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Harvesting slate

theslateman | Posted in Photo Gallery on September 5, 2009 11:49am

Got called to re shingle this slate roof with architecturals .

The slates will be salvaged for repairs to other homes in my area .

Got my set up done today , I’ll have a helper for the next two days to strip , paper and Grace the old board deck , then lay the new shingles .

My best man is in the second picture !!

 

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  1. mikeroop | Sep 06, 2009 12:38am | #1

    your best man looks like my best man

    he must of left me

    1. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 01:05am | #2

      His name is Reiman Georger .  Works hard , never complains , always on time , doesn't eat much or ask for advance money before the weeks out !!

      Sure makes a hard job easy .

      Walter

      1. bk24 | Sep 06, 2009 01:13am | #3

        Walter-

             How do you determine what slates get pitched and what ones get saved?  I've heard that the sound it makes when you tap on it is one way.  Can you flip the slates over when reinstalling them?  Also, do you keep any of the cut slates in the valleys, or do all of those just get chucked? 

        1. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 01:20am | #4

          During the removal and hauling phase I'll send down all full slates , starters , valley slates , etc .

          Badly broken , heavily tarred up , or obvious #### will be culled now and landfilled .

          I won't sound or otherwise sort the others now , but will wait until I need to reuse some of these on another venture . My object is to remove and reshingle now , and sort and qualify the slates when there is more time .

          Since I do a lot of valley repairs I will try and use those angles to advantage instead of cutting a sq. one on other roofs .

          1. bk24 | Sep 06, 2009 01:24am | #5

            Thanks for the response.  Hope the job goes well.

          2. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 01:30am | #7

            I forgot to answer your other question about turning them over .

            Slate from the quarry has a front and backside  -- the front has a chamferred edge from being cut , and the back is straight out to the edge . So to turn them over one would have to recut them to achieve that front chamfer .

          3. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 01:27am | #6

            I forgot to add these earlier .

            The third picture illustrates how I make my ladders more of a challenge to climb / and /or steal when left overnite .

             

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          4. Piffin | Sep 06, 2009 03:36pm | #10

            A ladder with a jack and plank on it is pretty tricky to walk off with easy! LOLis this in Belfast again? 

             

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          5. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 11:56pm | #12

            Paul ,

            Fern St . in Bangor . More concerned with making climbing the ladders a little tougher . I do lock up the hoist motor to the base ladder to keep people honest .

            I think Hazlett takes his down every nite -- something I'm unwilling to consider on most jobs .

            Walter

      2. mike585 | Sep 06, 2009 02:03am | #8

        Popular with women. Never has trouble getting it up.

        1. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 02:16am | #9

          Me or him ??!!

  2. danski0224 | Sep 06, 2009 03:57pm | #11

    Why is the slate being pulled off instead of spot repairs?

    1. theslateman | Sep 06, 2009 11:58pm | #13

      The repairs would have equalled the cost of this 30 year shingle roof .

      The zinc valleys were toast , vent stack deceased ,gutters rotted off .

      It was time to redo it -- besides I wanted a few more squares of slate  <G>

      1. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 12:22am | #14

        Some pictures of todays work of stripping off the slate , lowering and loading it up , then reshingling the prepped deck .

         

         

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        1. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 12:25am | #15

          A few more from todays efforts .

           

           

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          1. Piffin | Sep 07, 2009 12:51am | #16

            Don't get to see a valley that worn very often. 

             

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          2. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 12:58am | #17

            Zinc and aluminum are poor choices for valley metal . This house just changed hands  -- a 4 unit building , so preserving the slate wasn't deemed necessary here .

            I'll be repairing and flashing the chimney on the South side though . Straight pitch without any valleys there .

          3. stevent1 | Sep 07, 2009 01:36am | #18

            Walter,Looks good. Do you ever slow down? Are you working on Labout Day?Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

          4. Piffin | Sep 07, 2009 01:50am | #19

            The first half of the summer up here it rained every day to slow him down a bit. I think he is making up for lost time. 

             

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          5. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 01:55am | #20

            Chuck ,

            There will be plenty of days this Winter when the weather won't be conducive to roofing in the great State of Maine .

            I need to be back in Blue Hill on Tues. working on the copper eyebrows -- so tomorrow is just another Monday to me .

            I'll just about finish this backside tomorrow -- leaving just some slate repairs and a chimney to flash into the roof on the front side .

            Hope you get a quieter Labor Day holiday .

            Best ,  Walter

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          FatRoman | Sep 07, 2009 02:01am | #21

          Walter,

          What kind of inventory of used slate do you keep? Is it just used for repair, or is there a secondary slate market that you can resell to? And, if you can stand another question, how difficult is it to match up one of your stockpiled slates to a client's? Not sure if there are 6 basic colors, or 600 varieties.

          Your ladder rung here has an insert that reminds me of the great coat of arms from the Isle of Man.

          Keep up the good work and thanks for keeping us enlightened.

          Best,

          Steve

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          1. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 02:11am | #22

            Steve ,

            I don't really know how many sq's of slate I have , but I usually have the right size for most any repairs I need to complete . I'm sure I'll never be able to exhaust my supplies during my working career .

            I'm fortunate that most of our slate around here comes from just " up the road a piece "  Monson and Brownville quarried exceptional slate for roofing , mostly a grey/ black or blue / black . So color matching is easy for me .

            The size thingy is more crucial . Slates go from 6" wide to 16" wide , and from 9" long to 26" . I can usually find the same size , but at times I might have to cut some down .

            There is an active salvage market for good slates , but I don't sell any . I like having them around .

            Best ,Walter

          2. theslateman | Sep 07, 2009 02:12am | #23

            Steve ,

            Love that Isle of Man 3 legged logo .

            Walter

          3. theslateman | Sep 09, 2009 01:45am | #24

            When the zinc valleys wore thru on the backside of the dormer they took some galv . and screwed it in place  -- without removing the slate or zinc .

            A little black magic on the sides and voila -- end of leakage !!!

             

             

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          4. seeyou | Sep 09, 2009 02:10am | #25

            So did you and RG get this one shingled over the long weekend?copper p0rn

          5. theslateman | Sep 09, 2009 02:13am | #26

            Didn't quite make it . Heading back in the morning to shingle in that back valley -- Stiletto style !!

            Gotta take RG and some pipe stagings down and rake and magnet the premises .

            The slates all home though <G>

             

          6. stevent1 | Sep 09, 2009 03:24am | #27

            Walter,I worked Monday as well. I get it while I can.Can Archi's be used on a Stiletto (no cut) valley?Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

          7. mikeroop | Sep 09, 2009 05:01am | #28

            Can Archi's be used on a Stiletto (no cut) valley?

            that's the only way I've ever seen it.

          8. theslateman | Sep 09, 2009 12:17pm | #29

            Chuck ,

            I normally use metal for valleys , but this is my very first Stilletto valley !

            Sorry to hear you had to work on the Holiday too , but like you said take it while it's there .

            Best ,  Walter

             

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          9. theslateman | Sep 10, 2009 02:15am | #30

            Heres the results of the harvest !!

             

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            Sphere | Sep 10, 2009 02:30am | #31

            Better cover them, I'd hate to see them get wet.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

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          11. theslateman | Sep 10, 2009 12:06pm | #34

            Why  -- I'm speechless !

          12. mikeroop | Sep 10, 2009 06:04am | #32

            I have about that many new ones on a skid whats it worth?

          13. theslateman | Sep 10, 2009 12:09pm | #35

            Mike ,

            Depends on size and where quarried !  And most importantly what someone is willing to pay , since it won't be enough to slate a very large roof , but will need to be matched or used for repairs .

            Walter

          14. mikeroop | Sep 11, 2009 04:14am | #38

            are you taking up politics? ( with that answer) :)~

          15. theslateman | Sep 11, 2009 12:07pm | #39

            Mike ,

            Not at all . Different quarries produce varying grades of stone for roofing .

            If it comes from a good quarry and of a larger size  -- 10" wide or up then it has more value than some 7" wide slate from Penn .

            If you stated the sizes and where it was from I would be more helpful .

            Walter

          16. mikeroop | Sep 12, 2009 12:49am | #42

            they are all 10" wide and I believe they said they were from vermont.

            left over from a big job and the roofing supply store took them back and gave them to me a couple years later along with a bunch of misc. stuff I bought really cheap. :)

            not trying to pin you down but I've no use for them (Thought i did at the time) and have been thinking of trying to unload them.

          17. theslateman | Sep 12, 2009 12:58am | #43

            Put them on Craigs list for $ 350 a sq . and see if you get any interest .

          18. USAnigel | Sep 10, 2009 06:47am | #33

            You did good! Last slate removal I did blew away in little dust clouds it was so past its prime! I had patched it the year before and used screws to install because the slightest hammer blow dislodged a few more slates!

          19. theslateman | Sep 10, 2009 12:10pm | #36

            It must have been Penn . slate which is quite soft .

          20. USAnigel | Sep 10, 2009 01:51pm | #37

            I think it was, Roof was from the 1920s in Philadelphia. i took very little to the dump from a large roof. I saved the pieces I screwed on.

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    jonblakemore | Sep 11, 2009 11:20pm | #40

    Do you ever take on jobs at a reduced rate to get the salvaged slate, or do you just consider the spoils of a removal job like this your good fortune?

     

    Jon Blakemore

    RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA

    1. theslateman | Sep 12, 2009 12:36am | #41

      Jon,

      I do knock some off the price , but certainly not as much as the salvage value of the slate .

      Walter

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