Golden Wrecked Angle’s House in Progress
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The end is in sight. The Rock face CMU and brick finally start going up next Monday. Upstairs is textured, downstairs probably has another weeks worth of work before it’s ready to shoot. I may just get this thing finished in time for my retirement after all.
Kevin Halliburton
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Lookin' good.
After it's done, you gonna have us all down for a house warming party?
If they taxed intelligence, he'd get a big rebate.
Thanks for the update! Good to see the progress. More pix, pls.
I'll try to post a few more next week. All my photos are on the computer at work.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Ok, a few more - I need a wider angle lens.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Is this your SIPs house (or am I totally confused)?
Leigh
Yes, this is the SIP house we started a looooooong time ago. Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Nice Job K.
What type of moldings you're thinking to use?
YCF Dino
The moldings are essentially just 1x4's but they are the old growth stuff that's hard to come by these days. Here is a shot of the way it was done in the high school where this trim was salvaged. We are planning (and planing) to do something pretty similar.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Ok Kevin, I was on board for the Thanksgiving day feast/trim fest..............
Up until the time you mentioned the use of the long leaf pine! Sorry I cant make it now....uhhh.....something came up, kids got the flu... yea, that's it.
I have built enough stuff with that darned wood since I have been down here to last a long time. I think its kind of neat(the look of it) but its not all that fun to work with. Gums everything up.
BTW I do think that the trim will look good, like the salvage idea, we need to save this stuff from the dump. I have about 4 houses worth of trim stored up in Iowa, cant stand to see it go to waste.
Doug
I hear what you are saying about soft woods gumming things up but this stuff is old enough and tight enough that it almost machines like hard wood. I'm honestly not sure I can ID this wood with any authority, it may not be long leaf after all, but whatever it is, it is just gorgeous stuff. I would hardly trouble myself with stripping a softwood for reuse in most cases but I really think this trim will be worth it.
I will try to remember to post a few close-ups of some of the trim the next time I have the camera out there.
In the mean time, a little block, and a little brick, makes a house a happy home.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Lookin' good Kevin, keep the pictures coming.
Is nothing like plain & simple wide trim on any house. new or old.
Good choice.
I was surprised the original had the wood panel on the top, I was envisioning the top panel as glass with chickenwire in it (in which case I would have been trying to replace it with stained/art glass). But it looks good with the wood panels.
Nice looking wood. That was a good find.jt8
This school was built in the early 1900's. There were several 4 foot wide by 8 foot tall oak doors with multiple glass panels in them that got sold for some real money. I just couldn't find a place for them anywhere in my plans.
I did get some of the transom windows. I will probably find a way to work them into the cabinetry. Here's a picture of a typical classroom door.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Yes, very nice doors. Need different handle, but otherwise would look nice combined with the transom (as pictured) or w/o transom... Or with stained/art glass (replacing clear)... Regular swing or pocket.
jt8
Edited 10/20/2004 5:08 pm ET by JohnT8
Two of the doors I salvaged have the origional handles on them. Simple, round, flat black knobs with a small black plate. We are going to try and replace the hardware with a simple clean lever type in flat black. I think levers are a lot more convenient than knobs when your hands are full.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
maybe gumwood? the grain looks right, it cuts well but is a pita to nail; used a lot in the 20-30's and stained to imitate light or dark mahogany . . .
Could be - I don't guess I've ever seen gum wood. At least not with the knowlege of what I was looking at. I can say with certaintly that the doors are oak and the trim is something else. I'll definitely post some close-ups here in a few days. I would really like to hear the opinions of more knowlegable folks as to the species.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Hey Kevin,
Great progress! I notice that SIPs will be the main ingrediant in the current installment/project of TOH (This Old House) as they celebrate their 25th year. As a result of your work, I actually knew what they were talking about!
Keep the pics coming.
Who says TOH never gets the jump on FHB?Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
kevin... nice lines.. great whimsey..
i like the smiley garage corner..
how about another shot of the oak tree in the interior ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Thanks Mike - Getting those simple lines was a lot more complicated than I realized it would be. It took about eight months worth of design work to make it look simple. I bet you can guess what rule governed most of the proportions.
Here is a shot of the tree during framing last January and one taken a couple of weeks ago. I'll be finishing the plaster some time this week - I hope. I'll post more when it's done... Just got to finish grinding away at the joists and scribing in the corner bead where they hit the furr downs in the rest of the house first. UGH!
The last two attachments are the first and second floor plans - Sorry for the file size folks but it was the only way to make them readable as .JPG's. Dialups, don't even bother!
If anyone is interested, I can post the Autocad .DWF files and you can look at them with the free Autodesk plug-in. The .DWF (Drawing Web Format) files are nice and small with total clarity but it takes a plug-in to view them.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
<Dialups, don't even bother>
I'm on dial-up, no problemo, about 15 seconds ea.
Keep the pics. coming, looks great!
Here is a picture showing some of the glass block openings from the inside. I'm standing in the mud room, in front of the garage door, looking across the entry foyer toward the office. I think the masons are going to be installing the glass block today or tomorrow - depending on weather. Never fails - start something that can't get rained on and the sky opens up. It's been raining pretty heavily in long spurts for the last several days.
In fact, we got about 2 inches in less than an hour last Friday. They didn't have the weeps drilled in the mortar joints yet and the water stacked up in the cavity enough to seep its way into the house in two rooms. I found out that air tight seal at my base plates isn't. RATS! Looks like I've got a little more sealing to do before the floor goes down and the base goes up.
The next shot is Super Dave, the drywall master, floating his way toward a level five finish. Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Back side as of last night.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Here is the new plaster limb on the tree. The first shot is after the first layer of plaster set over the wire mesh and the second one is after final coat with some knots and grain worked in.
To get the grain I just wet the plaster down with a rag and cut in the grain and knots with the tip of a small wire brush. I'm actually going to need a couple more layers of plaster to build out to the final shape but I figured this layer would be the best place to figure out a way to work in the grain.
I'm pretty happy with it so far. Can't wait to see if I can pull the illusion together with the final faux finish. I've never done oak, especially not right next to the real deal. This ought to be an interesting artistic challenge.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
ain't plaster fun ?
keep 'em comming... i want to see this room painted and decorated... bet you do too, huh ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
There have been a few art projects and casting molds where I used a little plaster but I've never worked with plaster before in construction. I suppose it would have been a good idea to ask for some advice here but it seems to be going ok. The thing I like about plaster most is that it's very forgiving.
This is Plaster of Paris. My paint store told me it would work just fine. Here's hoping it doesn't crumble off the wall in a couple of years.
And yes, I am definitley looking forward to move in!Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Diamond is the easiest.. Imperial is a little harder to work with..
and there is brown coat base too...
expanded metal lath is a good substrate...
fun to fool with.. if you get into whole rooms .. find a plastererMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Do you work plaster with standard drywall trowels?
I basically got a couple of handfulls of stiff plaster and just sculpted over the lathe like I was working with clay. I smoothed it with a drywall knife and then made a cheese grater out of a folded up piece of metal lathe and did a final shape as it started to set up.
Whole room? I'm pretty adventurous but it's not likely I'll give that one a shot anytime soon. If I do it will be in an effort to learn Venitian plaster for something out of the ordinary. I'm one of those suckers that tends to read about it and think, "hey, I could do that!"
Lol - In reality, their's probably not enough time left in my life to pick up another hobby that ambitious.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
the flat knives ( trowels ) are about the same..
the long ones are different... a drywall trowel has a little camber.. plaster is flat..
also if you are doing concave surfaces you need a "pool" trowel..
and you can get into plaster castings too... like ceiling medallionsMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
and you can get into plaster castings too...
Actually, now that you mention it, I've done some plaster slurry casting in silicone molds. I'm hoping the Cheng, flipped mold, concrete counter casting is going to be similar on a grander scale.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Re the Cheng counter job, it will be.
Contact Mongo and ask him to email you his wonderfully detailed how-to writeup on crete counters. You'll be glad you did.
Pay particular attention to his method and tool for vibration. Don't want no air bubbles, after all that work.
Thanks Bob. I've got the book and I've followed Mongo's posts here pretty closley. I'll contact him directly for his write-up. If I remember correctly his vibrator is an old counter weighted dryer motor bolted to the bench isn't it?Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
>the flat knives ( trowels ) are about the same..
While they start off the same--well, the same as a stucco trowel--the plasterers I know aren't happy till they've broken them in. A sharp edge will too easily catch and dig into the smooth plaster. They liked their edges old and worn smooth to avoid that.
Sounds like I could adapt. I don't like a drywall trowel with a sharp corner either. Mine get a slightly rounded corner before they ever get their first taste of mud.
Even though I actually enjoy mud work, and can do a pretty decent job with enough time, I've got enough sense to turn a whole house like this one over to an expert. Dave's work humbles my best efforts. He's going to a level five finish with a very fine orange peel texture. I couldn't do comparable work on my best day!Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Thanks! Some nice angles there, and detailing around the beam pockets.
Thanks Jim, that detailing around the beam pockets has been eating my lunch. The joists were left exposed for quite a while so they are taking a LOT of work to clean up. Every piece of the Trim-Tex 350 bull bead has to be scribed and contoured on the spindle sander to fit each joist after sanding. I think it will be worth it but it's not something I would want to be paying someone by the hour for.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
- I need a wider angle lens.
You might look to see if your camera has a 'panoramic' setting. Otherwise a couple shots merged together will also do the trick.
House looks good! Keep the pics coming (panoramic or not).
jt8
I love seeing this.....I know you and your family will enjoy this house......
Now, I have to tell you, I am a lover of old houses......But, there are times when I would love to live in a brand new house......You have to show pics on moving day.......<G>
Thanks Pi - I love old houses too.
This one might just qualify by the time I post those pictures you requested. :-)>Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Our house is 85 years old and we love it, but there are times!!
We live in a city of old houses and the only new ones built are condos.....I can't see living vertically......:)
You will get there......
A house with some style!--Nice.
Very nice looking place. I'm sure you are glad to be seeing daylight at the end.
I like the roof - details? It doesn't look like the standard (standing seam?) metal roofs I see around here-
Thanks Rick - That is an MBCI 7.2 panel roof. It's a commercial roof with a pretty aggressive profile - 7.2 inches between 1 1/2" tall ribs, exposed fasteners. It reminds me a lot of tile.
I've never been one for doing things like everyone else. Standing seam makes a beautiful roof but it seemed a little too refined and smooth for this style.
There are glass block windows on both sides of the door but they are covered right now until the mason is ready to work them in. The front facade will strongly resemble a smiling face when it's finished. I hope it's subtle enough to come off as more inviting than comical - We'll see.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Kevin, Looks great, I really like that porch.
The two quarter-circle windows ... what room are they in?
How about a Thanksgiving housewarming party? We could watch the games on your super size plasma tv, and your DW could try out the kitchen appliances :)
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Looks good Kevin, a few more pictures wouldn't kill you though!
Oh, I'm with Ed on the Thanksgiving diner thing, tell the wife we can do a pot-luck thing, she shouldn't have to do so much work for complete strangers.
Doug
Sure - come on up. I should be just about ready for trim around then and I can't think of anyone I'd rather have dropping by. :-)>Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
The quarter rounds at the corner are in the garage.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
I'll be glad to bring the smoked turkey from Rudy's BBQ.
Nice house Golden....keep up the good work.
blue
That's a nice house. I really like the way those arch-tops catch that low sunlight, and tha wrap around porch. How about some interior shots?
This is a new house, right?
edit; Ooops, I shot my mouth off before I read further posts :^}
The interior looks very nice and bright. What will the woodwork be?
Edited 10/18/2004 7:43 pm ET by DAVE HEINLEIN
The wood work is going to be oak and long leaf pine. Here's a shot of one of the solid oak rail and style doors we rescued from an old high school my firm renovated. The long leaf pine trim came from the same school.
There is a large oak tree carrying the weight of a large portion of the second floor. The limb I needed to transition to the ceiling had been removed so we are tying in with plaster. Just kind of making some of these details up as I go...
Finally - A couple of shots showing why we decided to build in this particular spot in the first place. Using satalite imaging overlayed with our survey I managed to orient the house to frame these two views perfectly with the picture windows in the kitchen and the Living Room.Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...
Kevin:
I was immediately captivated by your thread. We have just secured a site and will be building a custom home in the immediate future. I've been doing all the research I can about building with SIPs or ICFs, and using metal roofing.
Can you tell me about the metal roof you used? How does it compare to a conventional asphalt shingle roof in price and performance? How about installation and availability? We will be building in the Great Lakes region, any limitations to metal roofs here?
I want to use commercial/industrial building products. Everything I've heard so far seems to say they're cheaper. I'd like to know if this is the case in actual application.
Hey - that's great! Congratulations on the new property and good luck with your plans.
Here is the manufacturer and roof panel we used. http://www.mbci.com/mbci/docs/catalog/!c&i_cd.pdf (See page CI-17)
The panels were a little cheaper than standing seam but not by much. I had a very hard time finding a contractor to install it and they were all expensive, primarily because none of the installers I could find had ever used the product so they factored in a learning curve mark-up. If your installer follows the instructions it should be no problem at all but setbacks and install details are different than standard metal roofing so be sure they pay attention. It's probably a whole different animal than they are used to.
The box rake trim I ordered looked horribly clunky and out of place on the house once a few pieces were installed so I redesigned it and had new rake trim custom bent. If you like the panel and decide to use it let me know and I will be happy to send you the drawing I did for the fabricator.
I'm totally sold on Structural Insulated Panels too. The main downside is that the installer base is still pretty thin in some areas. You might try a search here. A year or so ago there were several threads on SIPs that offered a lot of good information. FHB has featured several SIP houses but I'm still hoping the magazine will do a full blown article on panels. Taunton's "building with SIPs" is probably the best printed resource I found.
Again, congrats and good luck!Kevin Halliburton And with that, the great emporer Oz gently floated away on a curtain of hot air, laughing at the unfortunate ignorance of little people beneath him. But under his breath he cursed that stupid little dog...