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   DLandry | Nov 21, 2002 05:10am | #1

   Hi Hat,

   I'd shingle the roof first if for only one reason; gutters make a sketchy leaning surface for ladders which you'll most certainly need to use. Also, I'm always worried about rain until the roofing goes on; it's  more fundamental to the protection of the house than gutters, though gutters can be important.

    I always hire a gutter guy to make gutter onsite out of coil stock. That way there are no seams to leak, save for corners. I usually go for an appropriately colored galvanized- they're sturdier.

       good luck!

   
   

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   Edited 11/20/2002 9:12:55 PM ET by dllandry

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   goldhiller | Nov 21, 2002 07:08am | #2

   One consideration here is what type of gutter hangers are you using. If you choose the roof strap type, you'll want those in place before you lay shingles, but you needn't mount the gutters themselves until the shingles are on. Just make sure you have appropriate slope on the straps for the run of the gutter. You wouldn't want to find out that things aren't right after the shingles are on. This, for me, also includes making certain that the location of any and all gutter joints is known ahead of time so that straps can be placed nearby those joints for support.

   If you choose most any other type of hanger, it'll wait until the shingles are on.

   I usually opt for the galvanized also because of the sturdiness.

   Knowledge is power, but only if applied in a timely fashion.
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   BossHog | Nov 21, 2002 04:10pm | #3

   If you put on your gutters first, they'll fill up with bits of shingles, granules off the face of the shingles, and anything else that's dropped while on the roof.

   And - as dllandry said - The ladders are bound to damage the gutters, unless you were extraordinarily careful.

   Why do most countries have only one Monopolies Commission?

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   xMikeSmith | Nov 22, 2002 01:08am | #4

   even the aluminum gutters will support ladders if you space your hangers as they should be.. which is 2' .. wether it's roof hangers or fascia hangersMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   RichBeckman | Nov 22, 2002 03:28am | #5

   The problem with roofing before the gutter is the drip edge and the overhanging shingles need to be protected from the ladder.

   If the fascia isn't covered in metal, then you can just nail a 2x to the fascia to support the ladder.

   If the fascia is covered in metal, then I'm reluctant to be putting holes in the metal and I will use the metal standoff attachment on the ladder (but I don't like those for getting on and off a roof).

   If there is a gutter, then the gutter supports the ladder. Also, I like that the gutter is catching all of the small crap coming off the roof. It's a lot easier to clean it out of a gutter than off of the ground.

   Aluminum or galvanized? I don't know that it matters, but I lean to the aluminum (which Lowes sells for the same price as my lumberyard sells galvanized). It just seems like the galvanized is more likely to corrode.

   Presumably, the factory paint on these things prevents any problems with a galvanized gutter placed against an aluminum fascia???

   Rich Beckman

   Another day, another tool.

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   G80104 | Nov 22, 2002 04:32am | #6

   I would and do gutters before roofing . The drip edge on the roof and the gutters should be under the drip edge.  Ever see a gutter guy trying to slip a 40' section of gutter under the drip edge when their 3 stories up? Also an add safety feature for the roofers.