Will this work??
Want to install 3/4″ thick 3 1/4″ wide pre-finished oak t&g floor boards over carpeted floor. Why??
Because: carpet glued down 100% and can’t have “ANY” dust what so ever when removing.
Buttt: carpet has NO padding and is relatively thin. Appears to be commercial grade. Around 10 years old and no wear spots. It is on top of 3/4″ plywood.
any suggestions out there?
Thanks much,
bobby t
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Suggestions?
My first reaction is - no way, no how, not in a billion years. What happens if the carpet gets wet? Nice space for all kinds of mold and rot to develop.
Why no dust? Some kind of cleanroom or hospital environment?
I'd refuse the job unless you could take up that carpet.
What Jon said. Too many reasons for it to fail.
I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.
Hey you smart ones, Thanks a-lot. Yes, I guess I knew the answer but was kinda hoping fer some easy alternative.
Why no dust? Because this is a recording studio with lots of xpensive quipment and he does not want dust. (but yes does want it done right) Me too.
Thanks for all the input and I will follow the advise.
Cheers, Bobby T
ugh- bugs- dust mites- lice-
anyway to saw through carpet and ply subfloor and pry out the whole deal, then replace subfloor?
Tell him the only way to do this is to cut out the joist sytem from below and remove the carpet as a whole. Ok not really tent it an filter as said before. You could do a laminate type floating floor but I would still say NO, too much flex.
Bobby
How about gypcrete over the carpet to sorta entomb it?
I just wonder how self-leveling it would be, though.
BruceM
I don't know nuttin', but I'd be running screaming from this one. I would suspect it would squeak- soft stuff underneath something nailed/stapled and subjected to repeated compressive loading is generally a no-no. Laminate perhaps, but hardwood? If it doesn't squeak right off the bat, it may later. Murphy says it'll squeak soon enough for this job to turn around and bite you in the hind end at some point. Unless you like that, I'd imagine that walking would be preferable on this one.
Just my two cents- you should of course discount that by 50% because I don't know nuttin'!
Because: carpet glued down 100% and can't have "ANY" dust what so ever when removing.
why?
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Bobby, there are other ways to handle dust than to ruin perfectly good hardwood flooring. Tell us more about the situation and let's figure out a real solution. The idea you have so far is goofy, but then so are some of us.
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Hardwood over carpet is a disaster waiting to happen. If you ever have a problem with it, forget about your warranty. This is what is called a "improper installation" and will void your warranty the moment you put the floor in.
What ever you do, you should forget this idea...
Not even if another subfloor is screwed on top first???
Just asking...ciao for niao
To those who know - this may be obvious. To those who don't - I hope I've helped.
>> Not even if another subfloor is screwed on top first?LOL!Pour self leveling compound over the carpet first. Then the new subfloor. Then the finish floor.
Whaddaya call that- "fibre-reinforced self-leveling compound"? You've just invented a new spec! LOL!
glad to have added a bit of humour to your life - especially with Molten's input! Just as well I didn't ask if he could shave the fibres off the backing...ciao for niao
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The "no dust" thing is kind of baffling.....Personally, I hate carpet; I guess I've yanked enough of it out over the years and seen the filth underneath, even in very clean homes, that I see it as a medium for dust and mold and smells, ad nauseum.
Putting a wood floor over it, even if it was feasable, would be sandwiching who knows what between subfloor and finish floor to slowly work its way upward as the wood floor flexes under traffic over the years.
To remove the old carpet without contaminating the rest of the house can be done by carefully tenting off the entire space with plastic, taping the seams and employing a HEPA filter to capture the airborne particulate....just like doing asbestos removal....do a google search for Asbestos removal methods for starters....same principles apply.
You knew the answer to this one before you asked the question, right?
Every objection so far is spot-on.
I agree with Piffin, there may be a way to put a wood floor there.
I agree that asbestos-removal methods would be good to copy, if the carpet is going to be removed.
I think putting the floor directly over the carpet is business/ trade suicide.
I think that if the carpet is not going to be removed, it must be dealt with.
Floor leveler into the carpet might be the way to go.
But I question that: Back in June, I put water-based leveler on an OSB substrate to support a floating floor. Bad move. The OSB was early 80's vintage, not the near waterproof stuff we have now. The OSB swelled where I put leveler. It did settle once the water evaporated, but I ended up using a pretty heavy oil based sealer over the floor (I had done a "test patch", aka a first batch of leveler in the worst dip.) and then did the rest of my leveler. You'll need to do a test patch to find out if your carpet substrate will handle leveler without distortion. If it will, it might be your best solution. (I hate to say that, because my initial reaction was "That's just not right. Carpet has to come up.".)
So, 1) What will the substrate do in reaction to leveler? 2) What happens to all those happy little dust mites? If leveler fills every hollow in that carpet and kills every single one of those little buggers, good. 3) What does the flooring manufacturer say about the various options?
There is a product called Fast Strip ( I think? ) mixes with water, cut carpet into 2' - 3' strips this saves on the back, soak carpet with product it softens the adhesive and keeps the dust under control, pull strips, scrape down floor of residue, and let it dry.
Flooring installers supply houses should be able to hook you up.
GUNN,
thanks alot. I'll look into this.
Bobby