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   Piffin | Mar 19, 2008 04:39pm | #1

   You are on the right path of thought there.

   If this is a slick material like metal or slate that encourages snow to slide off, then you can use snow blocks or ice guards ( different names for them ) which are little flanges attached so as to stop massive amounts of the white stuff from sliding off all at once.

   Place the gutters just below the roof plane and they will catch most rain runoff and snowmelt, but a really heavy rain can overshoot it

    

    

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   frenchy | Mar 19, 2008 06:08pm | #2

   knapper.

     How steep? 

    If you go over to advanced search on the left there and enter 85891.1  you'll see the gutters on my 17/12 pitch roof and 27/12 pitch.. they are in the direct drip line and catch all the rain. 

    I live in Minnesota and we do get a lot of snow here..  24 inches in 24 hours isn't unheard of and yet my gutters are fine..

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   knapper | Mar 19, 2008 07:22pm | #3

   Your roof is very steep. I wont be back to the house until the weekend so I don't know the pitch but it looks close to yours. Did you install them below the roof plane? I have been there when it is raining and it looks like the water runs straight down from the drip edge. It has asphalt shingles but when I get there after a snow it has slid off the roof and piled up on the ground. Thanks

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   Piffin | Mar 19, 2008 07:23pm | #4

   You must have a funny definition of drip line. The way you explain that doesn't make sense. ALL gutters are installed in the drip line.
   He wanted to know how high on that drip line relative to the roof plane. 

    

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   frenchy | Mar 19, 2008 08:56pm | #6

   Piffin,

      OK in a heavy rain the rain off my roof lands smack in the center of the gutter..

     As you can see they are 1/2 round 6 inch gutters that are 3 inches deep..  Just eyeballin' things here (I don't want to bother measuring)  the far edge looks to be approximately 7-8 inches away from the edge of the shakes which is sitting right on top of copper drip edge. 

     On the high end if you drew a line along the roof line to the gutter you'd be about an inch or two short of the edge of the gutter.. at the low end it would be less, maybe as little as 3/4 of an inch.

    

    

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   Piffin | Mar 19, 2008 11:27pm | #8

   http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=85891.6you can pretty well see where that lands in this photo on the front corner With a pitch that steep, there isn't a whole lot of difference between drip line and plane, is there?

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   Riversong | Mar 19, 2008 07:24pm | #5

   I have a vacation home that is an A frame.

   And A-frame is a house that is all roof and no sidewalls.  Gutters not required.

    

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   Piffin | Mar 19, 2008 11:22pm | #7

   Two things obvious hereOne, the guy wants guttersTwo, you are not familiar with all types of A-frame homes 

    

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   frenchy | Mar 19, 2008 11:27pm | #9

   pIFFIN,

    Not to pick nit's  (oops look at who I'm talking to) <grin>

      But A frames go all the way to the ground. modified A frames stop short of the ground..

     I suspect he's got a modified A frame..

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   Piffin | Mar 19, 2008 11:29pm | #10

   'snot my house. Riversong is the one picking nits with the guy. 

    

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   knapper | Mar 20, 2008 03:09pm | #11

   No its a real A frame that goes all the way to the ground. On one side half of it goes straight up and that is not a problem to figure out. Just because an A frame goes all the way to the ground does not mean you don't need gutters. I'm trying to keep the water away from the foundation. I think keeping the top outside edge of the gutter one inch down from the roof plane( Straight edge laid on top of shingles hanging over gutters) should let the ice slide over the top of gutters instead of landing in the gutter and ripping it off the house.

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   theslateman | Mar 20, 2008 03:13pm | #12

   Shouldn't need any ladders for the install then !!