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Grout or Caulk around fixtures

| Posted in Construction Techniques on May 26, 2006 03:55am

I suspect this might be opinion and preference but I’ll ask anyway.  Any thoughts on whether to grout or caulk around the fixture like in the attached picture?  Because the fixture is tight to the tiles, I’d think a thin band of grout would crack but I don’t say this out of experience. 

If it matters, the tiles are stone.

Thanks in advance.

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  1. Greg | May 26, 2006 04:48pm | #1

    Caulk. I've always done an upside down 'U' shape under the trim on a shower valve. That will let water out but keep it dry from the shower.

    I agree - thin grout would crack and sooner or later you're gonna have to work on the valve anyway...

    The older I get, the better I was....
  2. davidmeiland | May 26, 2006 05:33pm | #2

    I might caulk around the top half of that trim, might not depending on whether there is a decent seal as part of it. Definitely not grout.

    1. mojo | May 26, 2006 06:06pm | #3

      Thank you for the replies.  It sounds like this is best practice.  I'll caulk around the top.

      Thank you.

      1. gtmtnbiker | May 26, 2006 10:58pm | #4

        My memory is hazy but I think it depends on the manufacturer on the valve plate.  If you get a good brand, you shouldn't have to caulk at all.  The Hans Grohe shower fixtures that I used a couple of years ago had rubber gaskets underneath the plate. There was no need to caulk.

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          jonblakemore | May 27, 2006 05:05am | #9

          Will any gaskets handle the recessed area where the grout joint is if the diverter doesn't break over a full tile?My inclination is to caulk from eight o'clock to four o'clock. 

          Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA

          1. DanH | May 27, 2006 06:05am | #10

            Some gaskets will, some won't. Probably most won't handle a major dip, but a little dab of caulk may fix that.
            If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

  3. DanH | May 27, 2006 12:01am | #5

    The plate should have a rubber gasket behind it, making caulking unnecessary. If the gasket fails sometimes you can remove it and install a "snake" of plumber's putty in it's place. Use enough putty to squeeze out slightly, then clean up the excess.

    If you decide to caulk (certainly an acceptable option), do only a thin bead -- it shouldn't run up the edge of the plate or out over the tile, but should be barely visible between plate and tile.

    As was already said, always leave a weep hole at the bottom.

    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
    1. mojo | May 27, 2006 01:19am | #6

      Thank you.  I'll caulk if there is no gasket.  It is Kohler and I did not install it myself.

      Thanks again

      Edited 5/26/2006 7:32 pm ET by Mojo

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      EricPaulson | May 27, 2006 03:53am | #7

      If the gasket fails sometimes you can remove it and install a "snake" of plumber's putty in it's place. Use enough putty to squeeze out slightly, then clean up the excess.

      That looks like tumbled marble from here..........plumbers putty is an excellent way to permanently stain the tiles. Be careful.

      Eric[email protected]

       

       

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  4. plumbbill | May 27, 2006 04:35am | #8

    Were just finishing up over 650 valves in one condo/hotel & we used clear caulk on all of them even the ones that have a built in gasket.

    Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

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    JeffBuck | May 27, 2006 06:42am | #11

    the wall would be grouted first ...

    then ... the trim kit is added.

     

    the plumbing trim kit has nothing to do with the tile job ...

     

    so no grout.

    clear caulk is the way to seal a plumbing fixture that sits on top of the already grouted tile job.

     ... plumbers walk around with matching caulk?

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

  6. RTC | May 27, 2006 07:00am | #12

    clear silicone

     

    RTC

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    Matt | May 28, 2006 01:53am | #13

    Tile stores sell sanded caulks that are kind of half way between caulk and grout.  That's what my tile guys use.

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      BillHartmann | May 28, 2006 05:11am | #14

      "Tile stores sell sanded caulks that are kind of half way between caulk and grout. That's what my tile guys use."And also unsanded. Match to the type of grout.

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