Hi,
My contracting business is growing and I’m looking for a software program that can grow with me. I have been using OBPro but am looking at Goldenseal from Turtle Creek Software as well (mac user).
Have any of you had some time working with Goldenseal?
Thanks!
Tom
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i like this one...
http://www.synapsesoftware.com/
Works great for passing a drug test. Oh, THAT Goldenseal, never mind.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
One THING at a time , Yup.
I thought the same thing.... sick minds think alike.
But we all mo betta now..right?
(G) Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
One THING at a time , Yup.
Yep.... been almost 7 years since I had the need.
I steeped and drank a QT of that stuff once, puked for hours.
Passed the test tho'...and became a drug conseler..(G) Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
One THING at a time , Yup.
Had a new hire ask me if I had objections to goldenseal. Told him to not even take the drug test, just go home. THat was my first run in with it. Software, never heard of, sorry.An inch to short. That's the story of my life !
bstcrpntr --- I hope to grow into this name.
Does goldenseal want you to drink a bunch of water? NORML.com or .org says them things don't work. Following the water drinking istructions is what makes you pass.Big Macs - 99 cents
HellifIknow
what a loaded ? that is.
" excuse me, do you still beat your wife"? (G) Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
One THING at a time , Yup.
now a daze they have stuff that looks like Gator aide cept it costs 30 bucks...it works and don't ask how I know...like you don't know anyway.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
Goldenseal for beating drug tests, huh? Shows how long I've been out of it! When I saw the subject I figured it was about whether it works for colds and flu. The answer is yes - especially if you have fresh root. Chew on it - tases like cr#p, definately an acuquired taste - and you can lose a sore throat in a day or two. Best if you start when the symptoms are just showing.
Maybe this software is used to heal your ailing business processes?
It does work for cold and flu.
I buy powdered root. Put it into double aught capsules myself.
Get a bad cold, take two of those capsules, three times a day.
It also worked to bring the infections back down when I was having all that trouble with my teeth for several years. In retrospect, probably the only reason I didn't die of an abcessed tooth, like a second cousin of mine did.
Are we there yet ?
Highly regarded by the natives of appalacia for just that reason. IIRC it was also called "yellow root". Grows in fertile soils of the glacier strews, high in granite dust and rock flour.
Also has a beneficial aspect as to malaria or other pox'es of the immuno/endrocrin systems.
If it weren't for harvesting Ginsang, and Yellow root, and Mistletoe, I very well may have starved to death living in the Great Smokies...sang hit an all time high of 700$ a lb., I got 100.00 for a hefty bag of ( 30 gallon) of "toe"..ya have to shoot it outta the tree with a .22. Talk about dialing in a gun sight, and wasting ammo.
"sang" is protected on NAt For. land, no more free will harvest, the traipsers destroyed the natural rhyzohme type root sys, by over harvesting, and the feds put a squash on it.
You might could grow some at your location, but cultivated vs. wild is a world of difference, and fetches a lot lower price. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
let's be entrophatic, you start
If I tried to grow anything like that at my place, the methhead neighbors would have it harvested before you could say "thief".
Are we there yet ?
Could you plant a patch of deadly nightshade instead? Some kids here use it for a high. Works unless you overdose, then it's mucho unpleasant.
Get ya some good cow poop and try Psyillacybin shrooms? They'd be so happy, they'd leave the good stuff alone.
Bait and switch buddy, bait em.
my arm still hurts, ya big galoot. LOL Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
let's be entrophatic, you start
Growing up one of my best friends would always make a trip into the woods a bit after Thanksgiving to collect mistletoe. It was a regular family outing for them. They would use a single shot .410 with discount shells.They would come home with boxes of the stuff. They would then spend a few afternoons decorating posterboard displays and wiring sprigs of mistletoe, a few berries and a red bow, of course, to little rectangles of cardboard they had a local printer produce with various Christmas messages. These they would hawk to the local retailers. The display had something like twenty sprigs artfully presented and marked with a price of $2, minimum wage was about that. These the retailer would pay perhaps $15 a shot for. Selling thirty or so of these they would divide the proceeds, after gas and shells were paid for, and everyone had Christmas money. The family got time together in the woods. The kids learned about enterprise and business. Dad got to play with a gun. Mom designed the decorations on boards. One year they bagged a deer with the little .410 so evidently they had a few slug shells handy.I think liability concerns, mistletoe being poisonous, or maybe it was commercial competition, that ended the practice. Good folks.Consider this to be both a diversion and a bump. Always the sweet comes with the bitter. Which is which depends on who you talk to. Expect three opinions from any two people.
Thank you Mike Smith for your response to the question.
Could the rest of you guys please take the jokes and reminiscences to the Tavern? Its kind of difficult to get a real response if someone clicks on the discussion and it's all about getting around a drug test instead of about a software product. I think the occasional joke is fine to insert in a thread but hijacking a thread is poor etiquette in my humble opinion.
Thanks,
Tom
You Don't Want to Know.
You Aren't Going to Know.
tom.. you're welcome...
sorry about thses immature 1 year-old girls who are clogging up the thread...
hah, hah, hah
edit:
BTW... i've met most of 'em... and they're just as bad in person...
everything's a big joke with them.... not like you and me, huh ?
seriously.. i never wudda know about either goldenseal.. now , i too, am on the inside
i've used the predecessor to BuildWorks ( GC Works ) since 1998. It has really changed the way we do business in terms of estimates, job costing, and Proposals/ Contracts
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Edited 8/19/2005 10:23 am ET by MikeSmith
Yeah.
Well when I saw the title, I figgered it was some employer wanting to know if it worked so he wouldn't hire some druggie.
Ya can't blame us if some software company wants to normlize drugs.
SamT
IronDog I started out with Turtle Creeks original product for estimating MacNail many years ago but I never made the switch over to GoldenSeal. The main reason for that being I hate the interface and the look and feel of the program. While they do finally have a OSX version of the program it's still a Mac OS 7 look and feel and were in a OSX world nowadays. I have other issues with the program too but rather than going into all of them if you'll email me with your contact information I'll forward it to another contractor I know locally who does use it and you can solicit his comments on it.
We now use the FileMaker based systems we developed starting back around '97 ( for estimating, job control, and managerial accounting) in conjunction with MYOB's Accountedge for financial accounting and reporting (which we just switched to from QB this past year) but like I said e-mail me and I'll contact this other contractor I know ( I guess he doesn't hang out here) and you can talk to him.
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jerrald.. i tried TurtleCreek a long time ago also.. never could warm up to it
i had some CPM and DOS systems too.. they weren't bad.. but didn't make the transition to WindowsMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Lighten up Francis.
Roar!
Spaghetti? The secret is in the sauce!
Hunts with garlic.
On the the up side all the wiseacre responses keep the thread up at the top of the list. Helpful bumpage and fairly funny too.I too figured the thread was dealing with herbs. Being in the 'business' section provided an alternative clue but I figured it was misfiled and would be relocated in short order.Of course you called a lot of this in on your own position. "Goldenseal. Anyone use it?" is pretty vague. If you didn't want the humor you could have used a different title line. Something like : Mgmt software, Goldenseal, Anyone use it? would have clarified what you were talking about.It is also, IMHO, poor form to scold the people you are asking advice from. A sense of humor always helps. Both dealing with people having a little fun, even fairly inappropriately, and those who post poorly titled threads. Worse case, if the thread get irretrievably lost, you start another thread. One with a better thought out title line might be good. Not too heavy a burden IMO.
4lorn;If I had known that a plant or plant extract called Golden Seal was used by drug users in an attempt to fool drug tests then I might well have used another title. Who knows maybe Turtle Creek Software might have used another name for its product. But I'm just not up on such things.How ever many were drawn in by the unintended double meaning of the title would surely have figured out that this was about software and not
drugs. I have gotten a few responses to my actual question and for that I am grateful. I guess what I'm trying to say to the Golden Seal(the herb) crowd is,"Dude, don't bogey this thread!" (cough,cough)You Don't Know.
You Don't Want to Know.
You Aren't Going to Know.
I think an earlier post from an old thread said it best when he mentioned he compared the patrons of BT to the actors in the old war flicks like Stalag 17 or The Great Escape.
aw hello, I had to go look it up...
"...remember all the great war movies... like "platoon"... or "stalag 17"..
or " the great escape"... they had all these characters in them... the "professor".. the "jock".. the " misfit".... the " magician".... the one who always got the "dear john " letter ?...
that's what these guys and gals seem like to me.. all players reading the script of life..
every once in while.. some of 'em end up on the cutting floor, edited out..
but for the most part.. BT would be less if anyone leaves..
quite the soap opera , ain't it ?..."
So we all just go on hoping the allies will arrive soon.
be prospero perfect
Spaghetti? The secret is in the sauce!
Hunts with garlic.
Edited 8/20/2005 10:31 am ET by rez
Well Irondog it turns out that getting that Goldenseal user Jud here to talk about his experience with it ain't gonna happen. I did reach him but it was just as he was getting set to go off on vacation until Sept. 5th so unless some other user of Goldenseal Software (not the herb) steps up to the plate you not going to hear about it here. What he did say in his e-mail to me was:
That had me surprised but then again not so surprised. While I do think database estimating programs are the way to go over spreadsheet based solutions I don't like the architecture or the tools of the Goldenseal system especially when it came to estimating. I think the TC people would have been better off designing a solution within an already extant database system such as FileMaker, 4D or even MS Access rather than coding their own database from scratch. They can't possibly have the resources or development dollars that those companies have for database design and development.and I think they could have better spent their time on the actual solution design. I think that's one of the reasons why they are stuck with that OS7 look and feel even though they finally have gotten the program to run native in Mac OS X.
As for Goldenseal accounting running through the demo and manual as did way back when I found it confusing perhaps because it is so much different in how it works than QB and MYOB Account Edge. Why they haven't really gotten up and running with Goldenseal after almost a year I could couldn't possibly hazard a guess.
What exactly is it your looking for in an accounting program that QB isn't doing for you? Have you run through the Goldenseal demo and manual yet? Have you looked at MYOB's Accountedge too? The payroll module in MYOBAE blows QBs away if that happens to be one of your gripes with it.
Irondog -"If I had known that a plant or plant extract called Golden Seal was used by drug users in an attempt to fool drug tests then I might well have used another title. Who knows maybe Turtle Creek Software might have used another name for its product. But I'm just not up on such things.
How ever many were drawn in by the unintended double meaning of the title would surely have figured out that this was about software and not ...
I guess what I'm trying to say to the Golden Seal(the herb) crowd is,
"
Dude, don't bogey this thread!" (cough,cough)"
Well look on the bright side of it. You topic has brought in a few guys who otherwise I have never really seen venturing inside the business folder on this site so maybe that's a good thing and will work help them out someway in the long run.
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And vice versa..? Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
let's be entrophatic, you start
Sphere - "
And vice versa..?"
'Don't think so Sphere. Been there and done that. Coincidentally it just so happens I got away from that world twenty-one years and three days ago.
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but , who's counting ?... right ?
hey.... AH... you missed a great fest...
but then , you missed a great fest last year , too..
you do know that there are a lot of non-and former drinkers , druggies, etc... that participate , right... ?
seriously....
i , personally , was disappointed not to get a chance to break bread and chew the fat with you... and several others...
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
MikeSmith - "you do know that there are a lot of non-and former drinkers , druggies, etc... that participate , right... ?" I very certainly do.
"hey.... AH... you missed a great fest...
but then , you missed a great fest last year , too.."
I'm beginning to think as long as they are in August it's going to be tough for me to get away to one. August always seems to be my toughest month. Since I'm single and no kids and my life is not regulated by school schedules I fill in for the guys as they take their vactions with their families.
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hmmm... you're right... August is tough.. but a great month for a fest..
TexFest was November... i think ReckoFest was April... both were under attended..
anyways.. the next one on the east coast you've got to make... no excuses..
what's the sense of owning a business if it owns you ?
edit:
the timing has always been debated..
here' s the basic thinking behind the 2d weekend in August:
far enough into the season so you know how the year is going
out of the rainy season and before hurricane season, although it has rained at every fest
far enough before most school starts so most will not have a conflict.. the closer it gets to Labor Day, the more conflicts arise.
it's late winter in Australia...
it's the middle of holiday for our European and British friends
the attendance is so big that it almost has to be outdoors
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Edited 8/20/2005 1:58 pm ET by MikeSmith