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   phil_eves | Dec 22, 2001 06:49pm | #1

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   ...the design wasn't "borrowed", was it?.....copyright?.....

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   Gene_Davis_ | Dec 23, 2001 04:02am | #2

   *Nope, not "borrowed," but "paid for." The plans are for sale, and I bought a set.

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   phil_eves | Dec 23, 2001 04:31am | #3

   *..nothing meant or inferred, but it raises a question....Is a plan or article public domain if it has no disclaimer or copyright stated? Wondering......

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   rmanbike | Dec 23, 2001 08:04am | #4

   *If I am correct here you can take any plan and build a house, where you get into trouble is taking that same plan selling it to other builders as your own design. JMHO, Roger

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   George_Roberts | Dec 25, 2001 03:25am | #5

   *I believe that you are obligated to own a set of plans to build a house (for yourself or another) designed by another.The rub comes in in determining how much change makes a house as built different from a plan as drawn.

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   Chester_ | Dec 26, 2001 04:27am | #6

   *I like the way she finishes small attic spaces into fun rooms, but we can't do that here. We need to have a mimimum room height of 5', and half the room needs be above 7'6". How does she get away wiht it? A different interpretation of the code?http://www.ci.nampa.id.us/pdf/ceiling_height_bonus_room.pdf

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   Dave_Riggs | Dec 26, 2001 05:22am | #7

   *I have always wanted to live in a copy of the Rietveld/Shroder-Schrader house in Holland. Very modern.

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   darrel1 | Dec 27, 2001 12:21am | #8

   *i Is a plan or article public domain if it has no disclaimer or copyright stated?The converse is true. It is only public domain if it explicitly states that and/or the work in question has an expired copyright (which, I believe, expires 70 years after the authors death).Otherwise, ANY piece of original work (drawing, writing, photograph, music, etc.) is copyrighted by default. Stating the copyright is not necessary for protection (but, of course, it doesn't hurt to remind people).

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   Roger_Martini | Dec 28, 2001 12:16am | #9

   *As an owner of an 1,100 square foot house, I am always bemused at 2,440 sq/ft being considered "not so big". I don't know anybody with a house that large, unless you count finished basements. Can someone working with houses that size really have street cred as building "not so big"? Don't get me wrong--I would love to live in a 2,400 sq/ft house, but it would be "really big" to me.Am I hopelessly out of touch, or is everyone else just that much richer than I am?

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   Dave_Riggs | Dec 28, 2001 03:00am | #10

   *I live in a 2200 foot. But it is a split level and I converted the lower level to a mother in law apt. of about 800' with full kitchen washer dryer 3/4 bath. We live in the rest. My wife and I would not know what to do with that space. The extra income from the rental pays for about 1/2 the mortagage. And pays for finer homebuilding in the hideous 70's upstairs.

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   Bill_Hartmann | Dec 28, 2001 04:21pm | #11

   *RodgerYou have not been reading the other threads like the one on the 100,000 sq ft log home.George and Rmanbikei The rub comes in in determining how much change makes a house as built different from a plan as drawn. i If I am correct here you can take any plan and build a house, where you get into trouble is taking that same plan selling it to other builders as your own design. Copyright includes all derivations. That includes the building of a house from the plans. No alternation of a set of copyright plans separate it from the orginal copyright. But it be covered by the orginal copyright and one for your changes.Off course you might have been "inspired" by the orginal plans, but developed yours without using the first set.

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   George_Roberts | Dec 29, 2001 07:37pm | #12

   *Bill ---Copyrights of designs are very difficult and expensive to defend in court. As a practical matter an action will only be taken if a whole subdivision of identical homes is infringing.Copyrights of plans are a bit different. Derivatives of plans may be proteced but the copyright only covers the plans as plans not as resulting houses.Often the cost of defending a copyright is exceded by the benefits.

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   Cloud_Hidden | Dec 29, 2001 09:43pm | #13

   *Don't forget the PS.PS. Of course, being able to get away with copying a plan doesn't make it right. :)

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    Tim_Thompson | Dec 31, 2001 01:02pm | #14

    *Gene, Here on the coast of Georgia, everyone is trying to build 3,000 sq. ft. or more. Right now property values are rising so fast that very few people are building to keep, they are staying in a house 3-5 yrs. and then building something bigger. On the other hand I have been working on a desing for a 1,500 to 1,800 sq. ft. home for my family and I to actually live in. We are trying to find a location to build on that will give us enough room to also have a shop building for our business.

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    ed_hardwicke | Jan 16, 2002 01:26am | #15

    *Same for coast of SouthCarolina 3000 ft2 - 4000 ft2 are common. And they usually sell to a couple 'with no kids"you figure it out.to me for two people, 2000- 2500 is about right.