with a GFCI plug (actually, I bought it for her at her request).
In use, he plugged it into an outdoor outlet (also GFCI). it was a foggy morning and the combination was tripping constantly until he replugged it into an unprotected circuit.
This is the more likely problem: A GFCI plugged into another GFCI will tend to result in false trips. But this is true only of full GFCI units, not the units they put in hair driers.
The reason for the false trips is probably that at least some GFCI units put a phantom voltage on the neutral to detect neutral-ground shorts, even with no load. This somehow buggers up the situation.
Whether it will happen, though, depends on the design and sensitivity of the unit.
I frequently run into a gfi "downstream" of another gfi.
When I test them, one or the other will trip, but rarely both.
I have concluded that the one which trips happens to be the one that is more sensitive.
I've never knowingly run into a situation where 2 gfi's cancelled one another out
I probably test 10 - 15 gfi's a day, and run into doubled gfi's about every 2 weeks +/-.
I think the instructor is wrong.
I also think it's a bad practice becasue
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