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   zak | Oct 22, 2006 04:52am | #1

   . . . . the money right out of your wallet.  I've just taken the first step, to admit that I have an addiction.  I'm not sure if there's anything to do about it though.

   zak

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   "so it goes"

    

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   IMERC | Oct 22, 2006 04:55am | #2

   which ever ones(s) you have..

   feed them... 

    

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   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   DanH | Oct 22, 2006 04:55am | #3

   Yeah, they're priced per oz rather than per lb. Troy oz I'm thinking.
   If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

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   zak | Oct 22, 2006 04:59am | #4

   Unless you get stainless.

   Priced by the carat.zak

   "When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

   "so it goes"

    

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   DanH | Oct 23, 2006 05:40am | #5

   OK, got to use them a little more, and a couple of minor gripes:

   -- The Torx drive doesn't hold screws as tightly as square drive -- screw won't stay on the bit if you shake it even a little.

   -- The bare shaft of their all-purpose screws is too short. You don't get parts drawn together unless the top part is fairly thin.

   If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
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   DanH | Oct 23, 2006 05:42am | #6

   And another minor gripe is having to change bits between 1-3/4" and 2-1/2" screws. Most Phillips and square drive screws in that range work with a single bit.
   If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

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   Piffin | Oct 23, 2006 01:39pm | #10

   You just need different size screws is all, you can get the same bit/head /shank size all the way down to about an inch as what you are using on the 2=1/2" 

    

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   DanH | Oct 23, 2006 02:06pm | #11

   Yeah, the only place in town that carries them just has a limited selection, so that may be part of the issue.
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   Piffin | Oct 23, 2006 02:18pm | #12

   I see.
    

    

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   basswood | Oct 23, 2006 03:12pm | #13

   You might check Thomas Tool, for better selection of GRK.

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   Shoeman | Oct 23, 2006 07:10am | #7

   -- The bare shaft of their all-purpose screws is too short. You don't get parts drawn together unless the top part is fairly thin.

   My gripe about most screws.  Would like general purpose screws to have at least 1/3 of the shaft smooth - if not more.

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   caseyr | Oct 23, 2006 07:29am | #8

   For deck screws, I am happy with the DeckMates from Home Depot. Why should I switch. I found that when using the special DeckMate bit (combination Phillips and square drive), that I almost never "cam out" - which I can't say with either straight Phillips or square drive. I was really surprised when I started using square drive that I had almost as much trouble camming out as with the phillips.

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   DanH | Oct 23, 2006 01:28pm | #9

   DeckMates snap too often on me.
   If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

4. 
   BryanKlakamp | Oct 24, 2006 04:50am | #15

   Dan,

   You should try the ProMax screws from McFeely's. On a 2 7/8" screw, they have a 1 5/8" smooth shaft with approx. 1 1/4" thread. Works great to pull a 2 x tight to another piece of wood.

   They come in several different finishes.

   Bryan"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."

   Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio

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   Sancho | Oct 24, 2006 06:11am | #16

   Read my mind..I like McFeeleys..but for interior stuff I like Grabbers..I dont know where my lumberyard gets them but theyre pretty good screws too. 

                

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   xxPaulCPxx | Oct 24, 2006 10:18am | #17

   I second that, they are now my favorite screw.

   I drove one about 3/4 into a piece of wood just to tack something on... and I couldn't back it out again.  I put a fresh battery in my 18v Ryobi (1200lb inch i think it hits) and still couldn't unwind it.  Didn't strip or break, even after beating on it for about 10 minutes.  I finally just cut the piece off, and saw that I had driven it into a knot in the wood.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA

   Also a CRX fanatic!

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   RippySkippy | Oct 23, 2006 03:49pm | #14

   In deed they do.

   Last month I went to the fall event at the Woodsmith Store in Des Moines, and the GRK man was there and giving samples away left and right.

   Left the store with a bunch of the adjustable jamb screws, concrete screws (which by the way ROCK) and a boat load of misc screws. Torx bits...big ones and small ones with telescoping screw holder. Oh man I was a happy man.

   Now, use'em or bank'em?

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   IMERC | Oct 24, 2006 11:22am | #18

   at least the customer service does..

   one act in town and they know it..... CACHING...

   GRK's locator service lists vendors that closed their doors 10 years ago..

   Months ago my fastener wholesaler looked into carrying them..

   as in 6 plus months..

   He still hasn't heard from GRK's CS, sales or field rep...

   even after asking for a hook up on numerous occasions..

   He proved to me that their CS people get upset if you ask more than 2 questions..

   but they have a great product...

    

    

    

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

   WOW!!! What a Ride!

   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   Piffin | Oct 24, 2006 02:25pm | #19

   they do seem to let the product do the talking.up here, we are closer to them and I have an in withthem. one of my electrician's father is the sales rep for this corner at least - of the country. He travels all the trade shows so many guys here at BT have probably seen him and sampled his wares 

    

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   IMERC | Oct 24, 2006 03:48pm | #20

   many guys here at BT have probably seen him and sampled his wares

   that's suspicious...

   pass the word along about our difficulties if ya can... 

    

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   basswood | Oct 24, 2006 04:05pm | #21

   Here a supplier that dropped GRK got so much grief from contractors that they quickly switched back.The only the big box does not stock GRK...all the little guys do. They are just about the only screws we use.

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   IMERC | Oct 24, 2006 04:09pm | #22

   no faulting the product...

   CS leaves a bit to be desired.. 

    

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   xxPaulCPxx | Oct 24, 2006 07:13pm | #23

   Check into http://www.screw-products.com/, they have a similar product, are on the west coast, and seem to be very end user friendly.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA

   Also a CRX fanatic!

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   Piffin | Oct 25, 2006 01:01am | #24

   Will do.
   Maybe I oughta start an online GRK outlet...nah 

    

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