My latest rubbermaid on wheels gave it up last week…the wheels got ripped off while we were tipping it over to dump……
So now I’m on a mission to finally get a durable demo can.
Looked at the Grainger site…..might see what they have at the local store….
But I’m tired of the disposable cans on wheels I pick up from HD or Lowes.
Need something heavy duty enough to last more than 2 dumpsters.
Something with handles down low would ne nice too….
Definitly gotta have wheels.
Who likes what?
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery…..While U Waite
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Not so much easy to lift but indestructable
55 gallon steal drum with casters and handles bolted or welded to the sides, 2 on each side, one at the top, one a third of the way up
need 2 to lift when its full.
If you can find a local manufacturer of the drums their cheap, 25-35 a drum.
ditto. i use a drum cart, like a hand truck with clamping arms, grab a drum, roll out. i do mostly small jobs, have 4 drums, roll onto liftgate of truck, to dumpster at shop. used to use ramps into pickup. cart from Northern or Loft's or Grangers
To Jeff,
You're a carpenter right? why not MAKE your own indestructible cart? Buy the can, MAKE your own frame on wheels.
Hey Jeff-
Yeah, I've seen a lot of plastic cans take the final trip to the dump in the company truck. But it seems they will usually last reasonably long for the kind of sh*t they're put through- drug, tossed, saw cuts, holes, freezing. What's the big deal on the $10 cost of a garbage can over the value of the job(s) that can is servicing? I will say one thing, when the cans get holes, best to toss 'em before somebody deposits liquids (texture mud, etc.).
At the building I do side work on, the janitorial staff uses HEAVY duty plastic cans that are considerably tougher than the run of the mill cans. Also cost like $50 or so. Always wondered how these industrial/janitorial cans would fare on the jobsite. Oh, yeah, you can also get a caster setup to roll the thing around on. You're not gonna find this kind of stuff at HD.
By the way, anybody use the metal galv. cans anymore?
Here's hoping we can devote even more discussion time to the subject of trash cans.
Ken Hill
Sorry this should have been to Jeff
Go the build route or consider the heavy plastic ones from Sam's Club along with their hand truck. Let the hand truck do double duty on the jobsite, haul in materials, tools, trash out. Use hand truck too if you build your own bin. Customise bin to hold cleanup tools or whatever.
Edited 3/24/2003 10:03:27 PM ET by RASCONC
Try these, they are from GlobalIndustrial.com
This is for carts and trucks. Some of them are material handling dump carts with capacity that range from 1/2 cu yd/300 lbs to 2.5 cu yd/2500 lbs.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2A3511F3
And this is a link to janitorial equipment include veritical waste containers which range from 50 to 95 gals.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1F3121F3
Most of these are Rubbermaid brand, but there are several others.
Similar stuff should be available from places like Grainers, material handeling places, and janitorial supplies.
A lot depends on what you're demoing and how you get rid of it. I just use old 5 gallon paint cans mostly. Two of them full of plaster, tile, stucco, etc, is about all I can carry, one in each hand. I also soak the contents before dumping to keep the dust down. I just use them til they break, then dump them. No great loss, there are plenty more....
Wood I cut to fireplace length, it goes in one of those short, wide tubs from the supermarket, the 10 - 15 gallon kind. I also bend the nails over, since this all goes to my BIL's fireplace. He can burn it faster than I demo it.
Plumbing and electrical conduit I have a place for in the garage, I'll probably recycle it all when the job is done. But for now, there really isn't that much of it or anything else other than plaster and wood.
-- J.S.
Jeff,
I bought a heavy duty rubbermaid can (w/o wheels) at HD a while ago. About twice the cost ($20) of the regular type (also w/o wheels) that I usually use, but it's held up better. It doesn't distort as much when loaded down.
I hate cans with wheels, because they usually seem cheap. I would either use a can dolly, which would only work on smooth surfaces, or a hand truck. The latter is probably your best bet.
If you want more than rubbermaid, I gotta go with building one. Couple sheets of ply, some scrap, some wheels. Slant the front so the tops bigger than the bottom, which makes it easier to tip (which works against you if you put insulation in the bottom and ceramic on top, you'll fall before you get to the dumpster), couple pieces of steel tubing for a handle. If you're like me and break stuff over the edge all the time, a couple of pieces of aluminim angle screwed to the top edge keeps you from demolishing your trash bin. Carpet scraps on the sides to keep from gouging doors going through, and probably don't make it wider than 24-26".
" If you kill a man, it is a tragedy. If you kill a million, it is a statistic." - Josepf Stalin, attributed.
The way I heard the Stalin quote, it's:
"One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."
-- J.S. (no, not *that* J.S.)
TomAto ToMAHto :-)" If you kill a man, it is a tragedy. If you kill a million, it is a statistic." - Josepf Stalin, attributed. Subject to interpretation by JS heh heh heh
I just bought some 90 gal barrels with wheels from the trash haulers here in town.
They were switching to a new collection company and had 15k of those heavy duty carts for the trash trucks with the automatic handler arms.
Personally I like using the contractor garbage bags (3 mil). Incredably durable and easier to sling it over my back and down the stairs than a garbage can.
Those bags are the best tool of the century.
"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is."
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Sounds like you might be loading them too heavy. I guess Im a trash guy at heart. I use 5 gallon buckets , rolling cheapies the renters leave, 55 gallon barrels in plastic and metal. Ive got burning barrels and burned out metal barrels I use to burn stumps. Ive got a trailer just for trash or shingle removal. I use a dolly and four wheeler ramps to load the barrels.
Pretty much a trashy set up.
Tim Mooney
They're only too heavy when ya can't pick them up!
Even them...another shovel never hurt no one!
I do have a dolly in the van.....that was the no 2 can. But ya gotta strap the can on as to not damage anything in the house.....then....ya can't dump it quick w/o unstrapping...or lifting the whole contraption.
And.....I ain't gonna build my own damn trash can! U kids are taking this whole "I'm a carpenter" thing way to far there!
Will probably just go back to the semi-disposable ones. Went thru Graingers site...
had nice looking stuff for close to $100! I don't need a trash can that bad...I'd be afraid to get it dirty.
Bags and buckets would have me demo'ing for years....I gotta get in and get it out asap.
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite
"Bags and buckets would have me demo'ing for years....I gotta get in and get it out asap. "
Yes , it would if thats all you had . Thing is nothing works for every thing . Im not a fan of a plastic bag because it wont stay open . But,... they make a holder for one that collapes. I like a 5 gallon bucket for demo tile work, and holding water and mud scraping floors . Those two things alone wouldnt be too handy for a big trash can . Its always something isnt it ?
Tim Mooney
Tim, right. I have a thin piece of plastic that rolls open and sits in the garbage bag keeping it open and up and has handles cut into it that lets you pull it out when its full. Costs under ten bucks..its good for putting leaves in bags as well if you need to. HD sells it.
Be rolled up
Namaste
andy"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is." http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
"I do have a dolly in the van.....that was the no 2 can. "
Um, Jeff, I think we've discussed at length in other threads about carpenters leaving "no 2" presents in cans at jobsites. Unanimously decided to be unprofessional. Plus, you have more issues than needing a new bin if you need a dolly to tote around and dump (no pun intended) your "no 2" can.
:)If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.
you thinking I should get that checked out, huh?
Maybe yer right.....been doing lotsa crappy work lately.......
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite
Jeff,
I bought several HEAVY duty rubbermaid cans from a restraunt supply house several years ago. Back then they cost over $40 each. Indestructible. I prove it every day.
We frequently put 2/3 of a square of shingles/scraps in each one( or more) .On small repairs we just load 'em up ,and put 'em on the truck untill we do a full roof job---at which time my dump guy emptys em out and hauls the stuff away with the days haul. they are known as "steve's 500 pound trash cans".
no wheels though.
I drill about 15-20 1/8" holes in the bottom of each one so they don't fill up with rain water.
As a former professional janitor, I feel obligated to contribute my 2¢.
RubberMaid Brute cans are the heavy duty ones to buy - if you want them to last. Yellow is prettier than the gray ones. You don't need the lids [unless you're Panama Red]. The thing to be aware of is to not overfill them. Maybe 100 pounds or so -- whatever one man can handle. Otherwise, it will take two people just to dump them.
I suspect that some posters are getting the terms "dolly" and "handtruck" confused. They are different things. A dolly is a slab of plywood with four casters under it. It is used, for instance, to move couches. A handtruck has 2 wheels and a small platform and a tall handle arrangement. The load is placed on the platform and then the whole shebang is tilted back onto the wheels and is rolled or trucked around. Typically, it is used for refrigerators [reefers to Mr. Red] and, in this case, garbage cans.
~Peter, the former accidental janitor
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Anyway, when I worked for a moving company we called the dollies, either dollies or furniture dollies, Hand trucks were 2 wheel dollies.View ImageGo Jayhawks
hand truck it is!
I do happen to carry a dolly...4 wheeled carpeted platform thing.....in the van too.
But that's for moving cab's and such around.
Amazing how much about $40 for the hand truck and $25 for the dolly can save you time/frustration and yer back. I'm surprised more guys don't carry this stuff daily.
I'm usually the only one on site with the hand truck..and so far..I'm the only one with the flat dolly.
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite