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I bought one Friday for the cabinet installer.
I had loaned him the fein that morning and he loved it so when I did my daily run to Lowes I swung across the street and got one.
Those blades are wimpy compared to the ones I get online and won't fit in the new Fein.
But having a throwaway version at 10% of the cost of mine has its appeal.
Anyway cabinet guy loves it and can't get over the fact that I would spend 40$ on him.
And I can't get over how cheap it cost me to get that look of disbelief on the old codger.
ANDYSZ2
WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST
cheap it cost me to get that look of disbelief on the old codger
Definition of 'old codger' please, was that my 80 YO uncle? <G>
BTW, I'm holding out till HF has a $8.99 special on the MM clone, the 4" angle grinder are about the same mfg cost in China, and they go for as low as $6.99 at times.
At least in his mid 60's with white beard and hair and cabinet installers attitude.
You have to be around this guy to appreciate the personna.
ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST
I've got the HF Multimaster and we used it last week to scrape painted texture off the ceiling
Worked pretty good
BTW, if you buy the HF Router speed controller ($20), you can have an infinitly variable speed control similar to the Fein.
Tu stultus esRebuilding my home in Cypress, CAAlso a CRX fanatic!
Look, just send me to my drawer. This whole talking-to-you thing is like double punishment.
Sweet - I have never heard thatthanks
I bought one recently and figured the saw would come in handy sometime. I got to use it last week and it exceeded my expectations by a lot. It worked great for cutting rectangular holes in 3/4" redwood paneling and siding to add electrical boxes. It made short work of cutting out a damaged section of t&g and the scraper (I had assumed would be worthless did a great job of removing some old roofing tar globbed up on some exterior siding).My only complaint was that the store only had replacement blades in a combo pack of two scrapers and one blade in stock. I plan on going through more blades than scrapers so I need to mail order some blades from them.I couldn't ever justify spending over a hundred dollars on a type of saw that I will use this infrequently but I give this one thumbs up at 39 dollars.Karl
Thanks hadn't thought about using it for thatI will be using mine tomorrow to trim spray foam around a windowI would like to have a tool bag to carry mine in and I need to go to Goodwill to buy a bag with a zipper to carry it inI;ve seen them at Goodwill - they are the bag that says "adidas" on the side and they were sold for sports equipI will use it to keep the tool and extra blades
I bought several of these when they were on sale for $5.99. They're actually pretty well made, and after all, it only seems fitting to store a HF multimaster in a HF tool bag. I keep my Fein in one.
Hey I like that
Yesterday I went to the local HF to look at their clone. What I found were three incomplete display models, none in stock, and no accessories or blades.
It looks like they're hot sellers.
NOW ... what I'd really like to hear are some first-hand comparisons of the HF (and other clones) vs. the Fein. Just how much 'better' is the tool that costs 10x as much?
A review I read, stated the only significant difference was the original had variable speed. That can be fixed by buying a seperate variable speed made for a router.
My local store now has about 25 in stock, with , finally plenty of blades. All can be bought individually. Buy several as they don't last all that long.
My personal fealing is it is actually a pretty nice tool. It isthe reason, I have bought several tools from them for occasional use.
I understand their tile saw is a pretty good tool. On sale next weekend for $119.
The word from the local manager is that the tools are getting better as they are seeing fewer and fewer returns of any of their tools.
One thing I like is their hand tools carry a lifetime guarentee!!!! Looks like they are using the old Sears model of no hasstle returns on them!!!
Any tool with a warranty is worth the money, even if it isn't such a great tool. I bought a pack of chisels thinking that they would be throw aways about a year ago. Some of them have seen heavy use, the 1/2" stays in my tool pouch on the weekends, and other than occasional sharpening, still going strong.
I swore I'd never by another air tool after my compressor blew up after only several months. I got an email from them for a cap stapler for $70 and bought it for an upcoming roofing job. It's lasted three jobs (little jobs, spaced apart). I baby it and it skips, but at $70 I can buy another two at the cost of a Bostitch. I don't do this everday, and if I did, I'd buy the Bostitch without thinking twice, but for me, the HF stuff is there in a pinch. Now if only they would build the tools here, and not China!
Now if only they would build the tools here, and not China>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck with that. It appears al the tools are made in China now, or soon will be!
I do think your on to something. The quality does seem to be a little better.
Have you seen any feedback on the Bosch or Dremel Multimasters?
The Bosch is a good machine, limitation being the battery life.
The dremel, overheating in repetitive use.
used my HF multimaster again today... was installing electric deadbolt releases / latches in my doors for the access control system... i trimmed down a cutting blade so that it's about 3/4" wide... I've been use'n it to cut around strike plates... screw em into place... cut around em... remove strike plate .... then proceed as normal... pretty easy to control how deep you are cutting... anyway it works for me...I see now why people bragged about the Fein... I'm amazed at the time the HF tool saves mep
I see now why people bragged about the Fein... I'm amazed at the time the HF tool saves me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I will second that. Never could bring myself to pull the trigger for $300. But I will tell you, if my HF model burned out, I would be down there tomorrow buying another.
Have you seen the battery operated one yet? I really think I might buy one of them!
I have vinyl siding on lowe half of my home. Put a deck and patio in this summer. It worked great for cutting the vinyl. Saved my carpel tunnel with the snips!!
Harbor Freight has a cordless multifunction tool?
I haven't seen it. If you find any more info about it, please post it.
All in all, I've been pretty happy with my HF purchases.
It's even LiIon, and I think it cost $79. Haven't seen one in the store yet though.
Tu stultus esRebuilding my home in Cypress, CAAlso a CRX fanatic!
Look, just send me to my drawer. This whole talking-to-you thing is like double punishment.
On line only. I think it is 59.95
I'm looking at buying a nail gun for doing framingHere is what they're selling for $89http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=98917I would be using it one or two days a month doing some kind of minor framing such as framing in a closet thanks for any input
Now is a very good time to buy one on Ebay.I recently bought a HITACHI NR83A2s, lightly used, for $96.00 shipped. One of the best framing nailers there is.Why buy cheap junk?View Image
Wow you got a great dealI'll check ebayThanks
I ran an ad on CL yesterday saying I want to buy a used framing nailerI got two responsesOne response was "Husky framing nailer for $50"The second response was "slightly used ridgid for $100"I'm leaning toward the ridgid - it sold new for about $229 at HD
The only proble is the 28 degree nails. They are a little hard for me to come by. Same nails as my part time craftsman, in fact they look identical.
Take your chances. If it doesn't work, take it back. Save your reciept!
"Never could bring myself to pull the trigger for $300. "I hear you there. I got mine online, I forget where, but it was reconditioned with a full guarantee and it was the old model Fein so it all the other brand blades fit it.I think I paid $175, which hurt, but not as much as 3 bills.
I don't regret it a bit. The Fein really performs.
My partner bought a Dremel multimaster. I’ve used the Fien... and the Dremel knockoff doesn’t hold a candle to it. It has, give or take, the same power draw for the motor... but it overheats with extended use. And, for reasons that I don’t understand, it has to work a lot harder to do the same amount of work.
But the real killer for the Dremel is that the trigger gave up, without a sigh, after about 5 hours of hard use.
The Fein oscillating multimaster tool patent is history. But it looks like no other manufacturer has been able to step up and build a viable alternative at a reduced cost even though they saw it coming a long time ago.
FYI: the Bosch blades fit the HF, and are much better quality.
Thanks I was wonder ing that. I got a HF mm for tight spots.Webby
I suggest you go to harbor freight and spend $35 dollars. It is equal to the MM except for the variable speed. I really mean it. I am not kidding! (blades are cheap also)
Folks keep mentioning the variable speed of the Fein ....
I've been using a Fein that does NOT have variable speed. Maybe it's an older model, I don't know; but for my use - cutting holes in drywall - it doesn't matter.
The unit is simply great; great control with little airborne dust. If I need to make a slight adjustment to my hole, no problem. If the rock is weak, patched, or poorly supported - no problem.
I've been using a Fein that does NOT have variable speed.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is from a review I read. Must be their latest and greatest. I know I lovew my HF, and at $35, if it breaks, go get another. Works as well as the fein from the reviews, I'm happy!!!
Ok, I've had my Fein for .............I'd have to ask my supplier. Not 10 yrs, maybe 8. I use it constantly and have not babied it. It has needed a couple of the mounting screws and one sanding pad. I didn't pay 300.
If I go to the box in the van, I know it will run.
There's some value to satisfaction and stamina.
With the new offers on the market I think I would still make the same purchase.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
That's fine. If I was using it everyday, I would probably do the same.
For people that don't, there are some credible copies on the market!
Dave
Don't get the wrong idea. I like the way it's there when I need it. No bogus switch, no shot cord, consistent reliance.
And I do acknowledge the use v. price.
The only thing I have regrets about and I'm a little to blame-it's popularity. Should have kept my mouth shut, then the rare few could make magic.
Damn, the local pub was nice tonight. Those of you passing Maumee, Oh............stop by the Village Idiot late Fri. aftn. A great place to take a break.
There I go again. Place is getting too crowded as it is. On second thought, stay home.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
I consider the $220 that I spent on my old style MM (mod. 636?) some of the most well spent of my tool money. I also would buy the same machine again in a heartbeat.Variable speed (to slow DOWN the speed) on the oscillating tools is really useful in burn-prone operations like sanding and scraping, and can help to control a cut. Note that I really have great cut control with my Fein even at full speed!View Image
Ken, luvditchburns turned me on to it. Been a happy guy ever since. The only thing it lacks is your own imagination.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
I saw a commercial for one of the knock-offs the other day, and I just don't get it. I didn't see what that tool could do better than other tools I own that can do it better.
Granted, I'm sure it beats carrying all of those tools, but I don't like to play around. I want the best tool for the job, not an OK tool for every job. Somebody, please, tell me why I've just got to have one!
I appreciate your lack of enthusiasm.
The tool isn't really essential - but for a few select tasks, it does them better than anything else.
Take my use as an example. I often have to instal an electrical box in a finished wall, and the job site is quite often a furnished, occupied office.
Sure, I can make the hole using a keyhole saw, but that's slow, and nearly impossible if the wall is anything but sheetrock.
I could use a saber saw, but the show marks up the wall, and dust flies everywhere. Roto-zip has the same issue.
With the multi-master, I get a neat hole quickly, and do it without filling the air with dust. There's even less dust than when I cut by hand!
Taking another example - I need to make a larger hole in a wall. If I can cut from the middle of a stud to the middle of a stud, I can use the removed piece to patch the hole, and it will be well supported. Hwo do you make that cut?
A circular saw - talk about filling the air with dust! Ditto the Roto-zip. Saber saw is great for the field, but can't cut atop the stud. Hand saw has the same issues.
Not the Multi-master, You can go right down that stud face, zip across the field - then hook the piece and pull it out. Want to make the cut at an inside corner? The multi can reach in there.
So, while the Multi-master is not essential - and most certainly will not replace any tool - it is a handy addition to the truck.
You're right to a degree. Other tools can do the job, but better?......mmmm, maybe in some instances, but I would have to disagree there.
I'm not sure what line you're in but I do a ton of repair, restoration, & retro-fits, also a lot of cabinet installs. The MM is indispensable for all that.What it is really great at is getting into difficult places and making clean straight cuts. It also switches heads to sand in tiny corners & nooks, and it also has a head for removing grout & mortar.
Do I absolutely need it? No.Would I ever be without it now? No way.
I will no longer encourage the effectiveness of the Multimaster. Too damn many people have it now and can perform the magic.
Keep using whatever you have and don't bother spending the money
thanks.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
"tell me why I've just got to have one!"
Flush cutting. Say you need to take out 4 ft of baseboard over a hardwood floor to install a heater. Lots of things you used to use chisels for are much easier with a mm.
Exactly. It's like an electric chisel.View Image
couldn't agree more.
Earlier this year, I was installing 2 walkin closets and a storage space. Client wanted it in an existing built-out attic with carpet. They wanted the carpet to remain. so I had to lay out walls and cut the carpet out for the bottom plates. I had the MM but did not realize that I could have done all the cutting with it. I cut everything by hand and took forever to do it, at that. I am just finishing a staircase where I had to cut back carpet to get to trim in hallway. Took just seconds with the MM. I used it for two or three other functions, as well, on that job. It now goes everywhere on every job, period.
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I was browsing the aisles of Harbor Freight just yesterday in fact because I wanted to see about a tile saw. I saw their version of MM and it actually looked & felt pretty damned good. I'm sorry now that I didn't pick up any of the blades, but I will.
I ended up buying about $35 of just small stuff that would otherwise cost me a lot more.
It's a tempting place that store and I'm just glad it's over the river in Jersey so it's more of a trip.
I have purchased a number of things at HF and found many of them to be fine. I do admit that I've had to return some items in order to obtain one that works correctly, but there has never been a difficulty when I went to return an item. Two months ago I purchased the dust collector for $139 plus tax and added a Wynn filter and a baffel. It works very well. However, my neighbor, upon seeing my dust collector went a bought one, two days after I bought mine, same store, and he had to return it and get a new one because the first one would trip the 20 amp breaker every time. The start circuit had problems. The second one is fine. I'll start looking at their multimaster after reading these posts.
Another testimonial for the MM: grout removal.With the dedicated carbide blade, I've done an entire kitchen floor of 12x12 tiles. It was so easy and pleasant that I was disappointed when I was done and was ready for more.I can't think of ANY tool that will do this better.View Image
Do the HF blades fit the old MM? I saw the HF knockoff yesterday. It's clunkier, in a wider and taller way, than the MM. The blades looked a little weak, and the 3 pack had 2 scraper blades... how many of them do you need?!? They did have a round diamond blade for 10 bucks... if it fits the MM, looks like the cat's rear for cleaning grout/thinset.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
I second the grout removal blade. My Fein is about 8 yrs old and i can't tell you how many different jobs i have used it on, I think it cost me about $175 at the time. Just yesterday i had to remove about 4 tiles on a back splash and the carbide blade went thru the grout like buttah. i would like to have the new one with the quick change system but it's not that big of a deal.
Holly, from what I hear it does. However, for the Bosch blades to fit and hold you need the star washer and abrasive washer that allows pretty firm locking using the new fein blades in the old style saw.
So, if you have the washers I'm thinking it's worth a try.
If it works, buy another one of those diamond blades and send me one.
thanks.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Will do.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
That was too easy.
What's the catch?A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
I need a new walleye.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Whelp, there's the new Toledo Hockey Team about to start.
View ImageA Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Who's their endodontist?http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Beats me........
and also beats me what the heck an endo............ologist is?A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Went to Sears tonight and got a set of MM blades for wood and steel for 12$ .
Looks like they will fit on the new Fein MM as well.
ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST
$12 not bad... HF had the big round offset vs flat blade for $5.99I have actually had good service out of the HF blades...Have'n never even held the Fein tool I don't know how it compares to the HF tool... but I know there is no way I'd do without this tool once I've had it... jobs that use to require thought and planning and dread... now are a cakewalk... they become a "non issue" because with this tool you know instantly how you'll do it... the thought process is gone...p
My Dremel Multi- Max finally went and burnt it's self out. Not surprising given how hot runs, but a bummer none the less. Sunday, in the middle a project. So, the Bosch was the only
choice to be had. We will see...
Do you want to try a HF model? I have a 29.95 coupon.
Thanks, but I had to finish the project so I ran out and
blew $179.00 on the cordless Bosch. Not happy about it at all. Hey, who knows maybe it will work out.
Boy, getting dangerously close to the Original's cost.
Bummer.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
My thoughts exactly.
Well here's hoping you have better luck and more mileage with this one.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
cal, I had to rip some installed Hardi siding about 4" from the ground... didn't want to suck a lot of dust, so I went back to HF for the diamond blade.I picked up two of them, and two of their others. 6-8 bucks ea. On the way out they had the multi master well placed for an impulse buyer... got me. Figured I'd rather fill that up with concrete dust than the Fein.Cashier rang it up, knocked off 20%, then slipped in the 2yr insurance policy when I wasn't looking<G>The HF multi took forever to cut a scrap of Hardi. The diamond blade has a rim of diamond chunks, not like a tile blade. I put the blade on the Fein,and it worked a little better. Must be more travel in the ossilation?I did use the HF multi for some little cuts, Corey cut off door shims for a 1/2hr, then it quit... I hope my insurance rate doesn't go up, ha.I'm sending you the extra diamond blade LOLhttp://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Well now there's a review.
You used it instead of a grinder because of the mess or were you looking for control?
Tomorrow I get to cut the grout on some end cap glass block on a bath remodel in hopes that I can save the 8' colume of block. I'll have on hand the diamond blade from fein, their grout blades and in case of emergency-the diamond grinder wheel with a vac and fan.
I love the first day of a total gut.............
Hey, plenty of baseball on today/nite. Just home from 3man golf league and dig this-good play. Go figger.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Hey, how bout the Bulls??? International League Champs!Hopin' for a Bombers vs Phils series?!?http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Oh, I used the multis for cause I didn't want dust in my locks... the control was a nice bonus...http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Well then I guess I could pull out of the pile my Bulls cap I've had for several yrs. You don't want to be wearing that too much downtown Toledo, but I do take a chance now and then.
Whoa, the yanks are on a tear. They guy that cooked our Fish here for the fest and his son (who also cooked) are in the big city watching in person.
Bet they are having a time.
!A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
I hope it does for you. You ought to buy the HF for a back up in case! At $30 it is a cheap backup!
Forgot to mention, I will be in Cooperstown on sat.. Fly Creek and then to the Museum accrosss from the farmers museum.
Have to get my cider fix!!!!
It's funny but
I still like to drive all the way over to the Clinton
Cider Mill. My home town and all.
I've had such a jones for crisp apples and cider so far this Fall that I'm ready to head up Rte 12B!Keep us posted on how the Bosch works out.And if Clinton's your home town, should I ask about the real story behind the butterflies and Oriskany Falls? :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Not sure what you mean about the Butterflies?
Oh, there was a strange tale, told when I was at Colgate, about butterflies on homes being some sign of incest among the residents of Oriskany Falls.Apparently the tale has been around for a long, long time. Always assumed it was false, but just so odd that it might have been true at some point.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I've never heard that before. So, you know Hamilton NY. Lots of nice riding out that
way. I was more interested in Mnt. biking in those day's, so I'd
ride along the canal or ride on the Bridgewater trail network.
I have always liked that area. The hills are bit more rolling
then where I am now. you can squeeze more miles in out there.
I think it was just some spooky part of campus lore, but like I said, so cryptic that you half-believed there was some germ of truth to it. Kind of got the impression that it had been told since the 1930s or something.Spent 2 years in Hamilton for grad school. Absolutely spectacular setting, and I can bet it's beautiful for cycling. I was just running when I was there, and didn't get into triathlon until a year later.Miss that area terribly in the Fall. Something about the light at that time of year and the crisp air, that brings back fond memories. I do not miss the giant snowfall in April, however :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I do not miss the giant snowfall in April, however :)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now, Now, we don't have that every year!>G<
Yeah, now it's a month of rain in October.
Is it ever going to stop!
I have a neighbor That I promised to help jack his back porch, but now a days, can't stand the wet rain!
<can't stand the wet rain>
I'm with you. I prefer the dry rain.
prefer the dry rain.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I don't know about you, but when they predict wet rain I stay inside and watch that, there for, dry rain!>G<
It's really hard to stand in freezing rain.
Working?
Yeah, We are busy.
Very fortunate and thankful. Worked a double yesterday racing the rain, so today is a welcome
rest day.
I think we got that April snow both years I was there. Second year I missed watching my roomies play for the ECAC hockey title after some freak snowstorm left a few feet. In addition to the considerable snow already on the ground :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Shoot we only get 9' annually. You make it sound like it was all in aprol!
Nah, it's just all still on the ground in April :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I will give you the fact that you have to like snow if you live around here, but April!>G<
Yep, I drive to fly creek and pass you going to Clinton. That is funny.
I think the reason my wife likes fly creek is the Christmas store next door.
Just had breakfast at Danny's. It's going to be a beautiful drive for you this weekend!
I'm hoping no rain!
Do you want to try a HF model? I have a 29.95 coupon.
I want to try one. How can I get a coupon? Is there a secret club I need to join?
Buy or steal the coupon out of Pop. Mechanixs
So how's the Bosch working out for you? Using it to detail sand, or just cut?Trying to decide if that would do for my needs, or if I should just suck it up and get the Fein.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Suck it up. Plus it should last long enough that you can include it in your will, and pass it on to your daughter <G>
How is it as a sander? Got to thinking I could skip a separate detail sander if this does that well enough. (and thinking that a sander would be best left to the corded variety)Which makes the price not so unattractive anymore.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I wouldn't sand large areas with it, but for small jobs it works well. I don't have the profile accessories, so I don't know how well that works. But be careful about the speed- slower is better. The sand paper last longer, and the scratches from the sanding seems less pronounced.
I bought a detail sander awhile back, I think if you have a lot of sanding, I would go for the specialized tool.
Really, you ought to look at the HF version to at least start with. It is now 29.95. Talk about a throwaway tool!!
Dave,Thanks for the info. Got to admit that I'd feel a bit dirty at shopping at HF. Rather see my money spent here or Japan/Europe where there's at least a decent chance it's going towards keeping someone employed in a democratic-capitalistic society. Snow in the Chenango Valley yet?Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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He's in the MOHAWK valley! You know Barge canal,FX Matts,Lake effect snow, and of course- http://www.uticazoo.org/about/index.cfm?play=1
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DOH!Thanks for the geographical head slap.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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...And the catchy song!
Snow in the Chenango Valley yet?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don't know, heard there might have been.
In the Mohawk Valley, we haven't had any.
As far as fealing dirty, remember most tools are being made in China now, it does seem that HF has made a concerted effort to upgrade their tool line. I find it to be a good place to pick up throwaway tools and tools I won't be using much.
I haven't sanded with it yet. It cuts well thou. So far it has only had rough service with
me. Long cuts through two layers of parquet flooring and
some of the thickest Greek crown I've come across.
Oh yeah, a bunch of drywall cut outs (one of my favorite uses). It does the job and the blades are good quality (plus it will
take the Dremel and Fien blades too). Five minutes per charge, so it will have you running to the
charger if you have a project going on. Not sure I could recommend it over the Fien, but we do retrofit
type work constantly, perhaps most people would find it adequate.
I can't imagine five minutes of sanding
would get most jobs done.
Thanks a bunch. One more question for you.Since I see several people mentioning using these for drywall cutouts, do they blow a huge cloud of dust around like a rotozip? If not, I think I'm sold on getting one.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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No, the dust is very minimal. I use the half circle Dremel blade.
For cutting drywall, I use the drywall blades from Multiblades. Very little dust and long-lasting blade for $7.
Do you mean this one?-
http://multiblades.com/images/sd_sup.JPG I haven't tried that yet, thanks for the tip.PS
I find the half circle shape helpful when cutting
a long line.
Yup, that's the one. Just be sure to check the arbor hole configuration.
Ok, so that 'one more question' part wasn't accurate, LOLYou were messing about with some rigid foam, IIRC. Did you try cutting that with the MM?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Nope. Just get one already! If you keep this up I'll tell Frammer52 you need a coupon.
LOL, OK, OK. I put it at the top of my birthday list. Let's see if I've been a good boy this year!'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I'll agree: very little dust in the air. Instead, the dust seems to be larger particles, that either just sit atop the blade, or fall to the floor.
I'm using a borrowed Fein, with a limited blade assortment. The nearly round carbide grit blade workes quite well on drywall; perhaps a toothed one would work even better.
Thanks. I've already dreamed up a couple of dozen uses for it, but the sanding and dust-reduced drywall cutting seal it.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Maybe we could convince Fein to sell MM franchises, with protected areas of use.
You take Ohio, I'll get Jersey.
We'll split Pennsylvania. Its a big state>
With the infomercials and all, anybody can be the man.
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It's amazing that this is probably the only infomercial product that actually lives up to the hype, and the ONLY 'as seen on TV' product that I have ever purchased.View Image
and long before it got to the infomercial spotlight..
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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
So whats the final verdict on this one - waste of money or not?
Depends on who you ask. My money is still on the Fein. For the basic tool, $200 or a little less can't be beat for a tool that will last through A LOT of use.If you are an occasional user, it seems that folks like the HF version fine, so far.View Image
Danno, you ask
"So whats the final verdict on this one - waste of money or not?"Not in any way a waste of money. I sat on the fence looking at these tools by various makers for a year. I saw it for 30 bucks at harbor freight and figured I would give it a try and return it if I didn't like it.There is no way I will be returning it. The thing is awesome at doing all the stuff described. I will likely only use it for jobs that used to require a chisel to get square cuts.Buy the cheap one and see if you use it. If you use it enough to wear it out then buy yourself a Fein. If you can't wear it out then you saved enough money to buy yourself an additional tool.What is the worst thing that is going to happen if you buy it?Karl
I bought a portable blower today at HFhttp://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93231Paid $54 for itSeems like it moves a lot of airHas variable speed switch
My stepson bought one of the vacumns for the lathe I bought. Nice and quiet. Portable, uses it instead of my heavy ridgid!
timely post ,,,was gonna buy it the other day when I went to buy the
$9.99 "dremmel" , But passed..Gonna be close next week so will get one...
Bud
DON'Y buy that 9.99 dremel. It is worse than krap.BUT... The more expensive one... Larger. Red body... Is better than the crafstman knockoff. At least as good as the real dremel, and possibly more powerful.That bigger, red one is worth buying. At about 18 dollars, it is still only about a quarter the price of the real dremel....You are always welcome at Quittintime
Yea, its not to great, I already bought it and passed on the MM. I am only gonna use it to cut cables for my bicycle, and it works ok for that.
I may pick up the red one when I go back and get the MM next week
Thanks for the tip..
Bud
I'm thinking real hard on getting the HF Multimaster, mostly due to its price. I've wanted the real deal for years, but couldn't justify it. And really, my biggest beef is not the cost of the tool but of the accessories, which didn't seem to last very long.
Question is, has anyone used all 3 of the Fein, Dremel, and HF to provide a comparison?
I don't really mind dropping the $400 to get a tool that will last a lifetime, but if the consumables are going to eat me alive it may not be worth it. Maybe a cheaper clone is better if the quality of alternative accessories is comparable.
Any thoughts from those that have used more of the models to compare?
As a matter of fact, I have the Fein, the Dremel, and the HF.The fein rocks, no doubt ( I have the "old style", before it was touted as a MM, just a snader with some blades that work) but the cost of blades was, WAS the killer.Then I made a few..eh, nothing special, Ilearned the LENGTH is tres important, to oscillate properly. And spinning was a problem, I lost the original screw sometime and am using the sander head screw with a cup washer.Then I gotthe Dremel just for kicks and aback up...I liked it, didn't use it hard, and keep it in the van all the time. Just Wed and today I was cutting rectangular gutter drops in 3/4" soffit, and box gutter bottom. Used the Dremel cuz it was unburied in the van. Absolutley NO complaints, and I was pushing it, smoking the 3/4" wide blade and cutting copper as well.A few weeks ago, I got the HF, in case the Dremel dies..only made a few cuts ( like cut out the panels of a masonite hollow door, for air flow) and was NOT impressed with the circ. blade..cheap steel, lotta paint, and dull.So today I was at HD, and found a disply ( hands on use) of the dremel, BUT they were low on blades, and I already know about the dremel blades..pretty good. But I saw the bosch blades, so I bought a 1" wide and a circ. ( the circ says wood/metal, I cut copper a lot) blade. As I went to install the blade on the Dremel , No joy..it won't fit. It WILL fit the OLD Fein, but I didn't install it yet on that or the HF...
What I'm saying is Dremel seems to take it's blades only.All are exactly what you'd expect for the price, the Drem is vari spd. but I use full tilt ahead all the time, the Fein is single spd ( that I have) and the HF is single.As an aside, in '89 when I got the fein, I was cutting duct boot holes in 3/4 sub floor and it just broke somethng inside, I sent it back and they sent a new one No questions asked, that was 7 corners Ace , before internet for me.
Thats all I got so far, I an't broke any of em yet, and have pushed hard.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Without a doubt sears is the place to buy blades a 2 pack of wood/metal bades is 13$ and they fit the new fein as well as the old style MM's.
I have bought the HF for my cabinet guy as he was elated when I loaned him the MM so when I went to lunch I swung by HF and picked him up one as a gift.
I like the cost but I would still spring for the full kit by fein with variable speed, no tool change ability,sanding pads,rasp and contour sander profiles.
ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
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I also think HF blades suck. Does anyone knoe if the Bosch blades will fit the HF?
I have used the HF and the Fein. I still can't justify the price difference, if we can get decent blades for the HF.
I just now tried, and yup, the Bosch fit the HF.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I guess I will have to try their blades.
That's it, Duane, I think you now have the title for the most MM tools!!!!
You oughtta see me angle grinder stable, I hate changing attachments.I think I have 7 now. One DW corded is just for my welding box, 3-4 Corded HFs,just for wood cleanup ( Log house remember?) and my cordless with Diamond mostly just for cutting counterflashings in.I quit counting drills/impacts and routers.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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He who dies with the most tools wins!
I better take some money and catch up. Wonder how my wife will take it when I tell her?
Bet ya don't have a lightkeeper pro. :)Russell
I got a collection of HF blades the last time I was there. The 1" wide flush cut blade is great, as is the carbide grit grout/thinset blade. I had to rip a bit off the bottom course of some already installed Hardi lap siding The circular diamond blade works, slowly, but it works, and without a lot of airborn dust.http://www.tvwsolar.com
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Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
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Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
The problem here with HF is the blades are kept off the shelf somewhere in the back. If you ask someone for something, it's like the land of no return, they never come back.I only used the round one that came with it, not the straight one yet. Seems to me the carbide grit would do hardie as well as a diamond?And I don't even have a carbide grit, I steer away from tile when ever posssible, just not my forte.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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The closest HF to me has the blades in a cage near the front, and you would think there were tigers in it, the way the floor walkers avoid you when you want to get in<G>The carbide grit I tried was even slower than the diamond blade, and the HF multi tool couldn't cut it. I got it to save the Fein, but it only lasted 1 day, ha. It'll be an insurance policy test LOLhttp://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
the carbide grit grout/thinset blade.
If you sent it, I didn't get it.
If you didn't, don't fret it.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
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hey cal, I thought you wanted the diamond blade?... which I didn't send, either<G>I still haven't made it back over to re-supply... so, grout cleaning blade? diamond? both?I may get over there this week... or not.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Whatever you feel like at the moment. I didn't expect anything, nor remembered what the heck we were talking about anyway.
Hey, you in the gift exchange?A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
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Also, bear in mind, the HF only has 4 pins. The Dremel is loaded with a slew, seems that grinding 3 of the HF pins off would allow ANY blade with pin holes to work. AFAIK, the 10MM center hole remains the same, with the exception of the Star blades by Fein.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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They just went on sale.http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=67256&?utm_source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4809B&r=6909_539584
You're an enabler...I'm on my way.
BTW you gota print that out for the store to honor it.
I'll see what they'll let out of the cage.
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Wait there's more.
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